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Yes, we the people demand a gun control bill (Vanity)

Posted on 12/17/2012 1:12:34 PM PST by afret68

Yes, the American people demand that congress submit and approve together with senate approval and presidential signature the following:

No elected politician nor appointed administrator, have any security protection involving a gun of any description


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1 posted on 12/17/2012 1:12:41 PM PST by afret68
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2 posted on 12/17/2012 1:14:28 PM PST by MtnMan101
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First, there are already more than 20,000 gun control laws actively on the books today and none of them prevented this tragedy. Second, millions upon million of people in America own guns and 99.9999% of them have never and will never do anything like this.

So, let’s lose the hysteria and analyze the facts - a PERSON did this, NOT a hunk of steel. In Portland, a PERSON killed two people in the mall, NOT a hunk of steel! In Denver, a PERSON shot up the theater, NOT a hunk of steel!!

NONE of these facts will matter to the gun-grabbing nanny-staters, because they focus solely on the gun and nothing else. So, what happens if ALL guns are outlawed and forcibly collected by the feds? Someone bent on committing mass murder may turn to knives, hatchets, chainsaws or machetes. So, we outlaw those. The next person to commit a heinous crime may use a bat, poison, poison gas or a semi-tractor. And the one after that may use a car, a pen or pencil, a rock, his hands . . . . . . so when do we blame the PERSON and NOT the inanimate weapon!???

The fact remains that until the left understands that murdering humans by ANY means including their favorite method, abortion, human life will be valueless and more copycats will come out to exercise their demented mass murder of innocent people.

All of that said, it occurs to me that the gun-grabbers are from the leftist school of complete control. What that means is that if 1 person commits a gun crime then, under the leftist theory of the “collective” and “groupthink”, they believe that ALL gun owners will commit mass murder unless they eliminate guns (good luck with that!). So, the calls for more gun control by the left after these incidents is twofold - eliminate the “balance of power” the Founding Fathers so carefully wove into the Constitution and gain total control over the people.

Another part that affects all of this is the fact that laws, whether gun laws, robbery laws, or whatever, are written solely to affect law-abiding citizens. People who commit crimes are called “outlaws” and criminals because they DON’T adhere to the laws created to control or stop their illegal activities.

So, should the left create additional gun control laws, will it prevent the next gun-related crime? Of course not. Laws only affect those of us who obey them. Those who disregard the law won’t be stopped from committing whatever crime they want to commit.

As a final note, Adam Lanza did not own the guns he used to murder all of the people at Sandy Hook Elementary. They were his mother’s guns and they were all legally purchased and registered. Which begs the question, what will any NEW gun control laws accomplish?


3 posted on 12/17/2012 1:18:22 PM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for anti-American criminals!!)
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No armed body guards for the hollywierds.


4 posted on 12/17/2012 1:21:39 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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There are a lot of guns in this country. Good luck trying to find them and confiscate them. Sounds like an expensive task.


5 posted on 12/17/2012 1:24:12 PM PST by lurk
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We already have gun control at the federal level its called the Second Amendment.
6 posted on 12/17/2012 1:27:58 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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Excellent!


7 posted on 12/17/2012 1:32:53 PM PST by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt the Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: afret68
Unfortunately for those American people they can't really do that. They already voted for an end to the rule of law so making more laws is an exercise in futility.

...Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, ...

When elected officials and bureaucracies act outside the law they are simply lawbreakers. When the majority of the people vote in favor of total lawlessness in the highest offices they are withdrawning their consent to be governed by a constitutional government. By what legitimate basis does the United States of America, as a Constitutional republic, still exist?

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

'The People' no longer support that. They voted in support of lawlessness from the highest office on down. They voted against the rule of law. By referendum we now have a banana republic. The USAINO.

8 posted on 12/17/2012 1:37:00 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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Lets make it against the law to kill innocent people with guns....
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9 posted on 12/17/2012 1:46:52 PM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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Back in 1835, there was an attempt to kill Andrew Jackson. If I remember my history, the shooter was adjudged mentally incompetent and permanently locked up in an asylum.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Lawrence_%28failed_assassin%29

Today he would be medicated and put back on the streets. The government would then ban the guns he used.

Richard Lawrence was the shooter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Jackson

Lawrence told doctors later his reasons for the shooting. He blamed Jackson for the loss of his job. He claimed that with the President dead, “money would be more plenty” (a reference to Jackson’s struggle with the Bank of the United States) and that he “could not rise until the President fell.” Finally, he told his interrogators that he was a deposed English King—specifically, Richard III, dead since 1485—and that Jackson was his clerk. He was deemed insane and institutionalized.


10 posted on 12/17/2012 2:04:19 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Reopen the mental institutions! Damn the ACLU!)
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I could enthusiastically support such a bill if it was broadened to include everyone worth $5 million or more,everyone who's ever had any association with Hollywood or the news media and everyone who is in top leadership of any of this nation's labor unions.
11 posted on 12/17/2012 2:06:55 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (When Robbing Peter To Pay Paul,One Can Always Count On Paul's Cooperation)
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A general question, somewhat apropos: Has the number of FR threads regarding the Newtown massacre, including lame one or two sentence/passing thought vanities (which predominate) and duplicate threads, has that number reached 1,100 yet?


12 posted on 12/17/2012 2:10:08 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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I would add an Amendment.

The President and all members of Congress are subject to all laws citizens are subject to. Including Obamacare Social Security pensions,sexual harrassment, and their kids need to pay off their School loans.


13 posted on 12/17/2012 2:13:42 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Finally, he told his interrogators that he was a deposed English King—specifically, Richard III, dead since 1485—and that Jackson was his clerk. He was deemed insane and institutionalized.

They were so judgmental in those days. He just had a different POV. /s

14 posted on 12/17/2012 2:23:46 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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sounds reasonable


15 posted on 12/17/2012 2:27:50 PM PST by 1st Division guy
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add this.

When did any district attorney EVER charge the GUN, not the PERSON with shooting someone?

16 posted on 12/17/2012 2:29:01 PM PST by SwankyC
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To: MtnMan101

Gun Control isn’t about guns, it’s about control.


17 posted on 12/17/2012 3:40:23 PM PST by paulcissa (The first requirement of Liberalism is to stand on your head and tell the world they're upside down)
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But all of the gun crimes are committed by the sons of working class rabble.

Aurora Shooter’s Father Supposed to Testify in LIBOR ?
http://www.tfmetalsreport.com/forum/4052/aurora-shooters-father-supposed-testify-libor (TF Metals Report)

BREAKING NEWS: CT School Shooter Killer Link To LIBOR SCANDAL
http://newsworldwide.wordpress.com/2012/12/16/breaking-news-ct-school-shooter-killer-link-to-libor-scandal/

Libor scandal grows as the fathers of two mass murderers were to testify
http://www.examiner.com/article/libor-scandal-grows-as-the-fathers-of-two-mass-murderers-were-to-testify


18 posted on 12/17/2012 5:15:11 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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When did any district attorney EVER charge the GUN, not the PERSON with shooting someone?

Excellent point and I'll add one more - on 9/11/01, nearly 3,000 people were murdered in a terrorist attack. However, there have been NO demands to control aircraft or jet fuel.

Does this suggest selective outrage?

19 posted on 12/17/2012 6:13:58 PM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for anti-American criminals!!)
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