Posted on 11/09/2012 5:14:03 PM PST by reed13k
Just a quick question on positive and negatives of each 30-06 vs 30-30. My understanding is there is only a slight difference in range, but what all the other potential factors? Your thoughts as I dig into the details in the books, mags, and websites.
4more years? My God just go get both. You’ll like them both for different reasons.
Nice summary Joe!
And a bolt-action is far superior to a lever in terms of accuracy.
If you are looking for an economical tack-driver, the Savage Edge is goes for around $270. They aren't the best-looking guns, but they are accurate and reliable.
I've got a really nice Marlin Model 1936 Serial # B6xxx that was passed down from my grandfather to my dad and now me........
No he is right. Brush bucking is a total myth.
I once read of a thorough test using small wooden dowels. No round was even close to going straight after hitting one.
The big heavy bullets such as 45-70 didn’t do any better than the light fast ones. That is counter-intuitive but it is a fact.
Can also get the Marlin in a .38 Special.
Thought about that since I have a Taurus Ultralight in 38 Spec and about 400 rounds already in the can.
In Indiana, you can use handgun caliber rifles
That’s what I grew up with as I’m a Hoosier native.
To quote Cuck Hawks
“The hunter owes it to the game he hunts to try to shoot through gaps in the surrounding foliage, or to wait for a clear shot. No one should intentionally try to drive a bullet though brush to kill an animal on the far side.”
http://www.chuckhawks.com/woods_rifles.htm
I’ve been thinking about getting a .44 Magnum lever action rifle. 2 or 3 companies make them including Marlin. I haven’t hunted in years but I’d just kinda like to have one.
For tubular magazine lever action rifles. For example, I have a BLR w/detachable mags.
A .44 magnum lever action is one heck of a nice combination. I used to have a Browning which was basically a copy of the 92 Winchester.
I loved it but my Father ended up trading me out of it. He then gave it to his grandson who is my Nephew.
Another one I wish I had back was an inexpensive H&R handi rifle in .357 maximum. That action is well suited to a rimmed pistol cartridge. It was also way more accurate than I was expecting. Little recoil yet was darn powerful out of that 20 inch barrel.
My two cents is that you make sure that whatever weapons you buy, try to standardize on the type of ammo that you will use. I have two Mini-14s that use 223 ammo and have several thousand rounds, but just as importantly is that this round will be easily scavenged. I have 22 rifles that fire 22 LR and Magnum cartridges which again are very common. As for handguns, pick them to use a standard and easily obtainable cartridge. Which ever caliber handguns you buy, make sure that you get a good supply of hollow points or high impact cartridges. You can get common ball cartridges for practice.
The .30/30 is a lever gun round. Do you want a lever gun? Lever guns are at their best for short range or medium range hunting. They handle fantastic without scopes, but for most people that limits effective hunting range to 100 yards.
The .30/06 can go a lot farther. It’s also more powerful, so it will hit harder. This only matters if you are going after large game like elk and bears. Most hunters would say a .30-06 is adequate for Brown Bear. Most would say the .30/30 is marginal.
The .30-06 is often listed as the best all around hunting cartridge in the world but magazine writers and experts. Hard to argue with that.
The .30/30 in “venerable”, but I’m pretty sure it’s not even the best lever action round, though its the most common.
The Browning BLR can take pointy bullets (becaues it has a box magazine where bullets are stacked on top of each other, and not a tubular magazine under the barrel where pointy bullets are at risk of setting each other off. The BLR can chamber .30-06, so could be the “best of both” worlds for you.
For dedicated lever rounds I’d go with either the .35 REM or the .44 Mag. Another interesting choice is the .444.
I’ve got a weird one for you. At some point the Navy re-chambered some M-1s in 7.62 NATO. Not sure when or why, but I was awarded one while I was in the Navy. It used the same clips as an M-1 in 30-06 and has a little plastic horseshoe at the front of the magazine. You can really tell the difference in recoil. The .308 is a lot lighter.
Very true.
Me, I have a .338 Lapua Magnum on my Christmas list.
And a scope like the Bushnell Elite Tactical3 12x44.
(Ain’t gonna happen, but a guy can dream, right?)
PS- Why? Because it is just so d*mned cool, that’s why.
-David
I’d say it depends on what you want to do with it. The .30-30 is generally a shorter range round- flat-nosed bullets in lever carbines generally are only effective to about 125-150 yards, while the .30-06 can reach out to 500 yards or more depending on the rifle.
They tried to get 30-06 power out of the shorter .308. To do so the upped the pressure and still did not quite equal the old 30-06.
If you reload then you can make the older 30-06 go up quite a bit over the .308.
Not that weird. That was essentially the Beretta BM-59, which the Italians adopted as their main battle rifle in the 50's. The did get away from the en bloc clips and modified them to take a conventional box magazine ending up with something that looked like a proto-M14.
Now THAT is funny!
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