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Politics: Conservatives? Time to stop the whining. Tuesday was the siege of Charleston.
CainTV ^ | November 8, 2012 | Robert Laurie

Posted on 11/09/2012 11:02:18 AM PST by Twotone

On April 2nd 1780, British Lieutenant General Sir Henry Clinton led an overwhelming force as it lay siege to the city of Charleston, South Carolina. The ensuing violence lasted 40 days. When it was over, 5,200 Continental troops had been captured, 92 were killed, and 148 were wounded. The city was lost. It would go down in history as the worst U.S. defeat of the Revolutionary War.

As news of the loss spread, Americans complained that war was hard, there was no way to win, and that Liberty just wasn’t worth the hassle. So, they surrendered and we remain English to this day.

Oh wait…that’s not what happened, is it.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; History; Society
KEYWORDS: conservatives; hermancain
Something to buck up sagging spirits, my own included.
1 posted on 11/09/2012 11:02:26 AM PST by Twotone
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To: Twotone

The PEOPLE of Scotland are voting to be independent of Britain .So why can’t we have on our ballots for each state the right to vote for independence(secession)? Many of us in states voted for several amendments. Why can’t we vote for independence?

Scotland is voting to be independent of Britain : http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/4591474/Historic-deal-gives-Scots-vote-on-independence.html


2 posted on 11/09/2012 11:11:16 AM PST by Democrat_media (limit government to 5000 words of laws. how to limit gov Quantify limited government ...)
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To: Twotone

I’m not whining. I’m taking action.

Have already figured some ways to reduce my economic footprint so that Obama’s economy can get the treatment it deserves.

Hope you other FREEPers will join:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2956311/posts


3 posted on 11/09/2012 11:11:31 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Twotone
Yeah, but you didn't have George Washington, Nathaniel Green, or Francis Marion caving in to British demands that they cooperate on a bi-partisan level. The closer approximation to today's Republicans is Benedict "Chris Christie" Arnold. He knew how to be bi-partisan.
4 posted on 11/09/2012 11:11:48 AM PST by MuttTheHoople (Pray for Joe Biden- Proverbs 29:9)
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To: Democrat_media

Reducing my economic footprint by cutting back on services...started this right after the election! Our family has been notifying businesses that because of Obama’s continued hold onto power, we have to change our budget.

Our economic footprint is now down $247 a month...or $2,964 a year.


5 posted on 11/09/2012 11:13:39 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Twotone
Again we beaten conservatives are enjoined to "put on our Big Boy Pants". Classic.

I won't even bother to go into the reasons I believe we will never win in the current environment under the rules as they currently exist. Thats just what the left wnats us to do - we keep putting up our dukes to fight not only the democrats and the media, but the GOPe also. Well it doesn't work.

Our principles may ultimately prevail in this country, but right now I cannot see the way forward.

6 posted on 11/09/2012 11:17:02 AM PST by skeeter
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To: MuttTheHoople

True, we don’t have the likes of our Founders here today. But we still have some pretty good folks who are going to keep fighting the good fight.

All is not lost...yet.

At least, that’s what I’m telling myself.


7 posted on 11/09/2012 11:19:18 AM PST by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: Twotone

Sign me up!


8 posted on 11/09/2012 11:29:24 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Twotone

Sign me up!


9 posted on 11/09/2012 11:30:30 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: SoFloFreeper

I’m not whining. I’m taking action.

Have already figured some ways to reduce my economic footprint so that Obama’s economy can get the treatment it deserves.

Hope you other FREEPers will join:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2956311/posts

Take a look at this as well...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2957570/posts

Going Galt is not enough, Galt will only work with a currency tied to something of value, QE Infinity changed the rules...

The only real currency now is calories... Time to start mining calories.


10 posted on 11/09/2012 11:30:34 AM PST by GraceG
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To: GraceG

“Time to start mining calories”

Explain


11 posted on 11/09/2012 11:32:04 AM PST by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: Twotone

The Democrats had four years of buying votes and they still almost didn’t win the election. They aren’t that good. We’re just worse.

“If you know yourself and know your enemy, in one hundred battles, you will not be beaten.”

The first thing we have to understand is our enemy’s motivations. What EMOTIONS make them vote the way they do? And also, what self-interests do they see the Democrats meeting? The leaders of the Democrat party are just grifters. Look at the Clintons, Obama, Carville, Kerry, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi. They are all grifters. We know what motivates them. But what motivates the Democrat voters? It’s easy to sit back and say they’re stupid, but are they really? If they voted for Cap’n Crunch, they would be stupid. They vote for grifters. Why? We have to understand their emotions and motivations so we can defeat their grifter leaders.


12 posted on 11/09/2012 11:33:38 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: mo

“Time to start mining calories”

Explain

Start using the tools the collectivists gave us to mine calories from stores using EBT cards to buy canned sotrable foods and water etc...

Use the extra cash you save for re-inforcing the 2nd amendment rights....

This does two things...

1. It starves the beast quicker than going Galt...

2. It put you in a better position to re-build than the takers who live from day to day....

Atlas Shouldn’t Shrug, Atlas should get even!

If an army of dumbed down leeches takes 50 years to take down a system and collapse it...

Imagine what a group of producers who are pissed off and know hard work and are extremely motivated can do in 4 short years!


13 posted on 11/09/2012 11:40:55 AM PST by GraceG
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To: blueunicorn6
Listening to descriptions of how “Democrats got out their ground game” with “superior ability to bring those to the polls who normally would never go” by the commentators on Fox election night..made me realize..what they actually have done is track names that HAVE NOT VOTED IN MANY, MANY elections cycles....and vote them.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/23/No-Car-Finds-2-214-Registered-Voters-110-Years-of-Age-Older

A well-funded project, county-by-county..to examine the names signed in at at the polls..and going out to find those individuals..you’ll find they were never physically at he polls..or they themselves never filled out the absentee ballot....or their names in the death registers.

“not understanding Dems” is a liberal approach.

taking responsibility in each of our election precincts for assessing voter fraud, prosecuting it, instituting changes to prevent it and policing those changes is the solution.

the very real problem we face..is that the national GOP hasn't the ‘nads to do so..and they the Dems have now had two free passes in four years to believe they can continue do so with impunity.

14 posted on 11/09/2012 11:41:27 AM PST by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: Twotone
We need to double down on demands that 0bama be impeached for, among other things:

1) Dereliction of Duty during Benghazi:

0bama is a traitor for not coming to the aid of Americans in distress in Benghazi. Although we don't know exactly what Ambassador Stevens and Turkish Consul General Ali Sait Akin's meeting was about that night, we do know that the attack started 40 minutes following their meeting. THIS IS NOT A COINCIDENCE. This was a coordinated and retaliatory attack, based on results of this meeting being UNFAVORABLE to Turkey. Bear in mind that the President of Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan is ONE OF OBAMA'S CLOSEST FRIENDS!

OBAMA DID NOT SEND TROOPS TO KILL THE ATTACKERS BECAUSE HE DIDN'T WANT TO UPSET ONE OF HIS CLOSEST FRIENDS, THE PRESIDENT OF TURKEY. 0bama chose also, not to jeopardize his re-election bid with a possible failed rescue attempt (Typical of 0bama: POLITICS trumps everything!!)

2) Cover-Up

The false narrative that the event was a "protest over an Anti-Islam video" was a knowingly false 'cover story' to HIDE many 0bama administration failures, to include 0bama's failure to attend security briefings, the draw-down of security prior to the attack, denial of requests from Stevens for more security, weapons dealings with terrorist groups, 0bama's failure to send in a rescue team, and lastly to hide the fact a covert CIA annex was at that location.

Among other questions, UNDER OATH Susan Rice must be asked the "Who told you to say that the (terrorist attack) in Benghazi was a "protest over a YouTube video"???

15 posted on 11/09/2012 11:41:56 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Twotone

Tuesday was not April 2, 1780. It was July 3, 1863, and we were the guys in grey. Nevermind the fact that the Democrat party was the one fighting for slavery, but you know what I mean...

Anyway, many more battles are yet to take place, but the outcome is inevitable. We are past the tipping point. Romney was wrong about the 47%. It is now 51%. The dem strategy of impoverishing everyone they can and dropping them into their bag of welfare-dependent zombies has succeeded. They will now move swiftly to dismantle the economic infrastructure that might have led people to prosperity and independence and even more will fall into their camp.

You may be shocked to see how easily and comfortably people will be conditioned and settle into their lowered horizons, lessened and contrained lifestyle options and comprehensive government control over every aspect of their lives. We’ll be kept numb, entertained and indifferent through drugs, consequence-free sex, porn, professional sports, reality shows and celebrity gossip. In case you didn’t notice it, your public schools have been doing it to your children for two generations now, and for the past ten years agencies like the TSA have been doing it to adults. Look at what sheep we’ve become. Grown men and women playing ‘statues’ in the airport when some blue shirt slug yells ‘FREEZE!”

Obama is truly a towering historical figure who has presided over precisely what he said he’d do, fundamentally transform this country. He’s done it, achieved the liberal progressive dream. Gotta give him credit.


16 posted on 11/09/2012 12:02:29 PM PST by SargeK
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To: blueunicorn6

I think a lot of them vote based on perception. We’ve allowed the Dems/leftists to smear the GOP. We are not racists, we are the party that worked to free the slaves. We’re not the party of the rich, we’re the party that wants to see every individual succeed & enjoy the fruit of their success.

We need to spend a year doing ‘informational minutes’ on what the Republican Party/Conservatives are all about & get the message of our vision of the country out. And the year before the next election, start ads that say: Insanity is doing the same thing over & over & expecting a different result - with pictures of Pelosi, Schumer, Obama, etc... over the tag line.

We have to take back the message!


17 posted on 11/09/2012 12:04:57 PM PST by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: mo

I believe that I do understand the Democrats. I believe that they are entirely capable of cheating to win elections. It is my understanding that there are more people who claim to be Democrat than claim to be Republican, so, even if there is no cheating, and the Democrats run strong candidates and energize their base, they win. And, even if you do find cheating going on by the Democrats where you live, how will that make any difference if the media doesn’t report it?

“If you fail to understand yourself and your enemy, you will always be defeated.”


18 posted on 11/09/2012 12:10:39 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Twotone

MARK LEVIN: We conservatives, we do not accept bipartisanship in the pursuit of tyranny. Period. We will not negotiate the terms of our economic and political servitude. Period. We will not abandon our child to a dark and bleak future. We will not accept a fate that is alien to the legacy we inherited from every single future generation in this country. We will not accept social engineering by politicians and bureaucrats who treat us like lab rats, rather than self-sufficient human beings. There are those in this country who choose tyranny over liberty. They do not speak for us, 57 million of us who voted against this yesterday, and they do not get to dictate to us under our Constitution.

We are the alternative. We will resist. We’re not going to surrender to this. We will not be passive, we will not be compliant in our demise. We’re not good losers, you better believe we’re sore losers! A good loser is a loser forever. Now I hear we’re called ‘purists.’ Conservatives are called purists. The very people who keep nominating moderates, now call us purists the way the left calls us purists. Yeah, things like liberty, and property rights, individual sovereignty, and the Constitution, and capitalism. We’re purists now. And we have to hear this crap from conservatives, or pseudo-conservatives, Republicans.


19 posted on 11/09/2012 12:24:12 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: GraceG

Thanks!!!

Food for thought here....


20 posted on 11/09/2012 1:09:09 PM PST by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: Twotone

Thank you, fellow patriot. I needed that.


21 posted on 11/09/2012 1:39:50 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

“We” are so far past Bengazi you can’t even see it in the rear view mirror..
Get real Grasshopper..

1) the fats in the fire...
2) the horse has left the barn..
3) the post turtle is looking quite stupid...

Going on about Bengazi is like running the inventor Romney-Care against the inventor of Obama-care..

It didn’t work.. is not working, and will not work..
SLAP yerself and re-access your situation..

The election was rigged and so was Bengazi...
Do you watch ‘rastling on TV?.... Do you drool?..


22 posted on 11/09/2012 1:45:43 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Democrat_media

Except that Scotland voting to be independent of Britain is like Detroit voting to be independent of Michigan. England will be better off without them.


23 posted on 11/09/2012 1:47:12 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: hosepipe

Rigged President, rigged election. I get that. But hearings still to come on Benghazi. THE MEDIA ARE PROPAGANDISTS FOR THE SOCIALIST PARTY. I get that too. They + Voter fraud got 0bama elected. Even our OWN Congress got 0bama elected by not ‘being fair to the President so he could get elected’ instead of being outraged about Benghazi. Wouldn’t surprise me if our gov started the Hurricane, too.. As Plan B.


24 posted on 11/09/2012 1:49:35 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

You seem to have no idea of what just happened to federal givernment..

No free election will EVER happen again in AMerica..
Federal, State, OR Local.. might have been true for 10 years already..

And you want to obessess about Bengazi?.. NOW?..
Boehner was just on TV pleging to give away the farm..
You do know that the Senate has been totally controlled by democrats for 4 years.. and have even MORE controll NOW...

America will not be America in LESS THAN FOUR MORE YEARS..
probably less than ONE YEAR... maybe in two months..

Bengazi is a waste of time.. as is the “FAst and Furious debacle”..


25 posted on 11/09/2012 2:01:53 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Twotone

I agree.


26 posted on 11/09/2012 2:05:11 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: SargeK

It’s more than two generations. The modern school system — sit down, shut up, and listen — is a century old. By now nearly five generations have been through it. What’s worse, four generations of teachers have been through it, so they have very little to offer even to students who still have minds — except mind-numbing drugs.

Americans have been conditioned to follow orders for a long time, and they’re now pretty good at it. Most don’t have enough initiative to swat a fly, unless they’re told to, and how to do it.


27 posted on 11/09/2012 4:12:12 PM PST by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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