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Boehner Strikes Conciliatory Tone in Talk of Fiscal Cliff
New york times ^ | November 7, 2012 | JONATHAN WEISMAN and JACKIE CALMES

Posted on 11/08/2012 6:19:07 PM PST by RC one

The House speaker, John A. Boehner of Ohio, striking a conciliatory tone a day after the Republican Party’s electoral drubbing, said on Wednesday that he was ready to accept a budget deal that raises federal revenue as long as it is linked to an overhaul of entitlements and a reform of the tax code that closes loopholes, curtails or eliminates deductions and lowers income tax rates.

Mr. Boehner’s gesture was the most explicit offer he has made to avert the “fiscal cliff” in January, when billions of dollars in tax increases and automatic spending cuts go into force. And it came hours after Senator Harry Reid of Nevada, the majority leader, offered his own olive branch, saying “it’s better to dance than to fight.”

But Democrats and Republicans are still far apart. Mr. Boehner made it clear that his vision for additional revenue includes a tax code that lowers even the top income tax rate from where it is now, 35 percent, not where it would be in January when the Bush-era tax cuts are set to expire — 39.6 percent. At least some of that additional revenue would come from economic growth that he said would be fueled by a simpler tax code.

Senator Charles E. Schumer of New York, the third-ranking Democrat, has said those constructs are unacceptable. Democratic leaders say tax reform that lowers tax rates across the board would either hurt the middle class by trimming vital tax benefits like the home mortgage deduction or would not raise enough taxes to meaningfully reduce the deficit. Mr. Reid underscored Mr. Obama’s contention that tax rates on the rich must rise, saying “the vast majority of Americans” support that, “including rich people.”

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We do not want to own this.
1 posted on 11/08/2012 6:19:09 PM PST by RC one
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To: RC one

Bend over.... here it comes.


2 posted on 11/08/2012 6:24:00 PM PST by Third Person (I'm in my prime.)
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To: RC one

Do nothing. Let the Bush tax cuts expire. Let the budget sequestration go through. Refuse to raise the debt ceiling ever. Watch Obama’s Amerika go down in flames.

BURN BABY BURN!


3 posted on 11/08/2012 6:25:11 PM PST by Thane_Banquo
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To: Thane_Banquo

0bama will probably just decree that the debt ceiling is raised and Boehner and McConnell will do nothing. BTW - Whatever happened to Holder’s contempt of Congress over Fast and Furious?


4 posted on 11/08/2012 6:30:11 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Never Underestimate the Power of Evil or Evil Doers)
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To: Thane_Banquo

watch everything you ever cared about burn with it. No thanks. If it has to burn, than so be it but it can’t be our fault.


5 posted on 11/08/2012 6:30:30 PM PST by RC one (Akin/Mourdock-2016)
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To: RC one

They had better do something or loads of servicemen that have been fighting wars for 10 years will get whacked come Jan 1


6 posted on 11/08/2012 6:32:47 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Thane_Banquo

Exactly. Stall, stall, stall. Run down the clock. Encourage Obama to take Madame Michelle on lots of outings. Act nice. Act bored act anyway that will waste time until the end of 2012.


7 posted on 11/08/2012 6:35:31 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: RC one

The election is barely over and this guy is waving the white flag for everything. I think he got a speaker’s gavel that doubles as a surrender flag, and it has pop-out tissues because you never know when you need a good cry.


8 posted on 11/08/2012 6:38:26 PM PST by Moorings
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To: RC one

Boehner won’t get what he wants—or says he wants; then he’ll cry, fix a drink and go to a corner.

I don’t want anyone to pay his lousy salary ANYMORE.


9 posted on 11/08/2012 6:41:28 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: RC one

Boehner is NOT a Conservative. The House is NOT Conservative. The Senate is absolutely NOT Conservative. The President is NOT Conservative.

Let’s see, the outcome is going to be what?


10 posted on 11/08/2012 6:41:33 PM PST by Deagle (quo)
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To: RC one
watch everything you ever cared about burn with it

Like they'll let you keep any of it anyway, when they fully consolidate power.

11 posted on 11/08/2012 6:44:58 PM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Third Person

There is a word for that. BOHICA
Bend Over , Here It Comes Again.

I believe it is Boehners Motto.

As Speaker of the House, he is a great dissappointment. The only time we ever hear from him is when he is making another ass-kissing deal.


12 posted on 11/08/2012 6:52:49 PM PST by Venturer
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To: RC one

It is dishonorable to be in debt the way this country is. - Illegal immigration is dishonorable and unfair to those immigrants, past and present, who came here legally and did what they were supposed to do. - Killing babies is dishonorable and murder. - Sloth is dishonorable. - Sodomy is dishonorable and declared sin by God’s laws in both the old and new Testaments. - Now, they have been elected by those who want to be given everything and assured their actions are just OK. . by everyone . . or else . . . Sorry; no can do.


13 posted on 11/08/2012 6:53:09 PM PST by Twinkie (REMEMBER BENGHAZI !!!!)
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To: Twinkie

Oh, and Obama does NOT have a Mandate; although he apparently thinks he does.


14 posted on 11/08/2012 6:55:11 PM PST by Twinkie (OBAMA DOES NOT HAVE A MANDATE!!!!)
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To: Moorings

He’s a surrender monkey.

Throw him out of the Speakership. Pack your box and get out of here Boehner.


15 posted on 11/08/2012 6:56:11 PM PST by Ray76
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To: Moorings

You know what the biggest difference is between Boehner and all those other republican candidates that recently ran for congress and Senate? he’s a winner and they’re losers.


17 posted on 11/08/2012 7:06:55 PM PST by RC one (Akin/Mourdock-2016)
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To: Mamzelle

Have you forgotten Valerie Jarrett?


18 posted on 11/08/2012 7:08:12 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: RC one; All
I don't care for the weeper of the house either, but he was ready to accept a budget deal that raises federal revenue as long as it is linked to an overhaul of entitlements and a reform of the tax code that closes loopholes, curtails or eliminates deductions and lowers income tax rates.

What the hell is wrong with you people? he is playing chess! Obama will NEVER agree to this.

What stinks is millions of Americans are going to get it up the wazoo because these people cant work with each other to pass a simple budget.

19 posted on 11/08/2012 7:11:26 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

Obama will make demands of Boehner that he will not be able to agree with and taxmageddon will follow.


20 posted on 11/08/2012 7:22:24 PM PST by RC one (Akin/Mourdock-2016)
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To: RC one

Anyone surprised that Boehner is folding first? Someone on the other side of the aisle must have some great pictures of him in action.


21 posted on 11/08/2012 7:32:40 PM PST by PAR35
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To: mylife

I don’t think Boner even knows how to play chess.


22 posted on 11/08/2012 7:42:54 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

Perhaps.

The man is in a very untenable position.
We all are.


23 posted on 11/08/2012 7:58:36 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: RC one

Coward RINO File.


24 posted on 11/08/2012 8:04:31 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: RC one

Looks like the Republican strategy is to give the Rats pretty much all of what they want: in other words, give them enough rope to hang themselves.

I always loved Flip Wilson’s Reverend Leroy line: You gots to learn how to delegate the blame.

That is something that Republican MUST learn to do effectively!!!


25 posted on 11/08/2012 8:28:42 PM PST by RatRipper (RE Obama: Romney just can't beat the lying, commie SOB bad enough to suit me. . . .)
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To: mylife; All
I don't care for the weeper of the house either, but he was ready to accept a budget deal that raises federal revenue as long as it is linked to an overhaul of entitlements and a reform of the tax code that closes loopholes, curtails or eliminates deductions and lowers income tax rates.

You get it and nobody else on this thread does.

Boehner's position is absolutely correct and Freepers seem to be clueless.

26 posted on 11/08/2012 8:33:08 PM PST by what's up
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To: RatRipper

Let them own it!


27 posted on 11/08/2012 8:35:13 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: what's up

Well thank you for not having a kneejerk reaction in a very bad difficult position.


28 posted on 11/08/2012 8:37:09 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: smokingfrog

Boner plays Checkers while the Rats play Chess.


29 posted on 11/08/2012 8:39:49 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: what's up

It has been 2 days since the election and we are fragging the folks we still have standing.

The Dems must be laughing their arses off!


30 posted on 11/08/2012 8:40:51 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

EXACTLY!!!!


31 posted on 11/08/2012 8:42:13 PM PST by RatRipper (RE Obama: Romney just can't beat the lying, commie SOB bad enough to suit me. . . .)
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To: dfwgator

We as a party just played checkers with single issues.
Now this guy is supposed to turn it around with no tools?

What is he to do?


32 posted on 11/08/2012 8:49:41 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
Our leaders are making statements about not raising taxes (the right position) and they are being roasted for it...but by OUR side.

Kind of sick.

33 posted on 11/08/2012 8:54:51 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up

Because we know they’ll ultimately cave.


34 posted on 11/08/2012 8:55:36 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Graewoulf
Coward RINO File.

A coward for saying no tax hikes?

Really?

35 posted on 11/08/2012 8:56:55 PM PST by what's up
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To: dfwgator
Because we know they’ll ultimately cave.

No, Boehner walked away from Obama last time Obama tried to push tax hikes.

The Speaker then refused to take Obama's calls and Obama was furious.

We got no tax hikes last time because the Speaker refused to allow them and I suspect Boehner is going to have the same position now.

36 posted on 11/08/2012 8:59:47 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up

I’m freekin out man! LOL

What Bums me out is both sides have been complicit in the sequestration doomsday bomb.

It is going to go off Jan 1st and they are just posturing for blame.

You can count on this.. All of them will think it is so urgent that they will “go on holiday” in about 3 weeks.

Then BLAMMO!
And they will come back in 2013 and say “It was the other fellows fault”


37 posted on 11/08/2012 9:03:25 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
Sequestration happened because Obama was completely unable to negotiate. Boehner said negotiating with the White House was like talking to jello.

Even Pelosi and Reid told the WH to butt out because O & Co. were completely inept.

Because of Obama's inability they passed it to committee. A real leader gets it done. O is no leader.

38 posted on 11/08/2012 9:08:28 PM PST by what's up
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To: dfwgator

Half of our troubles are that we telegraph to the other camp.

Were gonna do this bitch!


39 posted on 11/08/2012 9:10:02 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: RC one

I like how the Times had to put “electoral drubbing” ... knowing full well that the popular vote was close (even closer minus the fraud).


40 posted on 11/08/2012 9:17:02 PM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: what's up

Obama has been the most non nonnegotiable SOB the country has ever seen. (I WON!!)

All Boehner can do now is kinda shed some light on that.

Thats hard to do when you have no power and the media is hiding your light.
I Told all the peeps on FR the SENATE was paramount this time
What did we do? we lost Congressional And Senate seats.
Now Obama Owns the SCOTUS.

Man I don’t want Boehners job.


41 posted on 11/08/2012 9:18:29 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: what's up

” - - - A coward for saying no - - - “

When a coward says “no” that means he does not have the courage to tell us what he is really going to do.

Boehner has worked had at deceiving his words with his dastardly deeds of doom, and deservedly has earned the derisive term of COWARD.

For example, remember Sobber of The House’s pledge to defund Obama”care?”

Yup, really.


42 posted on 11/08/2012 9:20:09 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: mylife
Despite the drubbing Boehner takes on FR (and he constantly gets smeared here even worse than on DU IMO) I'm hoping he's up to the gargantuan task.

Now that he's the only leader we've got he may very well prove that he is able rise to the occasion. I actually respect him for thus far standing against higher taxes; yes, I know I'm in the minority here for not hating the man.

43 posted on 11/08/2012 9:25:11 PM PST by what's up
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To: Graewoulf

We did not give him the tools

There is ZERO chance of repealing obamacare now, but Boehner still maintains that he will fight to adjust it.

I have little hope that he will succeed when his party is fragging him 2 days after the election.
If I was him I would make Obama OWN IT.

We’ll all still be screwed but at least Obama owns it.


44 posted on 11/08/2012 9:28:05 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: what's up

I do not like his style but can respect his position.


45 posted on 11/08/2012 9:30:01 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Graewoulf

How do you defund a tax. When Roberts defined the Obamacare mandate that way it floored everyone.


46 posted on 11/08/2012 9:31:58 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up
Despite the drubbing Boehner takes on FR

Romney is gone, stone the next fellow closest to the top of the hill /s

47 posted on 11/08/2012 9:34:25 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
Sometimes I get the feeling Boehner is hated more than Obama here.

Not easy to understand.

48 posted on 11/08/2012 9:43:25 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up

We eat our own.

Dems never do


49 posted on 11/08/2012 9:50:02 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: All

John Edwards was the biggest shyster sack of crap to ever walk down the pike.
They gave him a father of the year award and nominated him VP Candidate.

He cheated on his wife with cancer and fathered a illegitimate child while all this was going on and the Dems let John John ride quietly into the sunset.

We on the other hand, rip decent men for the slightest offense.


50 posted on 11/08/2012 10:04:22 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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