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When Law and Order Break Down: “People Are Afraid Right Now. You Can See It In Their Faces.”
SHTF Plan ^ | 11/19/12 | Mac Salvo

Posted on 11/19/2012 7:51:07 PM PST by Kartographer

Cities from coast-to-coast are facing unprecedented budget deficits that have left government officials with no choice but to strip police forces to a bare minimum. We now regularly hear about new ‘records’ being broken in the resulting crime waves that follow.

Law enforcement officials in Chicago, for example, have said that their city has deteriorated into a domestic war zone with gang violence leaving scores of people dead on a regular basis. Murder, rape, robbery and assault have skyrocketed in bankrupt Stockton, California, suggesting that local governments are quickly losing control.

In New Jersey, the city of Camden may soon be granted the dubious distinction of being the poorest and most violent city in America.

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TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: preparedness; preppers
Gerald Celente: “When People Lose Everything, They Have Nothing Left To Lose, And They Lose It”.

"Let me tell you something about humans, nephew: They're a wonderful, friendly people - as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working."

"But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those friendly, intelligent, wonderful people...will become as nasty and as violent as the most blood-thirsty Klingon."
 Quark from: The Siege of AR-558 (#7.8)" (1998) 
1 posted on 11/19/2012 7:51:14 PM PST by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!


2 posted on 11/19/2012 7:52:35 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Oh I am sure city hall could not find anything else to cut but Fire and Police...

uhhh huh.

Not buying that noise.


3 posted on 11/19/2012 8:02:27 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: Kartographer

This may be of interest... from the comments:

KY Mom says:
Comment ID: 863829
November 19, 2012 at 3:23 pm

Off Topic, but may be helpful

If you still have some “preparedness items” you are looking for, some sites are having special sales this Friday. In the past, Shelf Reliance and Emergency Essentials have had good sales on “Black Friday.” If you sign up on their website, they will email (beforehand) of their sale items.

Links for their websites below.

http://www.beprepared.com

http://www.shelfreliance.com


4 posted on 11/19/2012 8:05:27 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Kartographer

bttt


5 posted on 11/19/2012 8:09:49 PM PST by deweyfrank
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To: cableguymn

Here in NJ cops & firemen (and public works and everyone else) were sacrificed so that teachers working 180 days per year could get their 4% raises. A lot of teachers with less seniority were let go as well; good riddance.

Local governments are learning how to economize (in the same way we’ve been learning for 10 years)...


6 posted on 11/19/2012 8:10:49 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: rockrr

Bfl


7 posted on 11/19/2012 8:14:46 PM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: cableguymn

You nailed it. Whenever they want more of our money, more power, more control... They just threaten to cut police, fire, and/or education... I don’t buy it either.


8 posted on 11/19/2012 8:36:13 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Kartographer
Hope&Change, coming soon to your neighborhood: land of the dead Pictures, Images and Photos "Can we borrow a cup of sugar? Oh, and everything you own, your family and your life?"
9 posted on 11/19/2012 8:38:07 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: tumblindice
"Can we borrow a cup of sugar? Oh, and everything you own, your family and your life?"

HellNO!!!

You can have some bullets, though ...

10 posted on 11/19/2012 8:40:44 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ThunderSleeps

When it comes to education it’s always busing or number of days a week and if that does not catch their attention they do a combo and throw in a few teachers for good measure.

They NEVER cut the people you’d never notice where gone.


11 posted on 11/19/2012 8:46:53 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: Kartographer
We now regularly hear about new ‘records’ being broken in the resulting crime waves that follow...not to mention the day to day thuggism and essentialy domestic terrorism being loosed on the country by this leftist regime and their henchmen - niece who attends the UNIVERSITY IF DELAWARE tells of s student there who was expressing his admiration for Romney shortly before the election when he was attacked and sent to the hospital by what was apparently a gang of non-students - the hatred and intolerance for anyone even disagreeing with this crew is appalling......
12 posted on 11/19/2012 9:06:06 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Kartographer

I live 2 1/2 hours from the nearest city. Wouldn’t live in one for any amount of pay. My nearest neighbor is half a mile away and I like it that way.


13 posted on 11/19/2012 9:14:33 PM PST by albionin
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To: kearnyirish2

Obama’s Amerika


14 posted on 11/19/2012 9:17:03 PM PST by dandiegirl
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To: Kartographer
Last paragraph:
15 posted on 11/19/2012 9:36:20 PM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: Kartographer
“People Are Afraid Right Now. You Can See It In Their Faces.”

I live in a very small, gated, group of houses. My security is very good around my house and I'm not fearful in my house. My shopping is on one street one block from me and I never leave that shopping street to venture elsewhere. I park close to entrances to buildings. I am aware of my surroundings.

However, I shop in an “upscale” grocery store (as opposed to Walmart), because it is safer than the crowded Walmart and one can always get a parking space close to the door of the upscale grocery. To put it bluntly, I am afraid of that Walmart parking lot and afraid of that store. I also cannot stand for 30 minutes try to check out of that Walmart. The upscale grocery starts another check out line if more than two people are in a line. I am paying more money but I know I am safer there and that is worth the extra money.

I do believe as every day goes by, people worry more about being safe outside and some worry about their safety even inside their house.

This is going to get worse especially in the cities and towns that have not controlled their spending and now they are broke as our national government is broke. Yes, they will lay off law enforcement and everything else they have to in order to keep city utilities and trash pick up running.

16 posted on 11/19/2012 10:10:43 PM PST by Marcella (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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To: Kartographer

My tagline is my reply.


17 posted on 11/19/2012 10:11:46 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Kartographer

There IS no law and order anymore. Our elitist rulers blatantly break laws on a regular basis with impunity, and there are no consequences - no “checks and balances” anymore. All government is in collusion and is corrupt. Just look at all the “laws” being passed by states to give rights to “illegal aliens.” This is the biggest oxymoron of all, and a dead giveaway that laws mean absolutely nothing in Amerika anymore.


18 posted on 11/19/2012 10:17:31 PM PST by MCH
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To: Intolerant in NJ

Well its like the ole saying, they send one of yours to hospital, you send two of theirs to the morgue!


19 posted on 11/19/2012 10:28:10 PM PST by Cats Pajamas (Send your dollar to see the birth certificate)
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To: Kartographer

i have concerns about neighbors, thugs, and the government - not necessarily in that order.


20 posted on 11/19/2012 10:34:25 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: MCH

at the same time they invent new laws to turn regular law-abiding folks into criminals for doing stuff that once was legal, in order to confiscate wealth and deprive people of gun rights when guns had nothing to do with it.


21 posted on 11/19/2012 10:37:11 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Kartographer
Cities from coast-to-coast are facing unprecedented budget deficits that have left government officials with no choice but to strip police forces to a bare minimum. We now regularly hear about new ‘records’ being broken in the resulting crime waves that follow.

Law enforcement officials in Chicago, for example, have said that their city has deteriorated into a domestic war zone with gang violence leaving scores of people dead on a regular basis.

No evidence is presented that Chicago has cut its police forces. I don't think they have. The effect is therefore without the cause posited.

22 posted on 11/19/2012 11:39:26 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: cableguymn

Never ever ever do the cuts reach the guy downtown that you never heard of, with the paneled office and the leather chair and the 200k salary...


23 posted on 11/20/2012 1:01:21 AM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: cableguymn

Never ever ever do the cuts reach the guy downtown that you never heard of, with the paneled office and the leather chair and the 200k salary...


24 posted on 11/20/2012 1:01:28 AM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: dandiegirl

Obama tried to save those jobs with temporary infusions of federal cash, but the layoffs went ahead anyway (both fed & state governments had run out of money anyway).

They are Obama’s second-largest voting block (government workers, right behind permanently-unassimilated minorities).


25 posted on 11/20/2012 2:21:10 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: ThunderSleeps

It smells like a modified version of Fast & Furious.


26 posted on 11/20/2012 2:35:36 AM PST by WinMod70
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To: Intolerant in NJ

I would advise anyone doing business of any kind in DE to get out and get out fast. The quicker this Socialist state collapses the better I like it.

I have lived here half my life (jobs) and now I want out. Buy my house and I am gone.


27 posted on 11/20/2012 3:04:52 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: Kartographer

You can’t put new wine in an old wineskin nor repair an old garment with new cloth. As long as we are full of ourselves, we have no room for God. We must get rid of the old to make room for the new.

All that is happening is a great emptying of ourselves to make room for God.


28 posted on 11/20/2012 4:44:42 AM PST by tired&retired
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To: NTHockey

What you don’t like the gay old time being had in Rehobeth?


29 posted on 11/20/2012 5:03:27 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Kartographer; blam; The Duke; WakeUpAndVote; JRandomFreeper; Bride Of Old Sarge; ChocChipCookie; ...
From the article:

Impoverishment will lead to desperation and anger, which in turn leads to “nothing left to lose” attitudes and a rise in violence and criminal activity.


30 posted on 11/20/2012 5:14:32 AM PST by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: Marcella

Marcella —

Please permit me to offer this to you, because I infer you are on the edge of living in fear/ allowing others to restrict your life:

To NOT carry is to choose to be defenseless (non vehere est inermus)

Get licensed, get training, grow confidence, regain liberties they smirk at taking away from you.

After a while, perhaps three months or so, bringing your firearm with you, condition 1 (ready to fire), will be as natural and as comforting as grabbing your keys, cell phone and wallet/purse.

the hardest part is not learning to use a firearm safely and effectively, nor will it be getting over thinking EVERYONE knows you have one. The hardest part of “carrying” is developing the will to use it WHEN (and only if) NECESSARY. Self defense is a mindset more than a physical state.

REM: 99.9+% of licensed carriers NEVER draw their firearm in self-defense, but ALL feel more confident and capable.

I just really encourage you to consider coming over to the ‘defended side’. It may look scary now, but it is very comforting when you get here.


31 posted on 11/20/2012 5:35:08 AM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: central_va

People are afraid i think maybe that`s the first time i have actually seen someone post that.Thank you!!!


32 posted on 11/20/2012 5:37:44 AM PST by lawsino
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

Wow i really liked what was said about the laws,and other subjects,i took the time to write that down,why do we have a border patrol?


33 posted on 11/20/2012 5:38:14 AM PST by lawsino
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To: lawsino
People are afraid i think maybe that`s the first time i have actually seen someone post that.Thank you!!!

I am not sure what you mean but you're welcome.

34 posted on 11/20/2012 5:43:02 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: upchuck

There is not enough money to go around....Our town recently got a grant for some social improvement crap. I asked the Mayor “ HOW, HOW. The state doesn’t have ANY money! How could you accept this?!!” He said, ‘ Well if WE didn’t, some other town would have.’ Totally clueless.


35 posted on 11/20/2012 5:56:31 AM PST by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Marcella

My shopping is on one street one block from me and I never leave that shopping street to venture elsewhere....Dear, I understand your post and I am NOT criticising you. But is this freedom? I arm myself and act so arrogant I beg to have someone confront me.


36 posted on 11/20/2012 6:00:32 AM PST by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Old Sarge

Look for more union actions to start popping.

Overwhelm the system.


37 posted on 11/20/2012 6:10:22 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: tired&retired

I believe it’s more like Obama emptying us to remake us in his image.


38 posted on 11/20/2012 6:14:06 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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http://www.beprepared.com

http://www.shelfreliance.com


39 posted on 11/20/2012 6:22:02 AM PST by phockthis (http://www.supremelaw.org/fedzone11/index.htm ...)
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To: Kartographer

Cutting essential services to scare people into voting for higher taxes all the while not cutting the fat, the multiple layers of managers, or wateful spending on street flowers, etc.


40 posted on 11/20/2012 6:23:55 AM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: Kartographer

From my point of view, the people can go to hell. they had a choice to make on November 6, 2012, and they made it. The majority voted to sell their souls for government freebies. They made theif bed. Let them sleep in it. For those such as myself who did not vote for the bastard, when it rains, it rains on the just as well as the unjust.


41 posted on 11/20/2012 6:31:56 AM PST by sport
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To: Blueflag; Marcella; onyx

Marcella, with a few legally-binding exceptions, I don’t go anywhere without my gun.

I’ve taken the classes, learned the laws and the rules, put in the range time, and gotten the permit.
I’m not a bad shot. People I love have said that I look quite competent handling all sorts of ordnance.

As the joke goes, What am I afraid of? — Absolutely nothing.

Every Constitutional Conservative should carry. When seconds count, the police are minutes away.


42 posted on 11/20/2012 6:45:37 AM PST by TheOldLady
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To: Kartographer

“I believe it’s more like Obama emptying us to remake us in his image.”

Very true. That is the first phase of this process. You are 100% correct for most people. You can see by the election that they have already swallowed the pill!

But God is in control and can even use evil as part of His Divine Plan.


43 posted on 11/20/2012 7:30:45 AM PST by tired&retired
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To: Kartographer

Chicago? Where have I heard of that city before? Oh, yeah, it’s our very own Won Again’s home. He led there just like he’s leading the US. Look at Chicago to see the future of the US.


44 posted on 11/20/2012 11:40:02 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: central_va

Lived her all this time and never been to Rehobeth. After growing up on the Gulf beaches in FL, everything else is a letdown.


45 posted on 11/20/2012 2:53:54 PM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: NTHockey

Rehobeth is a “gay” place for sure.


46 posted on 11/20/2012 3:14:03 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: kearnyirish2

Notice how a bureaucrat’s pay NEVER get’s lower?


47 posted on 11/20/2012 3:28:52 PM PST by Fledermaus (The Republic is Dead: Collapse the system. Let the Dems destroy the economy!)
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To: Kartographer
New Doomsday Preppers tonight.

I was just watching a DDP rerun where some idiot nailed a chicken's neck to a stump to hold it still for the hatchet. It made me sick to see how stupid that is. I guess most people have lost the art or wringing necks.

If anyone needs to know (who wouldn't); it's done by taking the chicken's head in your hand and making a sharp twisting flip movement. The neck snaps like James Bond silently taking out a SPECTRE minion. (Note: a dead yardbird may jump around for several minutes if you let go of it.)

48 posted on 11/20/2012 4:07:33 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: Fledermaus

“Notice how a bureaucrat’s pay NEVER get’s lower?”

Yes; that is because as makers flee and takers infest a place, a higher government entity (county, state, or fed) steps in to make sure the politicians are paid even if the cops aren’t.


49 posted on 11/20/2012 4:20:48 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Kartographer

Placemark.


50 posted on 11/21/2012 11:11:13 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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