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Jenni Rivera plane nose-dived at 600 mph, Mexican official says
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| Tuesday, December 11, 2012
Posted on 12/12/2012 8:58:28 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin
Just guessing. . . Possible stroke/heart-attack given the age of the pilot, or as it has happened in the past, the pilot's O2 system malfunctions and he passes out (just guessing. . because that is what we do here). Regardless the cause, the pilot slumps over and his body pushes the yoke forward into a dive. The passengers in the back are NOT strapped in and float to the ceiling and never can get a hold of anything to pull themselves to the cockpit and take copntrol. . .or, they too, were passed out due to lack of O2 at altitude and never knew what hit them.
Just guessing (former fighter pilot and USAF mishap investigator, here).
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posted on
12/12/2012 10:30:55 AM PST
by
Hulka
To: DManA
Yes, they were frozen. Plane lost all pressure. Passengers likely passed out before freezing to death. Sad day for golf fans!
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posted on
12/12/2012 10:38:07 AM PST
by
poobear
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To: BenLurkin
To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
A Chrysler Town & Country...
Just say’in.
I hate to fly.
To: JoeFromCA
Unless it is due to a medical reason (stroke, heart attack, etc) or a loss of O2, you would not lose consciousness.
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posted on
12/12/2012 10:43:00 AM PST
by
Hulka
To: Responsibility2nd
600 mph is 880 feet per second. 28000 divided by 880 = 32 seconds.
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posted on
12/12/2012 10:43:26 AM PST
by
Procyon
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To: Hulka
My guess, cabin pressure issue, auto pilot off.
If the old captain vapor locked, the co pilot could take over. So doubt that.
28,000 ft is where things get real quick and dangerous in terms of altitude. Makes sense to me if the cabin didn’t pressurize, then that’s about where everybody would pass out. If auto pilot is on, plane keeps going till fuel runs out, like Payne Stewart. Auto pilot off, quickly out of control. BOOM!
(highly experienced pilot guess)
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posted on
12/12/2012 10:44:36 AM PST
by
PilotDave
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To: DManA
All had passed out due to loss of O2. . .the F-16 chase planes could only fly alongside and watch.
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posted on
12/12/2012 10:44:42 AM PST
by
Hulka
To: Eastbound
To: BenLurkin
28K feet? Loss of cabin pressure?
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posted on
12/12/2012 10:48:38 AM PST
by
Gamecock
( If we distort the gospel, that distortion will influence and affect everything else that we believe)
To: PilotDave
Good guess.
We great minds think alike. . .
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posted on
12/12/2012 10:49:22 AM PST
by
Hulka
To: Procyon
600 mph, 45 degrees?
To: Eastbound
If that’s a pic of this accident it is not as described. That plane went in most likely in a spin. Upright, spinning down like a playing card. Had it nose dived in from on high there would be very little recognizable as an airplane. Doesn’t change my guess. Loss of cabin pressure, (or cabin failed to pressurize) led to loss of consciousness due to lack of O2, led to loss of control.
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posted on
12/12/2012 10:57:40 AM PST
by
PilotDave
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To: Eastbound
More like 45 MPH and 6 degrees.
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posted on
12/12/2012 10:59:31 AM PST
by
ILS21R
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To: Responsibility2nd
2 minutes is a long time really.
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posted on
12/12/2012 11:45:02 AM PST
by
ColdOne
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To: PilotDave; Eastbound
That bird looks way too small to be the one in question, and way too self-contained to match the description of the crash.
We lost a medflight crew in our area in the past few days and there was a bigger debris field from a chopper that may have been going about 80mph and almost straight in.
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posted on
12/12/2012 11:53:38 AM PST
by
Mr. Silverback
(Cigarettes are like squirrels: Perfectly harmless until you put one in your mouth and set it on fire)
To: PilotDave; Eastbound
That bird looks way too small to be the one in question, and way too self-contained to match the description of the crash.
We lost a medflight crew in our area in the past few days and there was a bigger debris field from a chopper that may have been going about 80mph and almost straight in.
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posted on
12/12/2012 11:53:38 AM PST
by
Mr. Silverback
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To: BenLurkin
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posted on
12/12/2012 11:54:10 AM PST
by
reg45
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To: reg45
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posted on
12/12/2012 11:55:28 AM PST
by
Mr. Silverback
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To: reg45
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posted on
12/12/2012 11:57:22 AM PST
by
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