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Rush IS right: The conservative base DID NOT show up for Mitt & giving amnesty will not help the GOP
11/14/2012 | Laissez-Faire Capitalist

Posted on 11/14/2012 8:00:54 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist

Rush is right! And the GOP-e along with the Morrises, the George Wills, etc, failed in their predictions. Morris admitted he had egg on his face, but I did not see George Will admit this. Maybe he did, but I didn't see it. Are the now obsolete?

Are the Krauthammers, the O'Reillys, the Vannitys, Rollins, etc also obsolete? Is Vannity still going to continue having the same ol same ol on his show? And what about the other shows on FOX News? Are they going to continue having RINOS/CINO guests/hosts on their shows?

Mitt Romney got fewer votes than McCain did. Yes, fewer people also showed up to vote for Obama, but all RINOldus Mittnus had to do was equal the turnout that McCain received (which was a surge of conservative voters driven by Palin being on the ticket (which Ryan could not match)) and Obama would have been defeated. Even better, have a conservative on the top of the ticket, and not some RINO [Mittnus], who has a long history of supporting RINOism (which the numerous past threads here at FR have shown).

Add to that Romney having a RINO past greater than that of McLame and the Romney/Ryanticket was doomed for defeat. Romney running on a promise to rubber-stamp conservative legislation did not undo the mistrust of his past record.

And the GOP-e now thinks that what cost them the election was not reaching out to Hispanics with a message of a pathway to citizenship (amnesty to illegals)? Please.

The GOP-e will try its hardest to shift the blame elsewhere, but they just can't help putting up Ford's Doles, George "read my lips" Bushs, McLames and now RINOldus Mittnus. The GOP-e loves RINOS/CINOS.

But RINOS/CINOS lose.....


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To: Tenacious 1; dreamerintexas

We were already past the point of no return. Romney could slow it, but not stop it.

So this election was not about turning it around, but managing the crash. Our priorities should be about making sure the crash gets blamed on liberals and liberal policies, and on disciplining the GOP.


21 posted on 11/14/2012 8:27:32 AM PST by delapaz
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To: Strategerist
and they are thus irrelevant

"I'm Chris Christie, and I approve this message."

22 posted on 11/14/2012 8:29:47 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Unless the person in question has 100 million dollars and likes to donate to political campaigns, what, exactly would be accomplished by catering to the whims of a “True Conservative” in, say, Oklahoma, that didn’t vote for McCain or Romney because they were RINOs?


23 posted on 11/14/2012 8:32:44 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

If you’re not going to show up, then you’re not going to be there to take a seat at the table. Tough toenails.


24 posted on 11/14/2012 8:33:44 AM PST by Cousin Eddie
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To: Strategerist

1. I exist, so your first point is wrong.

2. I live in OH.

And anecdotally, I know I’m not the only one. I live in a red hotbed county and I’m telling you the energy was much less than it was in 2004 and 2008.

Now will you listen, or will you hold on to your theories?


25 posted on 11/14/2012 8:40:19 AM PST by delapaz
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Akin lost MO by 15%, whereas Romney won it by 10%. I hate to say it, but I think - in conjunction with Mourdock’s and Akin’s gaffes - not having a rape or incest exception in the GOP abortion plank was what cost us the election. While we had it in prior elections, nobody paid much attention to it. Until 2012, when Akin and Mourdock finally put the plank up in neon lights. While everyone’s talking about immigration, I think the lack of a rape or incest exception may have elicited a much more visceral response from women voters.


26 posted on 11/14/2012 8:41:43 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Up next on PPV: Cat fight between Limbaugh and Hannity.


27 posted on 11/14/2012 8:41:58 AM PST by ShadowDancer ("Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong.")
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To: delapaz
Our priorities should be about making sure the crash gets blamed on liberals and liberal policies, and on disciplining the GOP.

I agree with your comment. The problem is, the real crash (Greece style) is likely still 30 to 50 years out. We'll put bandaids on it and print money while our credit rating continues to plummet for some time to "try and save our country."

Proof of that will be this congressional compromise that is comming and will supposedly stops us from going over the fiscal cliff.

We are going to play another 4 years of defense at least. Then we may get a chance to plug some holes and shore things up in 2016 for a few years. It will only prolong the inevitable unless by some miracle, people on welfare, retirees, etc. stop getting benefits and turn to conservatism/republicans.

Yea. I don't believe in unicorns either.

28 posted on 11/14/2012 8:45:37 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (The Click-&-Paste Media exists & works in Utopia, riding unicorns & sniffing pixy dust.)
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To: Strategerist
No, no, you've absolutely convinced me.

Seriously. I mean it. Solemn pinky swear.

It's simply a straightforward, logistical matter of making those stinking, worthless dogs eat the @#$%ing dog food we deign to jam down their ungrateful neck holes, is all.

I'll just sit here, in this nice shady spot, and watch. You've obviously got this whole thing covered.

JEB BUSH 2016: "... Because Hillary Can't Win This Thing All By Herself, You Know."

29 posted on 11/14/2012 8:46:37 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: Strategerist

Not to mention the fact that Republicans won the house by a good margin. People here delude themselves. The fact is that the democrats have put together a machine in the last 25 years that turns out very large percentages of democrat voters in urban environments and they provide large numbers for the left. If anybody thinks that LBJ’s Great Society doesn’t have a present day effect on National Elections they’re retarded.


30 posted on 11/14/2012 8:51:25 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Tenacious 1

Ideally you’re right, but I’m not going to bet on it. I think that Medical and pension costs for the baby boomers will kill us in five years.

This fact will be apparent to everyone in less than five years. I mean it’s apparent to us (you and me and many others) now and that consciousness will keep growing.

And that’s when the freakout->crash->more freakouts->further crash cycle starts getting real.

In other words, the anticipation of the crash causes the crash. Why do you think the government is so hepped on lying to us about the current state? And government lying is definitely a bipartisan affair.


31 posted on 11/14/2012 8:52:29 AM PST by delapaz
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To: Strategerist

Out of about 20 of my close political friends, I know 3 that refused to vote for Romney: 2 Ron Paul supporters and one die-hard ‘no lessor of two evils’ type.

Point is, we - as a party - told the Paulites to go to hell. We can’t blame them for saying, in effect, “You first.”

I have no doubt this includes enough voters to close the gap. In my neck of Texas, about a third of the Tea Party were Paulite. By shutting them down, we shut out the Tea Party influence this cycle. I’m not a Paulite, but telling a few million voters to take a hike seems to have been short-sighted.

This is especially true since Paul seemed to kin some with Romney in the primaries. Not having Paul and Palin on the campaign trail, actively appealing to the respective bases, was a blown opportunity.

This is what happens when you let consultants that hold grudges make decisions for you.


32 posted on 11/14/2012 8:54:48 AM PST by ziravan (Are you better off now than you were $9.4 Trillion dollars ago?)
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To: delapaz
1. I exist, so your first point is wrong.

I think that ought to be the "theme" of Mittens' inaugural ball, come this January in DC: "THOSE PEOPLE DON'T EXIST -- !!!"

Also: I think Willy Wonka ought to be there, to hand out free gobstoppers to all the gowned and tuxedoed guests as they arrive. ;)

33 posted on 11/14/2012 8:55:28 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: ziravan

I have been attacked endlessly for this view point.

Some of these people are still in denial. For the GOP to win - we need the ron paul people, the tea party people, the palin supporters, the libertarian minded people etc.


34 posted on 11/14/2012 8:57:23 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Cousin Eddie

We have to concentrate on the mid-term and take the Senate. Then we have the chance to roll back onerous regs, liberty-stifling edicts, Obamacare, and exploit America’s true energy resources. If we show the public for two years that this works and things start to turn around, then we can worry about 2016. We can’t do a blessed thing without the Senate.


35 posted on 11/14/2012 8:57:28 AM PST by CTOCS (I live in my own little world. But, it's okay. They know me there....)
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To: oldbrowser
My conclusion as well. Some people decided that it was better, through their inaction, to allow the election of a baby butcher who hates America than to vote for a Mormon.

Congratulations.

36 posted on 11/14/2012 8:59:54 AM PST by Pecos (Double tap: the only acceptable gun control)
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To: ziravan

This is a good point.

I was mystified in the primaries that Ron Paul was somehow an “unacceptable” candidate while Mitt Romney was OK?!?!

I guess electability counts for something.

Except Mitt couldn’t get elected. Oops.


37 posted on 11/14/2012 9:01:27 AM PST by delapaz
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To: delapaz
I guess electability counts for something.

Whenever you hear any representative of the GOP-e fart or wheeze the word "electability"... what they really mean is: "Someone acceptable to Rachel Maddow."

38 posted on 11/14/2012 9:04:15 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: Tenacious 1

i’ve lost credibility in all pundits and talk back radio. i feel as betrayed by them as by those who voted for obama and those who abstained from voting for romney so they could feel good about themselves.


39 posted on 11/14/2012 9:30:50 AM PST by bravo whiskey
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To: bravo whiskey

Feeling good about yourself is way better than feeling suckered by the pundits and “conservatives” who told you to sell out for Romney.

Join us next time.


40 posted on 11/14/2012 9:42:18 AM PST by delapaz
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