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Thirteen little galaxies all in a row: Configuration deviates from the expected...
Vancouver Sun ^ | 1/6/13 | Randy Shore

Posted on 01/06/2013 8:06:50 PM PST by LibWhacker


A string of 13 dwarf galaxies are in orbit around the galaxy Andromeda. The galaxies are spread across a flat plane more than one million light years wide and 30,000 light years thick, moving in synchonicity with each other. The phenomenon is unlike behaviour of other observed galaxies and suggests a hole in our knowledge of galaxy formation.

A string of 13 dwarf galaxies in orbit around the massive galaxy Andromeda are not behaving as they should.

The galaxies are spread across a flat plane more than one million light years wide and only 30,000 light years thick, moving in synchronicity with one another, according to University of Victoria astronomer Julio Navarro, one of the co-authors of an article on the phenomenon in the latest edition of the journal Nature.

The view from Earth is of the thin edge of the plane, so the galaxies all appear to be moving in a line, Navarro said. Their behaviour is so different from the usual chaotic orbits of galaxies around each other that the researchers believe they have revealed a huge hole in science’s understanding of galaxy formation.

“It’s a very unusual, unexpected configuration,” Navarro said. “It suggests our thinking about how galaxies form is totally wrong.”

Computer models suggest that galaxies — collections of stars formed from dust and gas spread across the vastness of space — should orbit independently, almost randomly.

“[Galaxies] are like bees in a beehive,” he said. “We had thought that galaxies collect stars one by one from different directions and different orbits.”

But the structure of the synchronous galaxies orbiting Andromeda is much more like a mature solar system.

In solar systems, planets are created from debris and come to move in a plane-like formation over the course of hundreds of millions of orbits around a star. The same process led to the rings of rubble around Saturn.

But the dwarf galaxies of Andromeda are spread across a distance so vast that they haven’t completed a single orbit.

“Somehow they have a plane-like structure similar to a solar system, but with a completely different origin and we don’t know what that origin is,” Navarro said.

Twelve of the 13 dwarf galaxies — they range in size from 10 million to 100 million stars — are on one side of the orbital plane, as if they are held by a string being swung from Andromeda.

“This looks like they are all moving together and they all know where to go, like some pre-existing structure has been sucked in by Andromeda,” he said.


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: andromeda; catastrophism; dwarf; galaxies; galaxy; haltonarp; row; stringtheory; xplanets
Full title: Thirteen little galaxies all in a row: Configuration deviates from the expected chaotic behaviour of such celestial bodies
1 posted on 01/06/2013 8:06:53 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

“...like some pre-existing structure has been sucked in by Andromeda...”

Um, I don’t know why or how but I recognize the importance of that statement. I think that is how they came to be aligned with the larger galaxy.

Don’t ask me how I know; call it ‘intuition’.


2 posted on 01/06/2013 8:14:02 PM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping to your excellency: an Astronomical mystery.


3 posted on 01/06/2013 8:15:43 PM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: LibWhacker

In an infinite chaotic Universe, everything, even the most improbable, has happened.


4 posted on 01/06/2013 8:15:49 PM PST by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: brytlea; cripplecreek; decimon; bigheadfred; KoRn; Grammy; married21; steelyourfaith; Mmogamer; ...

Thanks LibWhacker. Looks like a four-list ping topic!


5 posted on 01/06/2013 8:19:23 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: KevinDavis; annie laurie; Knitting A Conundrum; Viking2002; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Mmogamer; ...

Thanks LibWhacker.
 
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6 posted on 01/06/2013 8:20:17 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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Thanks LibWhacker.

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7 posted on 01/06/2013 8:20:17 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: 75thOVI; agrace; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; aristotleman; Avoiding_Sulla; ...

Thanks LibWhacker.


8 posted on 01/06/2013 8:20:17 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: SatinDoll

Whoops, thanks SatinDoll for the ping.


9 posted on 01/06/2013 8:20:50 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: LibWhacker

A type 3 civilization?


10 posted on 01/06/2013 9:07:18 PM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: SatinDoll

Ross Perot and his “giant sucking sound”?


11 posted on 01/06/2013 9:25:55 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: LibWhacker

[ A string of 13 dwarf galaxies in orbit around the massive galaxy Andromeda are not behaving as they should. ]

WRONG.. they are behaving exactly as they should..

Science fiction must seem logical else whats the point..
Reality need not be logical at all to humans.. nothing to prove..


12 posted on 01/06/2013 9:38:58 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

The NAFTA agreement was stronger than even Perot thought it was.


13 posted on 01/06/2013 9:56:20 PM PST by Terry Mross ( I post so people who hate me will know what I think. And they can't seem to stop reading. LOL)
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To: SatinDoll

14 posted on 01/06/2013 10:48:17 PM PST by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: SunkenCiv

That is hysterical! Where is it from?


15 posted on 01/07/2013 12:58:34 AM PST by Yehuda
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To: LibWhacker

What do they spell out when viewed from “above” their elliptical plane?


16 posted on 01/07/2013 1:20:07 AM PST by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years. RSC)
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To: LibWhacker
Somehow they have a plane-like structure similar to a solar system, but with a completely different origin...

They don't really know that the origin is completely different from the origins of a solar system, because they don't really know how solar systems were formed any more than they know how galaxies were formed.

17 posted on 01/07/2013 4:02:16 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: LibWhacker

Those two arrow-shaped nebula are amazing!


18 posted on 01/07/2013 4:07:10 AM PST by Moltke ("I am Dr. Sonderborg," he said, "and I don't want any nonsense.")
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To: KC Burke

“Andromeda Galaxy; Closed For Renovations”


19 posted on 01/07/2013 4:08:08 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: Moltke
Those two arrow-shaped nebula are amazing!

Intellegent design? :-)

20 posted on 01/07/2013 6:28:32 AM PST by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: Moltke

Hmmm, while I can’t quite figure out what’s going on in that picture, I thought “what in the world is Moltke talking about?” And then... LOL!


21 posted on 01/07/2013 8:43:26 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: SunkenCiv

“It suggests our thinking about how galaxies form is totally wrong.”

But if you had questioned their thinking yesterday they would have called you a Luddite.


22 posted on 01/07/2013 8:47:54 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: LibWhacker

More evidence, as if any were necessary, why to never take “scientific” theories too seriously.


23 posted on 01/07/2013 8:49:58 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: LibWhacker

:-)

But that part in title...’all in a row’...sort of redefines what I’ve so far understood a ‘row’ to be. (They could’ve called it a ‘hockey stick’...and claimed it’s ‘our fault’. Science sure has changed since I graduated.)


24 posted on 01/07/2013 9:58:22 AM PST by Moltke ("I am Dr. Sonderborg," he said, "and I don't want any nonsense.")
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To: BenLurkin

As much as I love science and the scientific method, that DID make me chuckle, thanks!


25 posted on 01/07/2013 10:12:22 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Moltke

Exactly! Veeeeery confusing.


26 posted on 01/07/2013 10:16:54 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: KC Burke

“Be Sure To Drink Your Ovaltine”


27 posted on 01/07/2013 10:19:38 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: BenLurkin

No, that’s the proper role of those with the notion that knowledge is immutable.


28 posted on 01/07/2013 6:36:08 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Yehuda

I can’t remember where or how I found it, I only know that I coveted it and stole it. I think it was an actual sign on the entrance door of a restaurant that had closed so the owners could take their summer trip back to the old country. :’)


29 posted on 01/07/2013 7:03:10 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe; BenLurkin

/bingo


30 posted on 01/07/2013 7:04:58 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: SunkenCiv

( : >)


31 posted on 01/08/2013 7:50:51 AM PST by Yehuda
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To: UCANSEE2
In an infinite chaotic Universe, everything, even the most improbable, has happened.

I think you just invented the Infinite Improbability Drive...

32 posted on 01/08/2013 3:54:38 PM PST by GreenLanternCorps
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To: GreenLanternCorps
I think you just invented the Infinite Improbability Drive...

Well then... have the government send me a big ole' check.

My guess is, that even though this is an infinite chaotic Universe, that is the ONE THING that will never happen.

Did I just uninvent the Infinite Improbability Drive ?

33 posted on 01/09/2013 12:09:34 PM PST by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: KC Burke
What do they spell out when viewed from “above” their elliptical plane?


34 posted on 01/09/2013 12:14:46 PM PST by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: UCANSEE2
A string of 13 dwarf galaxies in orbit around the massive galaxy Andromeda are not behaving as they should.

A string of 13 dwarf galaxies in orbit around the massive galaxy Andromeda are not behaving as we think they should.

35 posted on 01/09/2013 12:26:47 PM PST by Sawdring
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To: Sawdring

While I completely agree, and appreciate your response, I don’t see why you responded to me.

(maybe this is the reason) Pretty much every thing we ‘think’ about the Universe around us has been proven wrong. We still have plenty we are wrong about, we just haven’t ‘discovered’ it yet.


36 posted on 01/09/2013 1:01:47 PM PST by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: LibWhacker

Puppeteers figured out how to move galaxies.


37 posted on 01/09/2013 1:14:25 PM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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