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Prehistoric rhino reveals secrets
BBC News ^ | 12-6-2012 | Matt Walker

Posted on 12/08/2012 2:19:44 PM PST by Renfield

The preserved body of a woolly rhinoceros has revealed new insights into how this now extinct giant animal once lived.

The woolly rhino was once one of the most abundant large mammals living in Eurasia, but only a handful of preserved carcasses have been found.

Now an analysis of a female woolly rhino found preserved in Siberia reveals that the animal was a herbivore that grazed mainly on cereals, and was similar in size to today's Javan rhino.

However, it was slow to reproduce, had a short stubby tail and ears, and was likely driven to extinction in part due to its inability to wade through deeper blankets of snow, which became more common as the climate changed, say scientists....

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History; Science
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; paleontology; pleistocene; rhinnos; rhino; rhinoceros; rhinos

1 posted on 12/08/2012 2:20:17 PM PST by Renfield
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To: Renfield

What secrets could John McCain have?


2 posted on 12/08/2012 2:21:02 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Renfield

“Grazed mainly on cereals” - Frosted Flakes?


3 posted on 12/08/2012 2:22:33 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Viennacon

I thought this was an Alan Simpson thread.


4 posted on 12/08/2012 2:22:56 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Renfield

“The animal was a herbivore” - ohhhh......they were gay.


5 posted on 12/08/2012 2:24:46 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Renfield

John McCain?


6 posted on 12/08/2012 2:24:57 PM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12)
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To: Renfield

George Romney?


7 posted on 12/08/2012 2:25:38 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Renfield
...due to its inability to wade through deeper blankets of snow, which became more common as the climate changed, say scientists.

Those dang velociraptors and their SUVs.

8 posted on 12/08/2012 2:27:15 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Don't tax me bro! Tax that guy over there!)
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To: Renfield

They call it a “giant animal” and then write that it probably died off because it was too short to plow through the snow. I guess everyone else had snowmobiles.


9 posted on 12/08/2012 2:28:51 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Renfield

10 posted on 12/08/2012 2:32:27 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: Renfield
As the late Pleistocene gave way to the early Holocene, climate warming and moistening created deeper layers of snow in winter.................

That's a load of hog wash. We all know climate warming didn't start until the introduction of the internal combustion engine, coal fired power plants and the back yard bar-b-que, so sayeth Swami Algore!!!

11 posted on 12/08/2012 2:36:38 PM PST by varon (Given a choice, I'll take the Mafia over the Feds anytime)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Not likely. The face looks like a snow plow.


12 posted on 12/08/2012 2:50:45 PM PST by Average Al
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To: Renfield

It looks a bit like a wild boar.


13 posted on 12/08/2012 2:58:46 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: blueunicorn6

“Frosted Flakes”
Good one.


14 posted on 12/08/2012 3:03:40 PM PST by MCF
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To: Renfield
...was likely driven to extinction in part due to its inability to wade through deeper blankets of snow,...

Strange. It's about the size and build of a modern American bison which existed in staggering numbers on the Great Plains precisely because it dealt so well with intense blizzard conditions. Hmm.

15 posted on 12/08/2012 3:39:04 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: TigersEye

Bison evolved to deal with such conditions, specifically a large square head to plow under snow to search for food. But the major strategy they used to survive winter was to migrate south as winter arrived, and then move north as grasses began to sprout in the spring. It should also be noted, that although winter on the Great Plains can be bitterly cold, it really doesn’t snow much - drifts may be deep, but that’s about it. About 60 miles from where I sit on the other hand, it really snows - Mt Baker has had 6 and half feet this week alone. It averages about 55 feet a year, and a few years back they ended up with 95 feet of snowfall. It that case, it doesn’t matter how long your legs are...


16 posted on 12/08/2012 3:54:13 PM PST by stormer
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping

I should know better than to post something about Rhinos here...


17 posted on 12/08/2012 4:04:49 PM PST by Renfield (Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
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To: stormer

So why didn’t rhinos evolve to deal with it? That big horn would be as good of or a better plow than a bison’s head. Bison did not migrate south in any particular pattern. The Canadian Woods Buffalo lives around the Arctic Circle. The Mountain Buffalo lived in the high country of the Rocky Mountains.


18 posted on 12/08/2012 4:10:16 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: stormer

Thank goodness it doesn't snow much on the Great Plains.

19 posted on 12/08/2012 4:16:40 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: TigersEye
"...So why didn’t rhinos evolve to deal with it? ..."

Sometimes punctuated-equilibrium doesn't "punctuate".

20 posted on 12/08/2012 4:20:04 PM PST by Does so (Dims don't think ... they PLOT!)
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To: Renfield

Early Rinos.

They shoveled snow like the current ones shovel sh*t.


21 posted on 12/08/2012 4:22:55 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: blueunicorn6

I read something very long ago that rhinos suffered from chronic constipation, which accounted for their foul disposition and high death rate.


22 posted on 12/08/2012 4:29:18 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: Does so
It's also odd that bison evolved into much smaller animals during that same time.
Apparently to handle the snow better.
23 posted on 12/08/2012 4:32:53 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Renfield

When I saw the title, I just knew this thread would be LOL!


24 posted on 12/08/2012 4:41:38 PM PST by Waryone
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To: Renfield

Hat tip to all y’all. Funny stuff.


25 posted on 12/08/2012 4:42:18 PM PST by DC Bound (www.claytonlindemuth.com)
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To: TigersEye

Looks like an overnight dusting at some of the places around me. As I said, drifts can be deep, but snowfall like that pictured is uncommon in the Great Plains (probably why that image has lasted as long as it has). As far as the animals you mentioned, those are most likely relic populations. And I was probably simplistic when I talked about migration; bison will move to areas that provide better thermal cover during the winter - that may be downslope, or even north if conditions are more favorable.


26 posted on 12/08/2012 5:43:06 PM PST by stormer
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To: Renfield

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks Renfield. Political Action Committee hyderm ping.

Just adding to the catalog, not sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


27 posted on 12/08/2012 5:44:01 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Its sudden disappearance puzzles uniformitarian touch-holes.
...found preserved in Siberia reveals that the animal was a herbivore that grazed mainly on cereals...and was likely driven to extinction in part due to its inability...
...to find food when Siberia suddenly became as it is today.


28 posted on 12/08/2012 5:46:55 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: stormer
As I said, drifts can be deep,...

I'm sure the manner in which the snow gets deep is very meaningful to the animal.

As far as the animals you mentioned, those are most likely relic populations.

Most likely. Relics aren't affected by the weather.

...bison will move to areas that provide better thermal cover during the winter - that may be downslope, or even north if conditions are more favorable.

Undoubtedly how the American Bison got its reputation for being able to withstand the worst imaginable winter conditions.

29 posted on 12/08/2012 6:11:59 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: TigersEye

Nobody is saying that bison can’t put up with bad weather. They were historically found all the way to the shores of the Arctic Ocean. But we aren’t talking about cold, we’re talking about snow. You can go around a drift, and despite what you seem to think, bison migrate to locations where forage and grazing is better; animals that can’t migrate (for whatever reason), or can’t adapt, die. Sounds like you just want to argue...


30 posted on 12/08/2012 7:01:29 PM PST by stormer
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To: TigersEye

“That big horn would be as good of or a better plow than a bison’s head.”

Right on Kemosabe!

Just yesterday I ordered a herd of unicorns (actually the proper term is a “shaft” of unicorns) off e-bay which are guaranteed to clear my driveway of snow in under 40 minutes as well provide eight pounds of dung daily for my woodstove.

Money-back if me and the missus aren’t completely satisfied!


31 posted on 12/08/2012 7:26:13 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: stormer
You can go around a drift, ...

ROTFLOL

32 posted on 12/09/2012 11:58:48 AM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Fightin Whitey

What happened to da Skittles?


33 posted on 12/09/2012 12:00:04 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Renfield

Geez, I clicked the link thinking it was about John Boehner .......


34 posted on 12/09/2012 12:01:31 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: sauropod

mark


35 posted on 12/09/2012 12:04:37 PM PST by sauropod (I will not comply)
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