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States Can Shut Down ObamaCare's Big Spending Plans (CATO)
CATO ^ | 08/01/2012 | Michael F. Cannon

Posted on 11/10/2012 8:24:54 PM PST by Kolath

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To: Kolath

I live in Texas, Rick Perry has made it clear he will implement no part of Obama Care. Thank God!


21 posted on 11/10/2012 9:35:26 PM PST by jjguzzardo
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To: LongWayHome

He might be playing politics.

Nothing is as it seems the political world.


22 posted on 11/10/2012 9:38:41 PM PST by berdie
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To: Bshaw

How is that we Ohians voted to opt out of Obama’s health care mandate in all 88 counties and then turn around and re-elect him just a year later?


23 posted on 11/10/2012 9:44:37 PM PST by Gorilla44
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To: GeronL

You should do your homework BEFORE you post.
SCOTUS has already ruled on this point.
The STATES won!


24 posted on 11/10/2012 9:49:17 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: Gorilla44

“How is that we Ohians voted to opt out of Obama’s health care mandate in all 88 counties and then turn around and re-elect him just a year later?”

Massive voter fraud. I’m in Cleveland, you know, where more than a dozen precincts elected Obama by 100% of the vote.

Bwaaahhahahahhah. No way!

He was not elected, he community organized his rear end back into another 4 years.


25 posted on 11/10/2012 9:51:14 PM PST by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: JustTheTruth

There is no “there” there.
There is no funding vehicle for the “Federal Exchange” and the House will not provide funds for such.


26 posted on 11/10/2012 9:51:46 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: Viennacon
What is Alaska doing about this? I'd like to know that, too. Check with our legislator's office?
27 posted on 11/10/2012 10:19:31 PM PST by ArmyTeach ( Videteco eos prius (See 'em first) Sculpin 191)
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To: Kolath

Even if the state refuses to set up an exchange are’nt we as individuals still required to provide proof of coverage to, or else be hounded by the Amerikan Gestapo(IRS) under the guise that it is a tax not a penalty?


28 posted on 11/10/2012 10:43:40 PM PST by DaiHuy (One Big Assed Mistake America)
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To: Jane Long

OH has also said No.


29 posted on 11/10/2012 11:48:40 PM PST by Catsrus
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To: Gorilla44

Maybe they thought since we voted not to participate in obamacare, that would exempt us. There was major fraud in OH as well as some very powerful unions. I’m thinking of moving to a red state, which Ohio used to be. We vote R in state elections, but the past 2 presidential elections have gone blue. It makes me sick!


30 posted on 11/10/2012 11:51:37 PM PST by Catsrus
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To: Kolath
To date, 14 states have said "NO" to the exchanges. 13 states have said "yes".

Would you please list the states for us ?

31 posted on 11/10/2012 11:52:28 PM PST by John Leland 1789
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To: Kansas58
and the House will not provide funds for such.

Since we have no budget, what would stop Obama from setting them up anyway? It appears to me all the federal spending right now is from one giant slush fund.

32 posted on 11/11/2012 5:49:17 AM PST by radioone
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To: Catsrus

You can move to Oklahoma, we are as Red as it gets.


33 posted on 11/11/2012 5:50:48 AM PST by amigatec (The only change you will see in the next four years will be what's in your pocket.)
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To: JustTheTruth
They confidently assert that if a state chooses to not have an exchange, that there will instead be a federally operated exchange in that state.

Will the net effect of that then be to force the deficit spending that's going to result to the federal government, driving up the federal deficit and protecting the state from bankruptcy?

34 posted on 11/11/2012 6:02:46 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: radioone

It’s really going to come to a head if a number of states refuse to set up exchanges and the federal govt. has to set up the exchanges. The states who ARE setting up exchanges will scream bloody murder when that happens.

Kind of a good thing, because it will illustrate and raise awareness that we actually do have a 10th amendment to the constitution.


35 posted on 11/11/2012 6:32:28 AM PST by mtrott
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To: Kolath
Fine but the Feds can still steal our personal income and make the citizens pay
unless the congress does something about it. So we'll pay no matter what states do.

Maybe somebody can correct me if I'm wrong, or partially wrong here.

36 posted on 11/11/2012 6:49:20 AM PST by MaxMax
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From CATO:

Of course, if states refuse to set up an exchange, Obamacare gives the federal government the authority to step in and operate an exchange itself in those states. But there is reason to doubt that the federal government has either the ability or the money to do so. Congress has not appropriated any funding for this purpose and seems unlikely to do so.

More important, as my colleague Michael Cannon has discovered, a little-discussed provision of Obamacare makes federal subsidies for insurance available only through those exchanges that the states set up themselves. So, while the federal government does have the power to create exchanges in states that refuse to do so, it cannot offer subsidies through those federally run exchanges.

Moreover, it is those subsidies that actually trigger the penalty under Obamacare for employers who fail to provide workers with insurance. Obamacare requires employers with 50 or more workers to provide health insurance or pay a tax, but only if at least one employee qualifies for subsidies under the exchange. Therefore, if subsidies can be provided only through a state-authorized exchange, a state could potentially block the employer mandate altogether, simply by refusing to establish an exchange.


37 posted on 11/11/2012 1:45:04 PM PST by Kolath
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