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WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD VOLUME 51 DECEMBER 28,2012
Free Republic | 12/28/2012 | greeneyes

Posted on 12/28/2012 10:52:10 AM PST by greeneyes

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks. No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread ... there is no telling where it will go and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us!

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Greetings from Missouri. It is a crisp 35 degrees on the way to a low of 22 degrees today. The mailman and the weather brought a present the day after Christmas.

Several garden catalogs came in the mail, and enough snow fell to cover everything. Most of the snow has already melted, and the catalogs are keeping me busy. Hubby has already underlined enough plants for about 10 times larger space, so culling will be needed no doubt.

Hope everyone had a great Christmas. Have a good weekend and a Happy New Year. God Bless.

1 posted on 12/28/2012 10:52:25 AM PST by greeneyes
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To: greeneyes

Happy New Year, Gardeners!


2 posted on 12/28/2012 10:54:34 AM PST by left that other site (Worry is the Darkroom that Develops Negatives.)
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To: greeneyes

Woo hoo! I got vegetable seeds in my stocking, and I walked past the marked-down Christmas decorations at Lowes - right to the unopened boxes of seeds they are getting ready to put out. I’m looking out the window at 6 or 7 inches of snow. Can’t wait until spring!


3 posted on 12/28/2012 10:57:53 AM PST by sneakers (Go Sheriff Joe!)
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To: greeneyes

IBTP!


4 posted on 12/28/2012 11:00:26 AM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: greeneyes; Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler; SunkenCiv; HungarianGypsy; Gabz; ...

Pinging the Gardening List.

Here is the link to wintersown. They describe a method to get your garden going now. They also have some free seeds as well as additional seeds for a $5.00 donation.

http://www.wintersown.org/

Also, in case you missed it. Working Class Filth posted a great list of a lot of resources on last week’s thread.


5 posted on 12/28/2012 11:01:42 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Catalogs in the mail. Haven’t had much of a chance to peruse yet.


6 posted on 12/28/2012 11:01:49 AM PST by TASMANIANRED (Viva Christo Rey)
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To: greeneyes; Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler; SunkenCiv; HungarianGypsy; Gabz; ...

Pinging the Gardening List.

Here is the link to wintersown. They describe a method to get your garden going now. They also have some free seeds as well as additional seeds for a $5.00 donation.

http://www.wintersown.org/

Also, in case you missed it. Working Class Filth posted a great list of a lot of resources on last week’s thread.


7 posted on 12/28/2012 11:02:37 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread

Everything is impossible until somebody does it.......Robert Heinlein..............

8 posted on 12/28/2012 11:04:25 AM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: greeneyes
Catalogs? Meh.

If you're looking for seeds, here's a link to even more links.

9 posted on 12/28/2012 11:09:50 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: greeneyes

We’re suppose to get snow tomorrow. So, I set out all my gardening catalogs to look through. Not sure why but that is what I do when it snows... the streets can fill up with the soft, white fluffy stuff but I’m looking at all those glorious seeds. The only problem is I need a yard uh... well, let’s just say I need a farm. I want this, I want that, oh I’d love this and that.... my snow tradition.


10 posted on 12/28/2012 11:12:33 AM PST by momtothree
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To: greeneyes
Thanks for the thread. I will read through last weeks to make sure I don't ask any questions that might have already been asked;)

11 posted on 12/28/2012 11:14:04 AM PST by imjustme
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To: greeneyes

Please add me to your ping list.

Thanks. Happy New Year!


12 posted on 12/28/2012 11:14:47 AM PST by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: greeneyes

Greenhouse nearly done! Will be starting seeds tomorrow or Sat! Happy New Year everybody!


13 posted on 12/28/2012 11:24:51 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: sneakers

Can’t wait until spring!

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I know the feeling. Check out the winter sown link. If you have a few milk jugs, it can help with that feeling and get you a head start for Spring. LOL.


14 posted on 12/28/2012 11:28:40 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Hoodat

IBTP!

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Does that mean “I Blame The Plants”????????????


15 posted on 12/28/2012 11:29:54 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Red Badger

Everything is impossible until somebody does it.......Robert Heinlein..............

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LOL. Ain’t it the truth? I am just copying what Red Devil had every week on his thread. However when Rita hit the thread a couple of weeks ago, I did think that maybe I should alter that to nearly impossible, and almost never flamed.


16 posted on 12/28/2012 11:33:58 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: who knows what evil?

Thanks for the links.


17 posted on 12/28/2012 11:34:33 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: momtothree

Do you have a patio, or a south or west facing window?


18 posted on 12/28/2012 11:35:33 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: imjustme

It’s ok by me, if you ask the same questions. I have part timers. Part of the time I remember and part of the time I don’t. LOL.

However, do read the thread as they are usually a very relaxing and sometimes funny thread to read.


19 posted on 12/28/2012 11:38:04 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: txnativegop

You have been added.


20 posted on 12/28/2012 11:38:38 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

2-3 weeks ago we had the first freeze so harvested all the tomatoes. As they ripen, into the freezer they go but had some green ones that were starting to look sad before they ripened so tried out a Green Tomato Pie for Christmas. The recipe needs some tweaking but everyone said it worked so the idea is a keeper. I’m thinking maybe a handful of raisins or a bit more spice would do the trick. It’s similar to tomato preserves and mince meat.

Green Tomato Pie - 3 cups green tomatoes, 1 1/2 C sugar, 1 T cider vinegar, all spice, cinnamon, salt and a pie shell.

Needing to get the new tomato and pepper seeds started today!


21 posted on 12/28/2012 11:40:29 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: CynicalBear

GREEN HOUSE! I am so very envious.


22 posted on 12/28/2012 11:40:57 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Thanks again!

Happy New Year!


23 posted on 12/28/2012 11:42:26 AM PST by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: greeneyes; All

Winter has arrived!!

24 posted on 12/28/2012 11:48:18 AM PST by MissMagnolia
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To: bgill

The pie sounds good. It’s a little early for starting plants indoors here. However, I do think I might use some milk jugs to get started on the winter sown for some of the seeds.


25 posted on 12/28/2012 11:49:28 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

The patio is in the back and very shaded. However, our house faces due South. Are you thinking some plants in the windows?!


26 posted on 12/28/2012 11:50:20 AM PST by momtothree
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To: txnativegop

You are welcome. Have a great holiday.


27 posted on 12/28/2012 12:07:35 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

NEWBIE ALERT! I live in the Houston area of Texas and was wondering if it’s too early to start vegetable seeds now or is it too late. I can always get plants at Home Depot or a nursery if it’s too late. I figure to put a raised bed in the back yard and start planting the beginning of February. We should not have much threat of frost by then. Also, any tips on soil. Should we till the ground and then add the good soil? Does anyone have an opinion on the ready made raised garden kits. Any other tips or advise would be appreciated. And please add me to the ping list. Thanks, all.


28 posted on 12/28/2012 12:07:57 PM PST by texaschick
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To: MissMagnolia

Thanks for the awesome pictures. However, they do make my feet cold just looking at them. LOL.


29 posted on 12/28/2012 12:09:13 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Meant I was starting them indoors.

Outdoors, winter has finally hit Texas. No more 80 degree weather for a week or two.... maybe. Still no sign of rain. As if we weren’t already in a two year drought but November 2012 was the driest since 1897. The Highland Lakes’ levels are down 42% (but up from where they were this summer) and yet the legislature decided to continue sending water down to the rice farms in south Texas. Excuse me, but how about planting a crop that will grow without stealing other people’s water? The “little people” upstream are being forced to close their businesses because they don’t have big lobbyists. Stepping off my soapbox now.


30 posted on 12/28/2012 12:43:41 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: texaschick

You have been added. I am not all that familiar with Texas, but we do have several gardeners from Texas that check in from time to time.

The extension service of public universities almost always has tips online which will be a good resource too. Also, I think that some things vary by location. East Texas vs Central or Southern Texas etc.

If you know the anticipated date of the last average frost date, you can count back about 6 weeks to get the approximate date of when to plant your seeds indoors for the summer season. I have read that every month there is a potential for growing things in Texas.

Also, the spring and fall are somewhat abbreviated, and the summers have been unusually dry (maybe an understatement). Try to catch any rainwater you may be lucky enough to get between now and then. Also, some people have stated that they use their “graywater” for the garden.

As to the raised beds. That is a method that I use. If you google Square Foot Gardening, there is a website that has all kinds of tips to get you started on this.

I think that the prefab garden stuff is pretty, but costly. Hubby built my beds using landscaping materials he bought pretty cheap from Walmart. If I was starting over, I would probably use some conrete blocks and rocks to build on the North, East and West sides with the front facing south.

The rocks will absorb the heat during the day and release it at night, and we have a bunch of rocks that we have collected as we have prepared various beds. Of course, we have colder weather in winter than Texas.

Texas winter crops that do pretty well are: Beets,onions, radishes, lettuce, and asparagus to name a few at least that is what I have read about it.

Good Luck with you endeavors. I think your biggest challenge will be the drought.


31 posted on 12/28/2012 12:47:52 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: momtothree

The patio is in the back and very shaded. However, our house faces due South. Are you thinking some plants in the windows?!

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Absolutely. I have a southwest facing patio door that is producing a lot of stuff even in the winter. Right now I have a lemon tree that has yielded 6 lemons, and has about 15 marble sized new lemons started as well as a bunch of blossoms which smell great.

I have two pepper plant with 9 sweet bells growing, and some lettuce and spinach sprouting, and some basil. Last year I also grew cherry tomatoes. Some plants will require longer days in the winter, and for those you can use a high intensity grow light for a couple of hours after the sun goes down in the winter.

I am considering adding a garden window over my kitchen sink which faces the same direction. They make windows that can be installed in an existing window, and it is sort of like a mini greenhouse, and would be so convenient at the sink for growing herbs that I use cooking.

Lucky you to have window(s) facing south.


32 posted on 12/28/2012 12:58:31 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

I’ve ordered for the first round, finished up today, and have received about 1/2 with only one backorder so far.


33 posted on 12/28/2012 1:19:04 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! [You can vote Democrat when you're dead]...)
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To: greeneyes

Down to -6 last night, after getting 6” over the last few days. High of 26 today.
Cat is going stir-crazy, but we don’t need a vet bill for frost bitten feet.
The birds are all over the feeders, and they don’t need a cat harassing them, either.
Have a cottontail that is visiting the porch every night, probably because the front door is “warm”. Today, when I came back to the house from feeding the rabbits & chickens (6 eggs from 11 hens!) I brought down a large handful of hay, and a scoop of rabbit pellets for it.

At least with the snow, the garden is now properly mulched until Spring.


34 posted on 12/28/2012 1:42:18 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: greeneyes

I’ve received only one so far. I’m thinking of planting some carrot seeds in one of my molasses pots. I don’t know what else at this moment. I will be putting some of my bulbs in the ground around the garden shed and maybe some of my shasta seeds and some others. It’s in the 30s at night, but heck, next week it may be up to the 70s during the days and down to the 50s at night. One day it’s autumn and the next day it could be summer or winter. Texas! I do have some tomatoe seeds in some styrofoam coolers. See if they do anything. They’re in the garage.


35 posted on 12/28/2012 1:59:07 PM PST by tillacum
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To: MissMagnolia
It certainly has!


36 posted on 12/28/2012 2:04:05 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: greeneyes; All
This is winter in Massachusetts:


37 posted on 12/28/2012 2:09:54 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: greeneyes; Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler; SunkenCiv; HungarianGypsy; Gabz; ...

I am interested in Lingenberries. I looked them up and found that they grow in Sweden, Norway, Canada, and the State of Washington. Does anybody here have any experience with them for the home gardener? If planted (instead of boxwood) would you ever get a crop, or would they become deer magnets?


38 posted on 12/28/2012 2:12:09 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: imjustme

We love questions that get asked twice. It’s helpful for those of us who have faulty memories to read the answers a second time! :)


39 posted on 12/28/2012 2:14:46 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: imjustme

We love questions that get asked twice. It’s helpful for those of us who have faulty memories to read the answers a second time! :)


40 posted on 12/28/2012 2:14:55 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: trisham

Isn’t that pretty! I love your screen house.


41 posted on 12/28/2012 2:21:35 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: MissMagnolia

Gorgeous photos! What part of VA?


42 posted on 12/28/2012 2:22:50 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: trisham

I’ve been in Texas over 20 years and still miss the snow. Today is nice and cooool, about 47 degrees with a bit of wind. NICE! I’m ready to order some seeds, and ready to plant. I’ve found some styrofoam containters on the road. I’ve picked them up, washed them out, put holes in the bottoms, put holes in the tops then glued the tops to the bottom, for more insulation?, can’t waste the tops. So far I’ve found 4. I’ve begun getting my raised gardens ready for early, early spring planting. I’ve found some bulbs in one, that I’d forgetten..will put them next to the garden shed.


43 posted on 12/28/2012 2:23:09 PM PST by tillacum
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Thank you! It was 24 degrees here this morning, which is not terribly cold.


44 posted on 12/28/2012 2:27:41 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: texaschick

What kind of soil do you have already? When I lived in the SW area of Houston, we had a lot of gumbo. We had to mix sand in it to “lighten” it for anything to grow. It’s been years and years, but I remember having loads of sand delivered just to get a good foundation for the grass. And more sand mixed into the flower beds. And peat moss. And vermiculite.

The other soil around there that I remember is kaliche, but I didn’t have that, so I don’t know how to handle it. Link up with a garden club, and they will help you.

You can build a raised bed right on your ground and fill it and go from there. THe roots will eventually mix your additions with what’s underneath. You can make it go faster by turning what’s underneath first and then building the bed on top.


45 posted on 12/28/2012 2:31:46 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: tillacum
You are amazingly resourceful-I have saved many of the containers from plants that we have bought, and use them to start seeds. They don't really take up much space, and most are fairly high-quality plastic, but you've got me beat.

We have some daffodils coming up in a pot that I left on a table on the deck all summer and fall. I have them in a south facing window, and they look terrific, although they are yet to form flowers. We have months before we can start seeds. I have a bunch of years old leftover packets, and I'd like to give them a try. It may be interesting to see how well they do.

46 posted on 12/28/2012 2:35:38 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: tillacum
You are amazingly resourceful-I have saved many of the containers from plants that we have bought, and use them to start seeds. They don't really take up much space, and most are fairly high-quality plastic, but you've got me beat.

We have some daffodils coming up in a pot that I left on a table on the deck all summer and fall. I have them in a south facing window, and they look terrific, although they are yet to form flowers. We have months before we can start seeds. I have a bunch of years old leftover packets, and I'd like to give them a try. It may be interesting to see how well they do.

47 posted on 12/28/2012 2:36:39 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Blue Ridge Mountains .... this was taken at Afton where I-64 crosses.


48 posted on 12/28/2012 2:39:25 PM PST by MissMagnolia
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To: MissMagnolia

It’s obvious why they call them “Blue Ridge”. Gorgeous.

I have a daughter, SIL, and grandchildren living in Glen Allen. My ancestors settled in Jamestowne (1st or 2nd Supply) in 1608 and then later in Charlotte Court House before they moved west after the Revolution. Otherwise, I know nothing of VA, except for the touristy stuff. Beautiful State.


49 posted on 12/28/2012 2:55:03 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: greeneyes

Thank you for the ping, greeneyes.

That’s a wonderful link! I think I’m going to try that.
We’ve had 2 1/2 feet of snow over the last ten days, but it’s to be expected in Ontario at the end of Dec.

Happy New Year!


50 posted on 12/28/2012 3:42:42 PM PST by fanfan ("If Muslim kids were asked to go to church on Sunday and take Holy Communion there would be war.")
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