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Need Advice on Purchase of Automatic Weapon

Posted on 11/09/2012 4:41:12 PM PST by Tail Gunner John

I have now gotten religion on the need to purchase my first automatic rifle. I have very little personal experience to draw upon in making my selection. I'm looking for an economical but reliable weapon. My goal is to buy the rifle and lay in a reasonable supply of ammunition for less than $1000. Any thoughts or advice would be greatly appreciated.


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To: Errant

It’s a b*tch trying to find spare barrels and replacement parts too. And my ammo bearer went off to college.


21 posted on 11/09/2012 5:07:01 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Tijeras_Slim; Tail Gunner John
According to US v. Rock Island Armory [in Illinois - the ATF declined to push it up the ladder for fear of losing that case, and therefore much of their power]:
In sum, since enactment of 18 U.S.C. § 922(o), the Secretary has refused to accept any tax payments to make or transfer a machinegun made after May 19, 1986, to approve any such making or transfer, or to register any such machinegun. As applied to machineguns made and possessed after May 19, 1986, the registration and other requirements of the National Firearms Act, Chapter 53 of the Internal Revenue Code, no longer serve any revenue purpose, and are impliedly repealed or are unconstitutional.

So, you might get them cheaper there.

22 posted on 11/09/2012 5:08:14 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Colt 6920 is an excellent choice. There was a smokin deal at
DSG Arms for $995. Elsewhere it is $1150. They told me the nite of the election they sold the 26 in stock and next day got 30 calls for more. Get on their system they will notify when it is back in. No doubt the best price evah for the 6920


23 posted on 11/09/2012 5:08:53 PM PST by Swanks
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To: Errant; All

A few notes to add...

It’s a federal crime to own an auto without the proper licensing which you much carry at all times with the weapon.

Many thousands to buy these. Converting a semi to full auto is a federal crime.

If the purchase is because of fear of where country is heading, these are tracked weapons. Be the first ones picked up if things fall apart. Any crime committed with a similar weapon means Feds will visit everyone with a similar weapon.

Full auto burns a TON of ammunition. Very fast. Not really suited for hunting or defensive purposes. You’d need a huge stockpile of ammo. It’s expensive. Also very inefficient.

Friend of mine has a collection - all properly licensed. You can burn through a dozen clips in thirty minutes going back and forth. Takes a long time to reload them.

Don’t think this is the direction for the original poster to go.


24 posted on 11/09/2012 5:12:47 PM PST by TigerClaws
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To: Tail Gunner John

I thought this was a thread about fully-automatic gins. Sorry.


25 posted on 11/09/2012 5:15:05 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Tail Gunner John

Walmart is now selling AR 15s.

http://www.walmart.com/search/search-ng.do?search_query=AR+15&ic=16_0&Find=Find&search_constraint=4125

I understand the scoped Sig Sauer M400 will be on sale on Black Friday for $800


26 posted on 11/09/2012 5:16:13 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Tail Gunner John

AK with a bumpfire stock is probably about as close as you can get to an auto for around $1000. But you probably just meant semi-auto, right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_SWefYWKw0


27 posted on 11/09/2012 5:16:13 PM PST by FreedomForce (Living in the Age of American Soft Despotism)
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To: Tail Gunner John
The first question is what brand of rifle do you prefer,do you know?A good place to start is slickgunsdotcom .They have user submitted deals from everywhere on every brand you can think of.They start at around 620 for the ones in stock,with the choice of DPMS or S&W and have it sent to your local FFL usually for about $25.At that price you can then go over to Natchezshooterssupply and pick up 1000 rds of federal American eagle ammo for $349.That keeps you just under your dollar target and “loaded for bear”.
28 posted on 11/09/2012 5:19:25 PM PST by makersmk2013
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To: TigerClaws
Ahh hell, we's just funnin' a little. ;)

Don't get a chance to do that much, lately...

29 posted on 11/09/2012 5:21:16 PM PST by Errant
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To: Tail Gunner John

Get yourself a well made AK-47. Not terribly expensive. Rock solid reliable. Inexpensive ammo. Now many would say they are not accurate. I suggest the AK-47 shoots straighter than most people can. I doubt you could get the great optics that can be obtained for the AR platform but I am not certain about that as I have not searched for any.


30 posted on 11/09/2012 5:26:21 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: smokingfrog
It’s a b*tch trying to find spare barrels and replacement parts too.

Shouldn't the barrels be pretty common? After all, the ATF's repeatedly said the lower-receiver of the M-16 is the 'machine-gun'.

31 posted on 11/09/2012 5:26:31 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: King Moonracer

Stick with a phased plasma rifle . . . something in the 40 watt range.


32 posted on 11/09/2012 5:27:15 PM PST by BipolarBob (I'm joining a Rastafarian cult group and moving to Jamaica.)
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To: FreedomForce

The AR bumpfire stock works much better.


33 posted on 11/09/2012 5:28:54 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: BipolarBob

LOL. I was kicking myself for not writing that first. Much better joke than mine.


34 posted on 11/09/2012 5:29:27 PM PST by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: mylife

Wonder if anyone has tried that type of stock on a Saiga shotgun. I’d like to see a video of that.


35 posted on 11/09/2012 5:33:18 PM PST by FreedomForce (Living in the Age of American Soft Despotism)
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To: Errant
The election is over. We can go back to being our obnoxious selves without fear of losing our heads to snapback. ;)

On topic.. I often refer to my autoloading rifles, shotguns and pistols as autoloaders, even though they only fire one round per trigger pull.

The revolvers and bolt action rifles, I mostly call 'tack-drivers'. The non-autoloading shotgun is called 'Clem' or the coach gun.

I wouldn't own a full auto in a caliber smaller than .20mm. Waste, in my opinion. Besides, I'm poor now, and don't run in those circles with guys that spend $5000US for a weekend of shooting anymore. ;)

/johnny

36 posted on 11/09/2012 5:33:24 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: King Moonracer

“I need a small thermo nuclear weapon.”

Birdman Weapons Systems has it:

http://www.google.com/imgres?q=birdman+weapon+systems&hl=en&sa=X&tbo=d&biw=1280&bih=670&tbm=isch&tbnid=yyv1RIhBobEWnM:&imgrefurl=http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php%3Ft%3D192916&docid=a8QLIr_YJj74AM&imgurl=http://www.thefiringline.com/library/gfx/Nuke50ad01large.jpg&w=500&h=634&ei=Yq6dUNnOIIWq2gW6xIGQAw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=115&vpy=134&dur=503&hovh=147&hovw=116&tx=97&ty=109&sig=105095880652551204484&page=1&tbnh=147&tbnw=116&start=0&ndsp=20&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0,i:77


37 posted on 11/09/2012 5:36:59 PM PST by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: FreedomForce

Yep. LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_W1pLT7xSA


38 posted on 11/09/2012 5:38:03 PM PST by FreedomForce (Living in the Age of American Soft Despotism)
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To: MikeSteelBe

Birdman also had the compact Barret .50, and the “homeboy” night sights:

http://www.reno4x4.com/forum/showthread.php/60015-Auth-Dealer-Birdman-Weapons-Systems!!!!


39 posted on 11/09/2012 5:41:49 PM PST by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: tacticalogic
Your tagline, juxtaposed with that comment, has a certain irony.

Cheers!

40 posted on 11/09/2012 5:42:12 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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