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11-8-12 | Refounder

Posted on 11/09/2012 10:50:28 AM PST by Siouxz

Dear FreeRepublic, I know this has been a difficult week. Most of us expected tuesday to go a little differently, and are left feeling robbed and shocked. Weds morning was interesting, I saw sorrow, despair, confusion and fear, and prayers. I am not saying those feelings were unfounded or wrong, I too feel a twinge of fear in my heart. What I am about to say, may momentarily offend some of you, I beg you let me finish my thoughts before your judgement. Firstly, may I suggest that Barry's re-election, may be EXACTLY what our country needs right now. A great awakening has begun in the last four years, and with obamas help and leadership, perhaps America will be forced to accept what the face of communism looks like. During the last year, I have watched my countrymen go from "certainly not romney" during the primaries, to Romney is the guy who is going to save us if we can just get him in there." In my opinion, this transition did not happen because Romney grew on us, it was because many realized that if it were not Romney, it would be us, it would be you. Too long have my countrymen put blind faith and votes into campaign promises and outright lies. Too long have we awaited the politician who would ride onto the scene on the proverbial white steed and solve our growing list of problems. Too long have we accepted the mundane life of our fathers america instead of striving for the America of our forefathers. Both parties have failed us, if not spent the last century activley trying to enslave us. (to my "republican" friends, let me just say "Patriot Act") Freedom is going to cost us more than donating $20 dollars to a Chimp-in-a-suit's campaign, (regardless, of race or party) or voting for aformentioned chimp in an election. Both parties have failed us, and we continue to play their game, by their rules, while they disregard us, and their rules. Their system has failed us and responibility rests squarely on our shoulders now. The ballot box was crushed by corruption, the soap box has been censored by controlled media, one left. I am not suggesting riots, murders, assassinations, ect. I am proposing to prepare, to begin organizing. History has shown us repetedly what is comming next, prepare spiritually, prepare physically, most important prepare mentally. Mentally prepare to meet violence, with violence. Because whats next is violence, with or without your preparations, or participation. Have faith in God, but not exclusively. The founders had faith in God, but they did not sit on their hands and wait for God to deliver them from evil. They used their God given rights, they defended them, they fought for them. Will you? I suggest everyone read Patrick Henry's liberty or death speech again, see what is at stake by sitting idly by in an illusion of hope and peace. Take comfort in knowing that Americans have been at this place before, and there are still Americans here now. All I want from you, isa for you to display the same confidence in yourself, as I have in you. It is the same confidence the founders had in us. God bless you, good luck, see you on the other side. THIS IS MY SOAPBOX


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1 posted on 11/09/2012 10:50:33 AM PST by Siouxz
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To: Siouxz

Very nice post.


2 posted on 11/09/2012 10:52:13 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: Siouxz
As my tagline said: "Keep fighting like we are 10% behind"

I made it my tagline because whenever I said it in a comment the RomneyBots called me a CONCERNED TROLL

3 posted on 11/09/2012 10:52:49 AM PST by tsowellfan (Allen West for Speaker!)
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To: Siouxz

What’s to be offended by? Makes a lot of sense.

Good luck to you.


4 posted on 11/09/2012 10:53:48 AM PST by x1stcav (Breathe deep the gathering gloom.)
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To: Siouxz

One can only conclude from the election results, that among the voters, they want more government and free stuff, and don’t seem to really care about jobs, the health of the economy, energy independence etc...


5 posted on 11/09/2012 10:54:36 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Siouxz

How about some paragraphs


6 posted on 11/09/2012 10:56:12 AM PST by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: Siouxz
I can't really improve one what you said, with the exception of suggesting paragraphs:)

I think many of us are experiencing paradigm shifts in our perspectives - and thats good. Because as you said we have put our faith in what sadly turns out to be an illusion for too long. You can't start back from the abyss using a fantasy for a compass.

7 posted on 11/09/2012 10:56:13 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Siouxz
1. We were told in 2008 that if we elect another Carter, we would get Reagan in 2012 - Did not happen. I warned people about this kind of thinking in 2008 and was accused of trying to scare people in voting for McCain.

2. We were told in 2012 that obamacare decison would rally the tea party in Fall - Did not happen.

3. Now we are being told that this blessing in disguise.

Eventually we are going to have to win.
8 posted on 11/09/2012 10:56:41 AM PST by Perdogg (Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA4) for President 2016)
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To: Siouxz

Actually lots of countries have become worthless socialist piles of crap without a lot of violence. As in Europe. Please don’t nit pick, he is talking about real revolutionary violence.

No we just are becoming a pile of crap, to be ruled by not only the money takers, but the drug takers too.

Now, a war will happen because of the weakness and stupidity of leftists and then millions will die. But hey, we had our hero FDR because no one else could have won that war, and damn Herbert Hoover to hell. /s


9 posted on 11/09/2012 10:56:45 AM PST by Andrei Bulba (No Obama, no way!)
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To: Siouxz

paragraph formatting is your friend


10 posted on 11/09/2012 10:58:37 AM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: Siouxz

WB Yeats - The Second Coming

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?


11 posted on 11/09/2012 10:59:13 AM PST by golux
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To: Perdogg
We were told in 2008 that if we elect another Carter, we would get Reagan in 2012

We have to nominate one before we get one.

12 posted on 11/09/2012 11:00:47 AM PST by tsowellfan (Allen West for Speaker!)
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To: Siouxz

You have had a breakthrough. Excellent comments, and excellent understanding of where we are at in the bigger picture.

Blessings


13 posted on 11/09/2012 11:00:47 AM PST by tired&retired
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To: Siouxz

Good posts even without paragraphs.


14 posted on 11/09/2012 11:01:23 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Siouxz

How about letting the Democrats win ALL House and Senate seats the next two years?? That’ll really SHOW ‘EM!!!


15 posted on 11/09/2012 11:02:18 AM PST by MuttTheHoople (Pray for Joe Biden- Proverbs 29:9)
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To: Siouxz

Buying our guns, stocking up up food for last 3 years, we’re getting ready! Robbery will be out of control when people get desperate, the gubment can’t possibly pay unemployment for all these layoffs!


16 posted on 11/09/2012 11:02:23 AM PST by blondee123 (DICTATORSHIP HAS ARRIVED! Nov. 6, 2012)
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To: Siouxz

I am going to fight, especially at the state level, but I certainly do not agree that an 0bama victory is something that the country needs anymore than I believe that it is good for someone to get cancer.


17 posted on 11/09/2012 11:02:34 AM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
No, one can conclude from the election results that more than half people saw no difference between the candidates of the republicans and democrats.
They were right: Romney and Obama are both socialists.
18 posted on 11/09/2012 11:03:17 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Perdogg

Truly, if Archangel Michael had been on the ballot against Obama, Obama still would have won. We are where we are supposed to be.


19 posted on 11/09/2012 11:03:47 AM PST by tired&retired
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

i dont believe this is what America wants, I think we just had an educational crash course on what an Iraqi election looks like from the inside out. Now, as for freebies, if my enemy had an artillery peice, i needed, i would go and get it. why should i feel differently about foodstamps? i know people with two months of beans and rice, paid for by their enemy. bleed these bastards dry. they take your money and spend it on creative ways to screw you. mabey it would loosen up just enough money temporarily for us to buy bullets.


20 posted on 11/09/2012 11:03:54 AM PST by Siouxz
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To: RIghtwardHo

could have used a few paragraph breaks..


21 posted on 11/09/2012 11:04:01 AM PST by brivette
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To: Siouxz
Nicely written.

However, our country is unlikely to survive until the next election. I don't need to go into all the details. Get ready to be autonomous and plan for the future of your family and close friends. The SCOTUS is about to flip, and with it our last bastion of normalcy and civility.

Congress will not save us.

The military will not save us. The upper-echelon purges have been underway.

State government (in most cases) will not save us.

God will not save us (as a nation), we have sunken to depths of depravity that 30 years ago was unthinkable. And we are about to openly and actively side with Israel's enemies....that ensures our demise.

All we can do now, is to get our own houses in order and await the storm that is about to hit.

22 posted on 11/09/2012 11:04:34 AM PST by thescourged1
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To: Siouxz

There is one very important word in your post “organized”. We are not very organized. It will take vision to come back from this. A vision that will inspire, will motivate people into action. It is the one major element we seem to lack and it is that something that will move us to organize under a common ambition. So what might be some suggestions? What does everyone see in a future where hard work, technology and liberty go hand in hand. What might that world look like? What might our educational system look like?

It’s something we need to get together on because if we cannot state where we are going we cannot draw up a road map of how to get there.


23 posted on 11/09/2012 11:04:37 AM PST by formosa (consider me galt)
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To: Siouxz

>>Firstly, may I suggest that Barry’s re-election, may be EXACTLY what our country needs right now. A great awakening has begun in the last four years, and with obamas help and leadership, perhaps America will be forced to accept what the face of communism looks like

Firstly may I suggest that Obama’s win over McCain may be EXACTLY what our country needs right now.
Firstly may I suggest that Obama’s win over Romney may be
EXACTLY what our country needs right now.

Firstly may I suggest that Hillary’s win over Ryan may be
EXACTLY what our country needs right now.
Firstly may I suggest Hillary’s re-election over Brown
may be EXACTLY what our country needs right now.
Firstly may I suggest Elizabeth Warren’s win over
Santorum may be EXACTLY what our country needs right now.
Firstly may I suggest President Warren’s re-election over
Sarah Palin may be EXACTLY what our country needs right now.

Firstly may I suggest Al Franken’s win over...


24 posted on 11/09/2012 11:05:57 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: Siouxz

Formatting is really a friend....

I can’t read that and many more wont.


25 posted on 11/09/2012 11:06:11 AM PST by Rightly Biased (Avenge me Girls AVENEGE ME!!!! ( I don't have any son's))
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To: Rightly Biased

Love your tag line


26 posted on 11/09/2012 11:07:45 AM PST by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: Rightly Biased

>>organized

Organized means the letter p between brackets in HTML
every now and then.


27 posted on 11/09/2012 11:07:47 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: Siouxz
Some here might not be old enough to have lived this as I have but...the Rat Party's grand plan was launched in the mid 1960’s.It consisted of “The War On Poverty” and “Immigration Reform”.Both strategies are winning and seem to be on the verge of complete victory.I just found this on wikiquotes the other day and I strongly fear that it will prove true for this country.I firmly believe that we're well on the way to completing Step #7.(Don't know the ultimate source of this piece).

“A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:
From bondage to spiritual faith;
From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to complacency;
From complacency to apathy;
From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back into bondage”.

28 posted on 11/09/2012 11:08:16 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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To: tsowellfan

One has to run, before we nominate him.


29 posted on 11/09/2012 11:08:24 AM PST by Perdogg (Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA4) for President 2016)
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To: Siouxz; All

Scotland is voting to be independent of Britain .So why can’t we have on our ballots for each state the right to vote for independence(secession)? Many of us in states voted for several amendments. Why can’t we vote for independence?

Scotland is voting to be independent of Britain : http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/4591474/Historic-deal-gives-Scots-vote-on-independence.html


30 posted on 11/09/2012 11:08:28 AM PST by Democrat_media (limit government to 5000 words of laws. how to limit gov Quantify limited government ...)
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To: Siouxz
there is no doubt that the system is rigged in favor of a ruling class whose constituencies are lobbyists, unions, and the needy.

Democracy requires a moral population to function correctly. With every passing generation we become more corrupted, and I think we just moved passed a bright line.

31 posted on 11/09/2012 11:11:12 AM PST by oldbrowser (Welcome to U.S.Zimbabwe)
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To: brivette
Dear FreeRepublic, I know this has been a difficult week. Most of us expected tuesday to go a little differently, and are left feeling robbed and shocked. Weds morning was interesting, I saw sorrow, despair, confusion and fear, and prayers. I am not saying those feelings were unfounded or wrong, I too feel a twinge of fear in my heart. What I am about to say, may momentarily offend some of you, I beg you let me finish my thoughts before your judgement.

Firstly, may I suggest that Barry's re-election, may be EXACTLY what our country needs right now. A great awakening has begun in the last four years, and with obamas help and leadership, perhaps America will be forced to accept what the face of communism looks like. During the last year, I have watched my countrymen go from "certainly not romney" during the primaries, to Romney is the guy who is going to save us if we can just get him in there."

In my opinion, this transition did not happen because Romney grew on us, it was because many realized that if it were not Romney, it would be us, it would be you. Too long have my countrymen put blind faith and votes into campaign promises and outright lies.

Too long have we awaited the politician who would ride onto the scene on the proverbial white steed and solve our growing list of problems. Too long have we accepted the mundane life of our fathers america instead of striving for the America of our forefathers.

Both parties have failed us, if not spent the last century activley trying to enslave us. (to my "republican" friends, let me just say "Patriot Act") Freedom is going to cost us more than donating $20 dollars to a Chimp-in-a-suit's campaign, (regardless, of race or party) or voting for aformentioned chimp in an election. Both parties have failed us, and we continue to play their game, by their rules, while they disregard us, and their rules.

Their system has failed us and responibility rests squarely on our shoulders now. The ballot box was crushed by corruption, the soap box has been censored by controlled media, one left. I am not suggesting riots, murders, assassinations, ect. I am proposing to prepare, to begin organizing. History has shown us repetedly what is comming next, prepare spiritually, prepare physically, most important prepare mentally.

Mentally prepare to meet violence, with violence. Because whats next is violence, with or without your preparations, or participation. Have faith in God, but not exclusively. The founders had faith in God, but they did not sit on their hands and wait for God to deliver them from evil.

They used their God given rights, they defended them, they fought for them. Will you? I suggest everyone read Patrick Henry's liberty or death speech again, see what is at stake by sitting idly by in an illusion of hope and peace.

Take comfort in knowing that Americans have been at this place before, and there are still Americans here now. All I want from you, isa for you to display the same confidence in yourself, as I have in you.

It is the same confidence the founders had in us. God bless you, good luck, see you on the other side. THIS IS MY SOAPBOX

32 posted on 11/09/2012 11:13:14 AM PST by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: al baby

Re Tagline
thanks Al Baby.

It hit me last night when I thought about where we going...I could see myself Like Jeb’s dad behind that fence hoping my 3 teenage girls would continue the fight for what I always held so dear...


33 posted on 11/09/2012 11:14:58 AM PST by Rightly Biased (Avenge me Girls AVENEGE ME!!!! ( I don't have any son's))
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To: raccoonradio

Heck even one or two woulda been nice.

And Sioux has been here longenough to know better they were here back in the know HTML or don’t post or reply days...

“Would someone PLEASE turn off the italics?”


34 posted on 11/09/2012 11:16:41 AM PST by Rightly Biased (Avenge me Girls AVENEGE ME!!!! ( I don't have any son's))
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To: brivette

may i apologize for the lack of paragraphs, this was done on primitive, crap tech. a crappy old cellphone. lol may i just say in response to the cancer statement above, that there have been people warning us for a hundred years about for lack of a better example, smoking causes cancer. we have disregarded those warnings. we continued to smoke, hoping that by the time we got diagnosed with lung cancer, someone would have come up with a quick cure, so we could smoke, and not face the consequenses. well, tuesday we were diagnosed with a potentially terminal case of lung cancer. obama is the doctor who diagnosed us, now we have the information we need to make the decision weather or not we fight, or die. we can excise it or die from it, i dont wish cancer on anyone, but if you have it, its better to know about it. obama has shoved our cancer in our face.


35 posted on 11/09/2012 11:17:05 AM PST by Siouxz
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To: Siouxz

I kinda fixed it for ya good read thank you


36 posted on 11/09/2012 11:23:15 AM PST by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: Gay State Conservative

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Fraser_Tytler


37 posted on 11/09/2012 11:23:44 AM PST by upchuck (We are not finished yet. But when nobama chooses some more SCOTUS judges, we will be. For ever.)
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To: Siouxz

0bama’s puppet masters plan is right on schedule. Economic collapse will lead to violent civil unrest. The frightened sheeple will beg 0bama to save them. He will then declare martial law, suspend the Constitution and declare himself El Presidente-for-Life. Game over.


38 posted on 11/09/2012 11:27:42 AM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Siouxz

“We are here to be a restraining force to evil through the power of the Holy Spirit. We are not called to restrain evil through the political process (no matter what the party); that will never work. This is a spiritual battle, and it is only through spiritual weapons that we have any hope of success.” From Living Water by Chuck Smith


39 posted on 11/09/2012 11:28:32 AM PST by Luke646
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To: Andrei Bulba
American children have been educated for 100 years to be mind-numbed robots following orders. It worked, and will take a long time to undo.

It took the Russians 70 years to get rid of the Communists. And even after that they're still under the thumb of Putin.

Revolutions rarely turn out well. The American Revolution is the exception. If the British had had TSA and security cameras on every corner, it probably would have turned out different.

40 posted on 11/09/2012 11:29:16 AM PST by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: al baby

thank you.


41 posted on 11/09/2012 11:29:44 AM PST by brivette
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To: Siouxz
I'm with you Siouxz, as long as you're not a fake Siouxz. (Kidding - another fake Indian joke for those of us from MA)

All I want from you, is for you to display the same confidence in yourself, as I have in you.

Yesterday, it was not received well by some, though few responded at all, that I recommended Howard Roark over Hank Readen, just for now. Maybe it sounded like I was pontificating.

What's just happened, which is a reflection of others and not ourselves, need not penetrate to the core of us, or cause any self doubt. If anything defines liberty in the history of man in relation to government, it's that liberty is usually the enemy.

FYI ... all you need to do to create paragraphs is start each paragraph with the <p> tag. You don't need to do that if you use zero HTML, but once you use any html ... you have to specify HTML throughout, the primary consequence of not doing so is that your entire post runs together.

42 posted on 11/09/2012 11:30:09 AM PST by HannibalHamlinJr
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To: SVTCobra03

i know not what path other men may choose, but as for me, i will not be a sheeple begging for their help. and i know that there are many more like me.


43 posted on 11/09/2012 11:31:56 AM PST by Siouxz
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To: Siouxz

You typed that all on a cell phone?

Never Mind then you are awesome!!!

my goodness that took ya some time.


44 posted on 11/09/2012 11:33:08 AM PST by Rightly Biased (Avenge me Girls AVENEGE ME!!!! ( I don't have any son's))
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To: MuttTheHoople

In my opinion, the election was stolen by voter fraud. Until the voter fraud that was just perpetrated is exposed and prosecuted, we’re screwed.


45 posted on 11/09/2012 11:38:15 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Siouxz

OK. Tell me what you know about socialism or communism. If everyone is going to be afraid of it and think the Democrats are going to impose it on us, then I need to know what Republicans think socialism or communism looks like and how it comes about. I had to read Karl Marx’s baloney. I’ve been around real socialists and communists. They don’t look or act like the Democrats. The Democrat leadership is just a bunch of grifters.


46 posted on 11/09/2012 11:41:02 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Democrat_media

I agree there has to be a physical place where we can go and form the governement we desire. Probably the last best hope for freedom is independence (sucession).


47 posted on 11/09/2012 11:46:37 AM PST by rlferny
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To: Luke646

Agree completely. The problem in this country is it’s moral decay. God judges nations and we shall be judged. People lost sight of the fact that the little things you do every single day, matter on a grand scale. Helping your neighbor, volunteering at the local mission, taking your kids to church. It matters for society. We lost that. Now we must prepare spirtually for the fallout.


48 posted on 11/09/2012 11:50:44 AM PST by rlferny
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To: blueunicorn6

when i look at our situation, i see a pendulum, at the top of one side of the swing is the repubs, and on the dems. every four or eight years sheeple decide they have had enough of one party or the other, nothing gets reversed, and when the next batch get in, they just continue the agenda. repubs spend money on police states and the military’s illegal practices. (not the troops or legit spending. they didnt have body armor under bush either, rember?) and when the sheeple get tired of that, they elect the guys who while dismantling the legit aspects of military and police, they leave the illegitimate parts, and spend all that “saved” money on welfare programs and destroying our infastructue. clinton, nafta gap, bush, patriot act and tsa, homeland sec. obama, tarp, immagration, ect, and nobody undid the illegitimate crap of the admin before them.


49 posted on 11/09/2012 11:51:10 AM PST by Siouxz
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To: Perdogg

I’m with you — and I don’t believe things have to get worse before they get better. Al Gore and a lot of radicals believe in breaking things down to rebuild them.

One look at Europe’s history shows that overcoming addiction to welfare is next to impossible. Maybe it is mankind’s natural condition, as the Leftie elites believe.


50 posted on 11/09/2012 11:51:32 AM PST by sockhead (Socialism: trickle up poverty.)
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