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Droughts steady since 1950s
Daily Telegraph (UK) ^ | 11-14-2012 | Nic, Collins

Posted on 11/17/2012 5:39:34 AM PST by Renfield

According to a commonly used model of drought patterns, researchers had previously assumed that higher global temperatures were causing greater evaporation of water, and therefore more droughts.

But a more detailed analysis of weather data, including wind speed, humidity and radiation levels, found that in fact there has been "little change" in drought over the past 60 years.

Researchers from Princeton University and the Australian National University said drought was "expected to increase in frequency and severity" in the future, but added that currently used prediction methods are inaccurate.....

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; climate; climatechange; drought; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; godsgravesglyphs

1 posted on 11/17/2012 5:39:40 AM PST by Renfield
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To: Renfield

droughts come and go.
It has been severe in Texas for the past few years.
The midwest got whacked hard this year.

They had them in Biblical times way before industrialization


2 posted on 11/17/2012 5:55:03 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Renfield

Did I misunderstand my science classes in junior high?
I thought you had to have evaporation of ground water
to get rain. Something called “The Water Cycle”?

MIke


3 posted on 11/17/2012 5:56:30 AM PST by doublecansiter (without cartridge, load in nine times, LOAD!)
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To: mylife
just look up Drought Monitor and you can see how things have been over the last year, etc.

We are currently in one of the great north american droughts.

This is not a Dust Bowl stage drought though but it could be if we also had drought in the North East and South Forida as well as the Northern Great Plains, Southern Great Plains, Central Great Plains, Ohio Valley, SE, SW, California and PAC NW

That would be evidence of continuing patterns of dry winds sufficient to reduce ground water to ziperooni

I"d suggest everyone keep their eyes on thisnext year. Today we had snow of some kind show up in 34 different states ~ and that's from COLD DRY AIR ~ widespread ~ and yet little moisture moving in from the ocean. This is drought weather.

Watch those 10 day weather forecasts. Intellicast has them localized.

4 posted on 11/17/2012 6:08:32 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: doublecansiter
Water evaporates from the world ocean, lakes, rivers, isolated seas, and, lo and behold, the ground!

Rain forms when warm moist air moves in from one place to another and encounters colder air.

Today's snowfall ~ widely spaced around thenation ~ trivial amounts really ~ hit 34 different states over the last 2 hours. That's a sign of little moisture in large air masses ~ just local stuff, evaporated mostly from lakes, rivers and the ground ~ in the presence of cold air.

Drought continues.

5 posted on 11/17/2012 6:11:46 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

I am ready for the cycle to break here in Texas but don’t expect it anytime soon.
We had no hurricane season this year.


6 posted on 11/17/2012 6:19:04 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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We had no hurricane season this year.

It must be those darn oil wells in the gulf!

7 posted on 11/17/2012 6:20:23 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

I just want my farm pond to fill back up. It was a jewel and now its a mud puddle.


8 posted on 11/17/2012 6:46:32 AM PST by Mercat
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To: Mercat

I hear ya.
We’d be in trouble without them.


9 posted on 11/17/2012 6:50:45 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: muawiyah

The long term weather cycle we are currently in most resembles the conditions of the mid-1930’s. This too shall pass, probably within the next year or two. If I recall, the 1940’s were marked by moderate summers and severe winters (just ask the Germans).


10 posted on 11/17/2012 7:13:41 AM PST by henkster ("The people who count the votes decide everything." -Joseph Stalin)
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To: Mercat
Every one around here used the drought as an opportunity to clean out and deepen their dried up ponds. Since the last few rains, some of them have refilled.
11 posted on 11/17/2012 8:08:54 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (The parasites now outnumber the producers.)
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To: 75thOVI; agrace; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; aristotleman; Avoiding_Sulla; ...
Thanks Renfield.



12 posted on 11/17/2012 8:19:21 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Renfield; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Rurudyne; steelyourfaith; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; xcamel

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks Renfield.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


13 posted on 11/17/2012 8:19:48 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Mercat; Renfield; mylife; muawiyah; SunkenCiv
Just posted this:

Global cooling? David Archibald says temperatures are about to dive

14 posted on 11/17/2012 12:10:53 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

We’ve done some of that too. But it hasn’t refilled. We have a small watershed so it may take a few years to come back. This is Douglas Co. KS


15 posted on 11/17/2012 2:30:23 PM PST by Mercat
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To: muawiyah; mylife

I’m curious why NWS called for an El Nino this fall and winter... it did not manifest so they’ve corrected it to ENSO.


16 posted on 11/17/2012 2:43:07 PM PST by txhurl (Once you go Asian, you never miss an equation.)
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To: txhurl
Not an expert in El Nino but my understanding is predictions are not always accurate, but you'll know it when you see it.

That Sandy storm is instructive. If something like that happens about 3 weeks later it's possible it could move on up to Baffin Island and start building new glaciers. That's where the glaciers start that eventually come down and crush Chicago!

17 posted on 11/17/2012 3:20:55 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: txhurl
Not an expert in El Nino but my understanding is predictions are not always accurate, but you'll know it when you see it.

That Sandy storm is instructive. If something like that happens about 3 weeks later it's possible it could move on up to Baffin Island and start building new glaciers. That's where the glaciers start that eventually come down and crush Chicago!

18 posted on 11/17/2012 3:20:55 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: mylife
Of historic, and relevant current history ~ in Texas. The Spanish tried numerous times to settle along the Texas coastal zone. They brought in every sort of livestock, made fences as appropriate, surveyed vast tracts of land and carved it up (1,000 arpents was pretty standard for a subdivision in those days), and, in general approached that vacant landscape pretty much the way Americans would do it ~ not any different really.

And hurricanes came regularly and blew down their buildings and barns, destroyed their grist mills (absolutely necessary for European types of civilization), knocked down the fences, let loose the cattle, turned loose the hogs, allowed the chickens and guinea hens to fly hither and yon, and it was just one thing after the other.

Currently historians get real excited in Texas every time somebody funds a foundation for a house or other building that can be dated BEFORE 1760.

Now while all that was going on the Comanche Indians managed to tame the horse, developed advance riding techniques, delved into trade and, lo and behold, began wearing Spanish style clothing, and turned to firearms as the thing to do!

Before that the Comanche lived up there in Montana ~ but as soon as they got the first horses they began relocating.

Someday somebody has to do a serious DNA study on these guys ~ they've got a lot more Spanish ancestry than they ever let on. And they certainly had serious cultural contact with Spaniards or people like them long before they moved to Texas.

I suspect there was a Great American Drought going on in the Central and Western Plains that lasted up to 80 years before 1760 ~ so that'd take it back to 1680 ~ and by then the Spaniards had actually figured out the entire Western coastline all the way to Little Diomede ~ and the 54 degree 40 minute entrance from the Pacific to the inside passage. Yet, they simply could not make any settlements stick in the PACNW to Texas in all that period - with the exception of the complex in New Mexico

That's a more serious drought than the one we currently have underway, but it ain't over!

19 posted on 11/17/2012 3:35:43 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

I believe Chaco Canyon in New Mexico was abandoned after a 25 year drought, back in the 12th or 13th century.


20 posted on 11/17/2012 5:18:42 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (The parasites now outnumber the producers.)
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To: muawiyah

Back in the early 1900s the high plains of New Mexico were well settled. Small towns were everywhere and every 180 acres had a house on it. People even lived through the droughts of the 1930s.

The drought of the 1950s did them in. We left in 1952 and within a few years most of the towns disappeared or became ghost towns. The small landowners sold out to the larger ranches so there is no where near the number of people there as before.


21 posted on 11/17/2012 5:25:04 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (The parasites now outnumber the producers.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
That cycle went on before ~ in the late 1500s folks moved to Santa Fe. Intermittently they had trouble with the Indians ~ most likely the conflicts arose when the water supplies failed ~ so there's a doctorate waiting for some history major who'd like to do archaeological studies of regional rainfall.

Some of those folks who went to Santa Fe had earlier lived in Virginia ~ i strongly suspect on ships out in the Bay, and possibly at currently unstudied fishing villages in New Jersey.

When Jamestown was still quite fresh they discovered about 20,000 Europeans living on the Jersey coast. Hardly anyone, not even the Indians, could live in the local drought zone ~ and except for the Spanish mission at Hopewell no one was making records of anything around here.

I suspect those early Santa Fe settlers left diaries regarding life on the East Coast way back when ~ love to find that material ~ but it's probably in Spain.

22 posted on 11/17/2012 5:48:23 PM PST by muawiyah
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23 posted on 11/18/2012 8:30:38 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Obama should change his campaign slogan to "Yes, we am!" Sounds as stupid as his administration is.)
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24 posted on 11/18/2012 8:31:39 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Obama should change his campaign slogan to "Yes, we am!" Sounds as stupid as his administration is.)
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To: mylife

Build more coastal windfarms, and store the power in flux capacitors.

In good weather, they will act like fans, and blow moist air inland; but, when a hurricane is coming, turn them around, and use all that stored power to run them, and blow it back out to sea.

/ignorant Lib-speak


25 posted on 11/18/2012 10:09:42 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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