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Can Scalia Hold Out for Two Years? [vanity]

Posted on 11/12/2012 6:08:47 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March

God bless Scalia. If he can hang in there for two more years, we have a chance.

Here's the bottom line -- Scalia is a brilliant and patriotic conservative. But he's not a spring chicken any more. If he retires from the Supreme Court, then there's only thing stopping Obama from appointing another Kagan -- the Senate. This next off-year is 2014. We'll feel pain from now until then -- you can bet.

But here's the bright side -- pain = votes [unless your candidate fails to rally conservatives]. It's a terrible way to gain ground, but America chose'em, not us.

There's one fly that could ruin this ointment: amnesty. If today's illegal aliens become tomorrow's voters, we collapse. If there must be amnesty, Rush is right -- at least stall them from voting until they've learned 'the ropes' by actually being Americans for a couple decades.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: elections; scalia; vanity

1 posted on 11/12/2012 6:08:55 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

There were 23 Dems and 10 Reps up in ‘12 and we lost seats. Why would ‘14 be different?


2 posted on 11/12/2012 6:12:55 AM PST by xkaydet65
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

He’d better be prepared to last another 4 years. I wouldn’t count on a Republican senate to block any Obama SCOTUS nominee.


3 posted on 11/12/2012 6:17:03 AM PST by skeeter
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To: xkaydet65

they already have a SCOTUS majority with Roberts.


4 posted on 11/12/2012 6:21:51 AM PST by a real Sheila (RYAN/romney 2012)
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To: skeeter

Much worse damage will be done at the federal district and appellate court levels.

We’ve lost the nation. It is over.


5 posted on 11/12/2012 6:22:00 AM PST by mwl8787
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To: xkaydet65

Actually, the Democrats do face a tougher map in ‘14, they have to defend six incumbents in red states and six incumbents in swing states.

That said, even with a narrow lead in the Senate post ‘14 it would be difficult to turn down “moderate” SC appointments.


6 posted on 11/12/2012 6:22:10 AM PST by M. Dodge Thomas (million)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Of course he can "last" in the job another 4 years...He is appointed for life...and as long as he lives, he's in.

I don't think that there is any kind of stipulation that he has to be functional.....he just has to be alive.

7 posted on 11/12/2012 6:27:10 AM PST by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance.....)
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To: xkaydet65

There were 23 Dems and 10 Reps up in ‘12 and we lost seats. Why would ‘14 be different?

The good news is that the Democrats don’t vote in off-Presidential years or special elections. Thank God! The reason we won in 2010 is because Democrats didn’t show up. The reason we won Brown’s seat to begin with is that Democrats didn’t show up and the reason we saved Walker is because Democrats did show up and voted to keep Walker because even they thought that was a crap move.


8 posted on 11/12/2012 6:31:31 AM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Two years? If he can’t hold on for four, the republic is lost. Meanwhile, Obama will replace the old liberals with young leftists.


9 posted on 11/12/2012 6:32:56 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: mwl8787

You are right, we will never return to what we had. It will go downhill as Rome went down.


10 posted on 11/12/2012 6:34:04 AM PST by mel (There are only 2 races decent and undecent people)
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To: a real Sheila

Based on Roberts reasoning on Obamacare, I’d say he plans on giving Obama whatever he asks for. Like the dead Navy Seals dad said about Obama, I would guess that Roberts handshake also feels like a ‘dead fish’.


11 posted on 11/12/2012 6:38:08 AM PST by bramps (Sarah Palin got more votes in 2008 than Romney did in 2012)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
If today's illegal aliens become tomorrow's voters, we collapse. If there must be amnesty, Rush is right -- at least stall them from voting until they've learned 'the ropes' by actually being Americans for a couple decades.

Rush is wrong on two counts. One, any legislation that allows the lawbreakers to stay and work here--the object of their crime--will destroy this country whether they become citizens or not.

The Heritage Foundation concluded that the cost of amnesty would be $2.6 trillion just for increased entitlement program costs. And the number of additional LEGAL immigrants who would join those who were the recipients of amnesty through chain migration, i.e., family reunification, would approach 70 million over a 20-year period, assuming there are only 12 million illegal aliens. We cannot assimilate such numbers. An amnesty would destroy the United States of America with the stroke of a pen.

Two, there is no way the courts would uphold such second class citizenship. Once you legalize their status and allow them to stay here permanently, you won't be able to treat them any differently than any other immigrant.

12 posted on 11/12/2012 6:49:54 AM PST by kabar
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

We do not have any chance whatsoever.


13 posted on 11/12/2012 7:08:29 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: napscoordinator
The good news is that the Democrats don’t vote in off-Presidential years or special elections. Thank God! The reason we won in 2010 is because Democrats didn’t show up.

So what happened in 2006?
14 posted on 11/12/2012 7:17:18 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Here’s the thing, there’s absolutely no assurance - none - that a GOP Senate would refuse to confirm an Obama nominee to the Supreme Court.

The GOP has been saying for a couple decades now that the President should be given as much leeway as possible in his appointments. Including to the Court. The next SCOTUS justice to retire (should it happen within Obama’s remaining term) will be replaced by either Hillary! or Holder. The retiring Justice aft that will be replaced by the other one.

The GOP Senate will be deferential. Especially to a former colleague like Hillary!.


15 posted on 11/12/2012 7:24:25 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: Dr. Sivana

So what happened in 2006?

That is true. That was complete hatred for the War and Bush and it is true that the Democrats turned out that year.


16 posted on 11/12/2012 7:32:39 AM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

I have zero faith that a GOP controlled senate would block the next Kagan.


17 posted on 11/12/2012 7:37:08 AM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: tanknetter

It sounds odd to say it; but, Hillary is too centrist for Obama.

Really.

And, loyalty is not Barry’s strong suit. He will stab the Clintons in the back in the end.

His next nomination will make Ginsburg blush.

Forget abortion, the next nominee will be pro ‘right to die’, in favor of a variety of anti-second amendment schemes, and would subjugate our military, laws, and leadership to the approval of the UN.


18 posted on 11/12/2012 7:42:42 AM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Poor old Scalia isn’t going save what is already lost. It is very possible we will never see another Republican in the White House, and after 2014, we may never see another Republican controlled Congress. The days of hanging our hopes on conservative judges are over.


19 posted on 11/12/2012 8:15:45 AM PST by pallis
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To: a real Sheila

I meant to say Dems have a SCOTUS majority with ROberts.
I too imagine he will bend over and take whatever they want to push.

Bad analogy, I know.


20 posted on 11/12/2012 9:31:20 AM PST by a real Sheila (RYAN/romney 2012)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

“Can Scalia Hold Out for Two Years?”

I have a three word answer for that - Ruth Bader Ginsberg


21 posted on 11/12/2012 9:47:39 AM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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