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Amid sanctions, Penn State's seniors salvaged season
Pittsburgh Tribune-Review ^ | 1-5-13 | Scott Brown

Posted on 01/06/2013 12:11:16 PM PST by FlJoePa

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To: FlJoePa
The ESPN story is a nice summation of the Freeh Report.

Have it your way...poor Penn State. Any sympathy for the kids who were assaulted on campus and off - for years? Or do you think they are just in on the plot to destroy the football team?

Happy Valley is a cult compound.
21 posted on 01/06/2013 2:46:16 PM PST by No Left Turn
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To: ontap

louis freeh is a known, proven liar. It’s funny how he’s now a superstar in the eyes of some “conservatives” on this forum.

He could tell me it’s raining outside and I’d have to stick my head out a window to believe him.

But if he’s your guy - he’s your guy. I’ll just say this. Stop quoting him and start providing EVIDENCE. He certainly didn’t provide any in that fraudulent report.


22 posted on 01/06/2013 2:48:56 PM PST by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa
He just doesn’t like lying media and the jackals who lap up their slobber.

What about a report by an FBI Director? The facts are what they are.
If someone came up to you and said I just saw your good friend naked in the shower sexually assaulting a young boy, would you sit back do nothing and later say "I was afraid to do something that jeopordized univeristy procedure," as JoePa did?

There's no excuse for it or for everything else that happened related to Sandusky. Get a grip.
23 posted on 01/06/2013 3:02:23 PM PST by No Left Turn
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To: No Left Turn

Well obviously you don’t believe those horrible eye witness accounts, you just give the guy who said he saw it a job for ten years, let your buddy who he accused retire, then watch him parade boy after boy around your facilities for the next decade!


24 posted on 01/06/2013 3:08:21 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: No Left Turn

See, this is why this discourse is so important. I had no idea MM told Joe Paterno that js was sexually assaulting a young boy in the shower. This is another case-breaking seminal moment that you and Stephen A Smith have apparently uncovered. You’re in such good company.

Have you read MM’s testimony - what has been made public? I have. Do you have access to quotes from MM that I don’t? You must to come to that conclusion.

Penn Staters want the truth. If you have information that can help the AG’s office prosecute Spanier, Schultz, and Curley, I suggest you step up now and offer your help.

As for js being Joe’s “good friend”, well “good try”. Just another myth that you’ve apparently bought into.


25 posted on 01/06/2013 3:13:39 PM PST by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: No Left Turn
Stop quoting him and start providing EVIDENCE. He certainly didn’t provide any in that fraudulent report.

Ok. But I thought you didn't see anything that incriminated PSU leadership in the report that you read 6 times. Now it's just that the report is fraudulent. Ok.

Do you think there were any children sexually assaulted on PSU's campus, or is that a scurrilous lie, as well?

Here's a compromise. Why don't you just enjoy your football team and stop referring to the PSU community as "victims." It is particuarly insulting to those who truly were victims of a paid member of the PSU staff. You contribute to the sense that PSU is still more concerned about football than about children abused on its campus.
26 posted on 01/06/2013 3:14:18 PM PST by No Left Turn
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To: No Left Turn

The report is what it is. There’s nothing in it. The summary and subsequent news conference is completely fraudulant. It’s nothing short of fiction - Harlequin Romance type fiction.

As for Penn Staters being victims, well...sorry, but it’s the truth. No one has done MORE for victims of sexual abuse since 11/11 than Penn Staters. They’ve donated more money, more time, and more resources than anyone. For that, they get treated (in some instances) as if they themselves molested children. At the very best, they’re labeled “cult members” (your schtick) when all they really want is the truth.

Watch and learn what happens in the coming months. Depending on the “standing” ruling in Corbett’s lawsuit against the ncaa, you could be looking at the end of that organization as we know it.


27 posted on 01/06/2013 3:27:21 PM PST by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: No Left Turn

js was not a member of the football staff after 1999.

He was allowed access to the campus by the academic side due to his tenure.

I am guessing that his forays into the sports facilities were made only when JoePa was not there.

Oh look, I just made a Freeh report.


28 posted on 01/06/2013 3:31:57 PM PST by Delta Dawn (The whole truth.)
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To: allmendream
Who is the liar? Joe Paterno or Louis Freeh?
29 posted on 01/06/2013 3:51:39 PM PST by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa
Depending on the “standing” ruling in Corbett’s lawsuit against the ncaa, you could be looking at the end of that organization as we know it.

Ha. Ok. The Gov. who wants support from PSU alumni for his tough relection, the guy who initially told PSU to accept the sanctions, and the guy who took three years to bring Sandusky to trial will take down the NCAA over the "poor treatment" of an innocent PSU. I'll keep my eyes peeled for the ruling.

Bottom line: PSU officials at the highest level covered up child sex abuse. It will never be any other way.

Pray for the victims, not for the end of NCAA sanctions.
30 posted on 01/06/2013 3:55:45 PM PST by No Left Turn
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To: Delta Dawn
js was not a member of the football staff after 1999. He was allowed access to the campus by the academic side due to his tenure.

Here's something you can investigate: Why was JS still allowed on campus after 1999, when he was suspected of doing bad things to boys. You guys are strange - why would you defend the actions of these people - because you like the football team?
31 posted on 01/06/2013 3:59:38 PM PST by No Left Turn
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To: No Left Turn
"PSU officials at the highest level covered up child sex abuse. It will never be any other way."

I can just as easily say that you beat your wife. I have just as much proof. But you think what you want.

32 posted on 01/06/2013 4:00:19 PM PST by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa
I can just as easily say that you beat your wife. I have just as much proof. But you think what you want.

Right. Because the FBI Director is crooked and has it in for PSU. PSU offiials were framed. Ok.

You didn't answer my question: Do you think children were sexually assaulted by Jerry Sandusky on PSU's campus?
33 posted on 01/06/2013 4:05:11 PM PST by No Left Turn
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The 1998 incident went to the county child protective services folks and the police. It was determined at that time there was not enough evidence to pursue a prosecution of Sandusky.

What did Paterno do? He fired Sandusky.

He had no day-to-day contact with js after that and was not a party to js having access to the campus after that.

Now if you have evidence of Paterno driving the busload of young boys to Sandusky’s to be molested, please come forward with that evidence.

js was the perp who was rightly convicted of this crime. He probably should have gotten the death penalty for what he did.


34 posted on 01/06/2013 4:13:16 PM PST by Delta Dawn (The whole truth.)
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To: FlJoePa

Anyone still believing what ESPN says on the PSU matter is a fool. ESPN covered up the child molestation at Syracuse...and has spending all hoops season cheerleading Jim Boeheim....who knew firsthand that his buddy Bernie Fine was molesting boys.


35 posted on 01/06/2013 4:20:48 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Fiscal Conservatives are Neither)
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Anyone still believing what ESPN says on the PSU matter is a fool. ESPN covered up the child molestation at Syracuse...and has spending all hoops season cheerleading Jim Boeheim....who knew firsthand that his buddy Bernie Fine was molesting boys.

The ESPN report on PSU was a recap of the Freeh report, fool. It has nothing to do with Cuse coverage.
36 posted on 01/06/2013 4:27:35 PM PST by No Left Turn
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To: FlJoePa

Paterno was scum and created a corrupt culture where any atrocity would be ignored or excused for decades. Scum. Victory with no honor. Decades of observing a known pedophile taking boys on away games to banquets to games and to the shower. Have you no shame?


37 posted on 01/06/2013 4:28:11 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: FlJoePa
“You can stand with louis freeh. I’ll stand with Joe Paterno. I know which one is honorable.”

I can't say it better than that. Let me just add a little. With so many decades of preaching and teaching the meaning of honor, Joe Paterno was one of two things: a bald faced liar that lived a lie his entire life or slandered. Paterno was not Sandusky, who will surely go to hell.

38 posted on 01/06/2013 4:28:43 PM PST by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: Delta Dawn; No Left Turn
What did Paterno do? He fired Sandusky.

When the ugly matter first came to light, PSU apologists were quick to point out that Sandusky retired, because to say Paterno fired Sandusky was to say Paterno had knowledge of Sandusky's nature in 1998 or 1999.

Remember that Sandusky announced his retirement on July 1, 1999, effective the end of the season. Sandusky coached the entire 1999 season, including the Alamo Bowl.

If Paterno 'fired' Sandusky, then he gave Sandusky the entire 1999 season in which to continue to bring Victim #4 to pre-game banquets and sleepovers at Toftree's, all the while knowing Sandusky was a pedophile.

39 posted on 01/06/2013 4:33:52 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Delta Dawn
The 1998 incident went to the county child protective services folks and the police. It was determined at that time there was not enough evidence to pursue a prosecution of Sandusky. What did Paterno do? He fired Sandusky. He had no day-to-day contact with js after that and was not a party to js having access to the campus after that.

Paterno allowed his buddy to retire. He didn't fire him. That is pretty bad on its own. Despite child sex assault allegations, JS was still allowed on campus, because Paterno allowed him to retire with standing, rather than fire him which would have barred his access to campus facilities. JS used his access to lure children. Nice.

And I'm sure JoePa had no idea JS was using his facilities or saw him there in 10+ years.
40 posted on 01/06/2013 4:38:33 PM PST by No Left Turn
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