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WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD VOLUME 46 NOVEMBER 16, 2012
Free Republic | Nov 6, 2012 | greeneyes

Posted on 11/16/2012 10:38:39 AM PST by greeneyes

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks. No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread ... there is no telling where it will go and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us!

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TOPICS: Gardening
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Greetings from Missouri. We have great sunny day at 56 degrees. I have lot of ripe tomatoes about 2-3 oz. each, and a bunch of green ones all over the cabinet.

I picked all the tomatoes on the vine prior to a hard frost. I have planted some of the raised beds with rye. Hubby has planted some winter wheat.

Have a great weekend. God Bless.

1 posted on 11/16/2012 10:38:44 AM PST by greeneyes
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To: greeneyes; Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler; SunkenCiv; HungarianGypsy; Gabz; ...

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2 posted on 11/16/2012 10:42:44 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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3 posted on 11/16/2012 10:43:32 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Sure wish we had your temps..

Has fist 6” of snow early last week - gone now...temps in low 40’s during the day...

All beds are tucked in and the Rosemary (tough to grow here is still growing and green - will use some for the turkey this thanksgiving).

Hope this finds all well...


4 posted on 11/16/2012 10:44:53 AM PST by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: illiac

Freshly picked rosemary is wonderful stuff!


5 posted on 11/16/2012 10:55:50 AM PST by left that other site (Worry is the Darkroom that Develops Negatives.)
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To: greeneyes

Can you add me to the ping list?


6 posted on 11/16/2012 11:15:18 AM PST by Lucky Scrunchy (Hulu has "The Hope and the Change" for free: http://www.hulu.com/watch/409925)
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To: greeneyes

Just harvested the last of our brussel sprouts. All the raised beds were tilled and covered. Now all things gardening are relegated to the seed catalogues until Spring!


7 posted on 11/16/2012 11:18:10 AM PST by JDoutrider
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To: illiac

I have my rosemary planted next to a retaining wall facing south west, and covered with a row cover. I’ll run out and grab some on Thanksgiving Day to use.

I tried growing it indoors one year - it did not work.


8 posted on 11/16/2012 11:43:51 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Lucky Scrunchy; Ellendra; JustaDumbBlonde

You’ve been added.


9 posted on 11/16/2012 11:46:10 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: JDoutrider

I am ordering seeds now for the essentials.


10 posted on 11/16/2012 11:46:58 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Tried indoors as well with no luck...

My in-laws, who used to live in Lake Havasu, used rosemary for landscaping....it grew like weeds. When we went to visit, would always use rosemary in cooking for them...kinda wish I’d brought a bunch back to dry and use later....


11 posted on 11/16/2012 11:56:27 AM PST by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: greeneyes
Thanks for the ping.

Temps here about 60 and 36 or 37 at night for the last few nights. No frost yet. Warmer temps coming on Sun night.

We are ready to rip out the remains of the garden and get a soil test done so that we can go ahead and make whatever changes we need for next year and put the '12 garden to bed. Of course, the ghost peppers are a different story, they are in pots and are babied, looking forward to next spring when we expect them to be large enough to have some peppers on them. I have the back porch ready for the container plants and hanging baskets this winter, the grow lights hung from the ceiling and connected to a timer. That worked out well for us last year. Our container plants looked the best that they ever have using the grow lights.

We hope that you have a happy Thanksgiving day.

12 posted on 11/16/2012 12:06:46 PM PST by rightly_dividing (Left behind; 4 Americans in Libya)
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To: greeneyes; JustaDumbBlonde

No gardening news, but here is a garden-related topic. Justadumbblonde will appreciate this:

http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/xHkq1edcbk4?rel=0


13 posted on 11/16/2012 12:11:49 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: rightly_dividing

I am jealous of your back porch. Wish we had one too. LOL


14 posted on 11/16/2012 12:15:25 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Thanks for the link. Have you heard from JADB?


15 posted on 11/16/2012 12:17:23 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: illiac

When I lived in California, I had a rosemary bush that grew out by my back steps. Whenever I made spaghetti, I’d hop out the back door and pick a nice brig sprig, rinse it off, and strip the leaves into my sauce. One day my 3rd child saw me do that and had a fit. She wouldn’t eat spaghetti for a long time, accusing me of putting sticks into the sauce.

Rosemary is strictly an annual around here (Wisconsin). An it doesn’t work to bring it into the house for the winter. It never survives. I’m always tempted by those darling little topiaries that they sell in the spring, but without a green house to keep them, I’m just throwing my money away.


16 posted on 11/16/2012 12:19:17 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: greeneyes

No, I haven’t. I thought that some of you would know where she has been.


17 posted on 11/16/2012 12:20:33 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: greeneyes

Anyone with any spare time might want to see if you can get a ‘victory garden’ rolling for your town or local church to help provide produce for the people who are going to be suffering thru 2013...


18 posted on 11/16/2012 12:22:17 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I have not heard a word for the months since she posted the last thread. I haven’t heard from anyone else that they have heard from her either. Just hoping she is OK.


19 posted on 11/16/2012 12:24:31 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Her last post seems to be August 10th...


20 posted on 11/16/2012 12:27:56 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
We are kinda borderline, so I am hoping that the protection of the retaining wall, and the row cover will help it to be a perennial.
21 posted on 11/16/2012 12:35:22 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Thank you!


22 posted on 11/16/2012 12:42:49 PM PST by Lucky Scrunchy (Hulu has "The Hope and the Change" for free: http://www.hulu.com/watch/409925)
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To: greeneyes

Well, it’s hunting season now, so she may be off on a trip.


23 posted on 11/16/2012 12:51:22 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: who knows what evil?

Our Mayor was working on that here last I heard. He called it a community garden though. It’s a great idea.


24 posted on 11/16/2012 1:05:41 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: who knows what evil?

I just hope she’s ok.


25 posted on 11/16/2012 1:06:40 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Well, that could be, but I am suprised she hasn’t posted since August. I have to get online here at least once a week. LOL.


26 posted on 11/16/2012 1:09:19 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

She’s been MIA for over 3 months. When FRiends go missing that long I worry.

In TX, we’ve had a few night light freezes and daytime temps of 60s. So far, knocking on wood, everything survived. I’m leaving what’s left of the “deer’s” beans to dry so I can replant next spring but I’m moving them to an inside fence so Dufus 1 and Dufus 2 can pretend to guard them. There are tomato plants popping up everywhere. Still not getting tomatoes from some of the ones I started last December so will till them under in a few months and start over. Harvesting mustard and spinach. Kale looks to be coming on so might get some before it gets too cold. Planted some elephant garlic a couple days ago.


27 posted on 11/16/2012 1:18:54 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: greeneyes

Well, there’s harvest and then there’s hunting. She could be just very busy. I hope it is nothing more than that.


28 posted on 11/16/2012 1:23:03 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: greeneyes

Once again, I want to thank you, greeneyes, for taking charge of the gardening thread!

My usual response to stress is to work on getting closer to a self-reliant homestead. So as I’m sure you can imagine, the gardening bug has bitten rather hard since the election, and about 3 months early. More than once I’ve even found myself browsing wistfully through LAST YEAR’S seed catalogs. This is going to be a long winter!

Earlier this week I went out to my land with a load of carpeting to lay down, since the landscape fabric I’ve got isn’t quite up to handling those weeds. I have a neighbor who farms one end of my land, and it seems he’s got a new hired hand working for him, one who never quite learned how to color inside the lines. Thankfully the only thing that got shredded was one end of the landscape fabric, I would’ve been really steamed if he’d gotten my saplings!!! Still, I think I’m going to have to come up with some kind of fence for that area. It’s going to be rustic, I lost my job last February (and because it was due to medical reasons, I was told I didn’t qualify for unemployment, and my disability insurance only covered one paycheck instead of 3 months like they promised), so I’m going to have to build this fence out of whatever I can find on the land or scrounge up on craigslist. There are some woven willow fences that look really cool out there!

I figure I can fence off a 6-foot strip of land that was cleared but shouldn’t have been. That would put it about where the edge of the field used to be. All that nice cleared land can’t be allowed to go to waste, of course, so I’ve got my graphing paper and seed inventory out and am planning what to grow there. That edge of my land is a little over 250 feet long, so at 6 feet wide, that’s about 1500 square feet of gardening space! Plus, If I can’t find a job I’m going to be camping out there most of the time, so hopefully I can make a little off of selling my extra produce. There’s a local-foods store that buys from individual farmers and gardeners, and they’re usually short on cucumbers.

This also gives me space to expand my seed supply, some of the “survival stash” varieties I have, such as hulless oats, I only have a little packet of the seed. I’d rather have 5 pounds or more, so that if I have to I can grow enough to live on. (Oats aren’t the only grain I have, I’d be doing that with lots of things.)

The person I want to order popbeans and flour corn from still hasn’t posted her seed availability for this season yet. I’m starting to get antsy waiting for the new seed catalogs to arrive.


29 posted on 11/16/2012 2:22:06 PM PST by Ellendra (http://www.ustrendy.com/ellendra-nauriel/portfolio/18423/concealed-couture/)
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To: Ellendra

You are welcome. I am happy to do it. I do feel a little discouraged not and then since we have so many who used to be regulars, that don’t post any more.

However, I really appreciate those that do all the more.LOL.
Yes, planning is a great stress buster. Also, cleaning and organizing is a great way to get rid of tension. Something very satisfying about taking a drawer or cabinet, taking everything out, sorting and reorganizing/cleaning it all up.


30 posted on 11/16/2012 3:27:51 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic; greeneyes

JADB just stopped pointing during a discussion of her extensive Solar Panels. I have run a few search engines to see if I could her but nothing showed up.


31 posted on 11/16/2012 3:52:46 PM PST by tubebender (Evening news is where they begin with "Good Evening," and then proceed to tell you why it isn't.)
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To: tubebender

That’s right. She was having them installed this year. I wonder if she is having trouble with them?


32 posted on 11/16/2012 3:56:29 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: tubebender

Yeh, It is kinda a worry. She was really going to be busy, so I wasn’t suprised at first. But then as time went on and no one heard anything it just makes me concerned.

Only thing I can really do is pray and hope for the best.


33 posted on 11/16/2012 4:20:59 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic; greeneyes

I’ve checked JADB’s posting history: nada, so she isn’t just ignoring us.

I’ve FReepmailed twice, with no reply.

I looked up her phone number, and called, but only got a machine, and no call-backs.

I’ve checked her local area newspaper online, but no mention of her or her family. Sort of good news, since no accident reports or listed obituaries involving her.

I’m going to try sending a Thanksgiving card via snail mail, and see if it’s ignored, comes back, or whatever.

Unfortunately, I have no idea what area of Montana their other place is located, so can’t do much about searching there.


34 posted on 11/16/2012 6:46:48 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Thanks. Hoping all is well for her.


35 posted on 11/16/2012 6:50:56 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
Thank you for the ping.

This past week has been yard cleanup. Last mowing of the lawn for the season and leaf pickup. There are around 18 trees in the front yard and a few more on the west side of the house.

All trees are naked now except for an oak, a willow and a Bradford Pear. I use contractor heavy duty trash bags to store the leaves until I can put them in the compost. These bags will be placed in between the blueberry plants to ward off the roving deer who love to prune the plants.

Yesterday I got my first new seed catalog for 2012/2013.

36 posted on 11/16/2012 7:00:44 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: ApplegateRanch

Thank you for your diligence and knowledge of the internet. She posted some great photos.


37 posted on 11/16/2012 7:18:50 PM PST by tubebender (Evening news is where they begin with "Good Evening," and then proceed to tell you why it isn't.)
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To: Ellendra

Ellendra, wishing you the best of luck in selling your produce. Hello to the list from western PA. Overnight temps are below 30 degrees and we wake up to frost on the lawn. The purple and green kohl plants are hardy enuf for the low temps. Everything else was cut back and made into sprigs we call tussie mussies.


38 posted on 11/16/2012 7:42:18 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: Just mythoughts

Hubby usually just mows over the leaves and lets them stay on the yard. I pick up a few and stuff them in the compost pile on top of kitchen scraps.

We’re kinda lazy when it comes to leaves. LOL.


39 posted on 11/16/2012 8:17:17 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Good to be back after a long tough campaign season. My guys didn’t win but we gave them a good race.

Garden is put to bed, didn’t even have time to put any greens under the tunnel or get my grains in, so it’s completely empty except for the herb garden and the jerusalem artichokes.

I discovered a website via my facebook awhile back called Cultured Food Life - http://www.culturedfoodlife.com - and now I am brewing my first batch of lacto-fermented vegetables. Will let y’all know how it goes.


40 posted on 11/16/2012 8:26:18 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! [You can vote Democrat when you're dead]...)
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To: Free Vulcan

Welcome back. We are all a little weary and very disappointed with the election results, but I want to say thanks for your efforts.

We are still warm enough to get a little more winter wheat in and maybe some lettuce and spinach too.


41 posted on 11/16/2012 8:32:36 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

My thoughts and Prayers go out for JADB as well...

Not a good omen to just drop out of sight like she did.


42 posted on 11/16/2012 10:48:35 PM PST by JDoutrider
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To: greeneyes; afraidfortherepublic; tubebender

Thanks to a tip from afraidfortherepublic, it looks like I’ve located her son, and sent him an email asking about her.


43 posted on 11/17/2012 1:09:32 AM PST by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Oh that’s good. Maybe we’ll find out what’s going on.


44 posted on 11/17/2012 5:28:17 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Thank you!


45 posted on 11/17/2012 7:06:03 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: greeneyes
It's been relatively nice in the Hill Country. Last night, the Mrs and I were sitting outside around a fire, enjoying the time with our neighbors when a sudden chill permeated the air. I swear, it must have dropped 10 degrees, and there was absolutely no wind or clouds in the sky.

The garden is currently producing Dinosaur Kale, cabbage, broccoli, carrots, and radish. The peanuts look like they'll be ready to harvest soon also.

I moved all my citrus and tropical plants into the greenhouse in case there is a sudden freeze. The one plant I'm worried about is the papaya, since it managed to grow through the greenhouse skylight and is partially exposed to outside temps.

46 posted on 11/17/2012 11:09:49 AM PST by Sarajevo (Don't think for a minute that this excuse for a President has America's best interest in mind.)
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To: greeneyes

What do people think of the idea of gathering ideas/s\directions about particular gardening advice in a permanent way (seed starting, for example), so that when the questions come up in the spring, a number of replies are ready?


47 posted on 11/17/2012 11:26:41 AM PST by Nepeta
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To: Ellendra

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVRouZJI7aQ

Scrounge pallates


48 posted on 11/17/2012 12:46:50 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (Viva Christo Rey)
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To: Sarajevo

Mouse theives got my peanuts.

I thought I had them safely located to dry..But they were carried off without a trace.


49 posted on 11/17/2012 1:08:07 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (Viva Christo Rey)
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To: greeneyes

I forgot to mention that I got about 50% of my cover crop planted Thursday before the weather changed and it looks like heavy rain for the next few days which will make mush of the remaining Raspberries but Lady Bender picked another 2 quarts of them while I planted the CC


50 posted on 11/17/2012 3:23:52 PM PST by tubebender (Evening news is where they begin with "Good Evening," and then proceed to tell you why it isn't.)
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