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Confused about slugs - vanity

Posted on 11/08/2012 8:39:04 PM PST by Westchester

I have a Mossberg 535 with the standard smooth barrel that comes with the purchase of the gun. What slugs do I buy for it? Several sources say a smooth barrel is just fine for rifled slugs, while others seem to indicate I would need to buy a different barrel.

Thank you.


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1 posted on 11/08/2012 8:39:07 PM PST by Westchester
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To: Westchester

The slugs are rifled so your barrel doesn’t need to be.


2 posted on 11/08/2012 8:41:34 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: Westchester

you can shoot slugs in a smoothbore shotgun, the only thing that i ever heard of being rifled in a shotgun is the choke. by definition all shotguns are smoothbore, i think.
why would you shoot slugs? better buckshot or turkey shot for something up close.


3 posted on 11/08/2012 8:41:57 PM PST by beebuster2000
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To: Westchester

4 posted on 11/08/2012 8:43:55 PM PST by stormer
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To: beebuster2000
Rifled barrels are available for shotguns. The recommended rounds use a sabot to prevent fouling and also allow smaller aero shaped bullets.

I never cease to be amazed at the variety of shotguns rounds available.

5 posted on 11/08/2012 8:45:03 PM PST by Paladin2 (.)
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To: Westchester

6 posted on 11/08/2012 8:50:11 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: beebuster2000
The Federal 12ga slugs w/'flight control wad' are awesome..

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot45_3.htm

7 posted on 11/08/2012 8:53:41 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Westchester

Does anyone know if there are factory slug loads for a 28ga.?


8 posted on 11/08/2012 8:55:23 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: Westchester

Consider German-made Brenneke slugs. These are wadcutter-shaped with a sharp shoulder and integral rifling. When they were tested by the Alaska Dept of Fish and Feathers in the 1980’s they reliably punched a .60 caliber hole in every Brown Bear skull they fired at. If they’ll take out a Brown Bear imagine how well they will work on obamazombies.

Alternatively you could use the Centurion load available from vendors like Cheaper Than Dirt or Sportsman’s Guide. These combine 6 x .30 caliber buckshot balls with a single .60 caliber ball. They are devastating on target.

Don’t pussyfoot around - use the most destructive load you can get.


9 posted on 11/08/2012 8:56:18 PM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: Westchester

What are you going to shoot? Deer, Hogs, or Zombies?


10 posted on 11/08/2012 9:00:32 PM PST by deweyfrank
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To: stormer

LOL! When I saw the title of this thread I thought the same thing!


11 posted on 11/08/2012 9:02:25 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (The parasites now outnumber the producers.)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

“flight control wad”

Marking for later lewd retort.


12 posted on 11/08/2012 9:02:40 PM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Those are indeed some impressive slugs.


13 posted on 11/08/2012 9:04:57 PM PST by Jeff Winston
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To: beebuster2000

You are incorrect.

My Mossberg 500 came with two barrels, one smooth, one rifled.


14 posted on 11/08/2012 9:05:12 PM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: stormer

Those would be kinda messy with a high icky factor.


15 posted on 11/08/2012 9:07:57 PM PST by Conservative4Ever (I'm going Galt.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Ewwwwwwww (shudder) :-)


16 posted on 11/08/2012 9:09:01 PM PST by Conservative4Ever (I'm going Galt.)
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To: Westchester

You can shoot any slug in that barrel.


17 posted on 11/08/2012 9:09:37 PM PST by 'smith
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To: Westchester

I always prefer a salt shaker for my slugs...........


18 posted on 11/08/2012 9:09:47 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: Westchester

Rifled slugs are for smooth bore guns but they do not spin in the barrel. they may have no reason at all but I have read they help the slug go through a choked barrel.


19 posted on 11/08/2012 9:10:25 PM PST by yarddog
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Salt shaker anyone?


20 posted on 11/08/2012 9:10:25 PM PST by jughandle
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To: Westchester

Well, if you leave beer out in a shallow dish in your garden overnight there’ll be slugs in it in the morning... ;)

But seriously, just look at the packaging — lots of slugs are rifled so that your shotgun doesn’t need to be.


21 posted on 11/08/2012 9:10:50 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Westchester

Rifled slugs will fire fine, they are like a badmitten birdie with the weight forward/plastic in the back end and with vanes that will make it spin in the air for better accuracy.

The slugs that need a rifled barrel are the sabot slugs. These are like a rifle bullet in a plastic holder. There is nothing to make it spin except being forced through the twist of a rifled barrel. You could shoot one out of a smooth bore, but it would tumble and would not be accurate.


22 posted on 11/08/2012 9:12:48 PM PST by MtnClimber (I did not vote for Zer0. Someone else did that.)
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To: muir_redwoods

Here’s a link to 28g slugs.

http://deadendfirearms.com/catalog_detail.php?product_id=17742


23 posted on 11/08/2012 9:12:55 PM PST by 'smith
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To: Westchester

Use a Foster type slug or “rifled slug” in a smooth bore.

(The advice on the Brenneke is good.)

DO NOT use sabot slugs in a smooth bore. They will keyhole and be very inaccurate.

Most shotgun slug boxes will say right on them for use in smooth barrel shotguns.


24 posted on 11/08/2012 9:15:02 PM PST by 2111USMC (aim small, miss small)
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To: Westchester

I was told not to use rifled slugs in my smooth bore tac mag, because the slugs can actually begin to rifle your barrel as they pass through it, which can result in a ricochet inside the barrel when firing pellets or buckshot out of it.

I will only use 00 or 000 buckshot out of the smoothbore as a result of that information.


25 posted on 11/08/2012 9:17:05 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Westchester

If your barrel has a removeable choke you can get a rifled choke. This will drastically shrink your groups w/slugs. The rifled choke tube is much cheaper than a complete rifled barrel but accomplishes the same thing. Compared to slugs in a smoothbore barrel my rifled choke will give me tighter groups at 100 yds w/sabot rounds than the slugs at 50 yds in the smoothbore.


26 posted on 11/08/2012 9:17:52 PM PST by E.Allen
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To: beebuster2000

You can get a fully-rifled barrel for most popular shotguns.


27 posted on 11/08/2012 9:21:57 PM PST by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: Westchester

I thought you were talking about Obama voters.


28 posted on 11/08/2012 9:25:17 PM PST by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, the Catholic Church is illegal.)
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To: chris37

“I was told not to use rifled slugs in my smooth bore tac mag, because the slugs can actually begin to rifle your barrel as they pass through it...”

That is not possible. Shotgun slugs are made of soft lead. Shotgun barrels are made of hard steel. Whoever told you that is mistaken.


29 posted on 11/08/2012 9:40:23 PM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: Paladin2
Rifled barrels are available for shotguns. The recommended rounds use a sabot to prevent fouling and also allow smaller aero shaped bullets.

If you need a moderate to long range slug use a rifle. If you need a short range slug with great knock down power, use a rifle or a shotgun with slugs. If you are hunting small animals or birds, use a shotgun.

30 posted on 11/08/2012 9:44:11 PM PST by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: 43north

It was the guy behind the gun counter at Academy sports where I was looking for slugs at the time.


31 posted on 11/08/2012 9:49:43 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Westchester
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32 posted on 11/08/2012 10:02:10 PM PST by atomic_dog
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To: chris37

Thats just not accurate info. Lead -does not- cut grooves into steel. Also, the slug is not spinning inside the smoothbore. And your buckshot is not richocheting around inside the barrel, it is riding in the shot cup and is surrounded by that micro styrofoam buffering material.

The only potential way to damage your smoothbore barrel with a slug is if you have a choke on it. But on cylinder or improved cylinder, you will never hurt it with slugs.


33 posted on 11/08/2012 11:08:15 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: chris37

http://www.stu-offroad.com/firearms/patterntest/buck1-3.htm

Heres a great photo series that shows the innards on the 00 buckshot shell. You can see that white buffering material, and the shot cup that the buckshot rides in. That whole inner plastic cup flies down the barrel as an intact unit.
Thats why there can be no ricochets inside the barrel as that guy warned you.

As it clears the barrel, the plastic opens up like fins on a snake-eye bomb, and the shot is freed.

Oh, and that white granular stuff isn’t truly styrofoam, but it reminds me of it.

My guess about him thinking it can “rifle” the barrel was that he saw streaks of grime and lead fouling in a dirty barrel and decided it was rifled or etched by the slugs.
It was just dirty and a good cleaning will have it as good as new. Those plastic cups will leave a similar appearing fouling after a while.


34 posted on 11/08/2012 11:19:21 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Nailbiter

bflr


35 posted on 11/08/2012 11:51:46 PM PST by Nailbiter
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To: Westchester

Barrels are somewhat individual, some do a decent job with slugs while others put them all over the place. You will just have to experiment with different types and brands.


36 posted on 11/09/2012 5:54:41 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: beebuster2000

They now make fully rifled slug barrels.


37 posted on 11/09/2012 5:55:48 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Westchester

I found that Brenneke rifled slugs are amazingly accurate from my 1953 Belgian Browning A5. If you are going to be hunting in woods you aren’t going to be taking 200-yard shots.


38 posted on 11/09/2012 6:04:38 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the psychopath.)
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To: DesertRhino

Excellent, I really appreciate the information. I had never heard anything like this before as far as slug rifling a smoothbore, but I thought better safe than sorry.

But now I think I’ll get some slugs.


39 posted on 11/09/2012 6:22:49 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: atomic_dog

good god


40 posted on 11/09/2012 6:37:33 AM PST by beebuster2000
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To: beebuster2000
why would you shoot slugs?

Blue helmets at close range?

41 posted on 11/09/2012 7:51:59 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: chris37

I rarely believe ANYTHING a clerk at a gun store tells me. Too many “gun store commandos”.


42 posted on 11/09/2012 9:55:34 AM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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