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Freep a Poll! (Get rid of Electoral College?)
dailynews.com ^ | 11-8-12 | LA Daily News

Posted on 11/08/2012 2:44:12 PM PST by dynachrome

Do you think the U.S. should do away with the electoral college?

Yes

No

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: electoralcollege; poll
Is that the college obozo went to?/s
1 posted on 11/08/2012 2:44:19 PM PST by dynachrome
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; A knight without armor; Alexander Rubin; all the best; AmericaUnite; ...
Thanks to Bon of Babble for this one! (poll is half way down in the middle)

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2 posted on 11/08/2012 2:46:14 PM PST by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: dynachrome

Guess Dems are still frothing over their 2000 loss.


3 posted on 11/08/2012 2:47:22 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: dynachrome

The electoral college isn’t why Romney lost. The Dems knew what states they needed and manipulated the machines to produce the desired result. No I can’t prove it but think about this:

Romney got 57 million votes on Tuesday and McCain got 60 million votes in 2008. Let me say that again Romney got 57 million votes on Tuesday and McCain got 60 million votes in 2008. Can anyone in their right mind think that is true?

Sorry I’m just not buying it. Undoubtedly there was massive voter machine manipulation going on.


4 posted on 11/08/2012 2:48:22 PM PST by Graneros (The most fundamental purpose of government is defense, not empire. – Joseph Sobran)
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To: dynachrome
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5 posted on 11/08/2012 2:48:37 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: dynachrome
Do you think the U.S. should do away with the electoral college?
Total Votes = 348
Yes 200 Votes, or 57.47 %
No 148 Votes, or 42.52 %

6 posted on 11/08/2012 2:51:41 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Big Bird is a brood parasite: laid in our nest 43 years ago and we are still feeding him.)
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To: KarlInOhio

The lack of an “electoral process” is what makes regions of certain states like MD feel like seceding.


7 posted on 11/08/2012 2:54:30 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Graneros
I figured when the early votes came in...BECAUSE they knew the affiliation of each ballot....they just kept chucking Repub ballots. It's not hard to beat the system where there is no way to CONFIRM that an early ballot was entered.

In other words, it disappeared BEFORE the day of the actual count.

8 posted on 11/08/2012 2:56:10 PM PST by Sacajaweau (r)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

The 17th amendment was a popular vote amendment for senators and its been a disaster ever since.


9 posted on 11/08/2012 2:57:55 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: dynachrome

Total Votes = 372 - Yes 207 Votes, or 55.64% - No 165 Votes, or 44.35%


10 posted on 11/08/2012 2:58:46 PM PST by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: KarlInOhio

They’ve learned to beat the electoral college. I call it herd counting (demographics). Philly is a perfect example. If you don’t have Philly....you don’t have the state.


11 posted on 11/08/2012 2:58:53 PM PST by Sacajaweau (r)
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To: Sacajaweau
Philly is a perfect example. If you don’t have Philly....you don’t have the state.

I think all states should have systems like Nebraska and Maine where two electors are given at large and the rest are given by congressional district. That limits the effect of one area's vote fraud to the two at-large and the one district elector.

12 posted on 11/08/2012 3:04:52 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Big Bird is a brood parasite: laid in our nest 43 years ago and we are still feeding him.)
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To: dynachrome

I still prefer the system they use in the uk which means that the leader of the party that takes 50%+ of most seats in the House equivalent runs the Govt. Does away with the electoral college and makes the house elections much more important. I’d also make a law that the President must currently hold office, i.e congress, senate or Gov when they run for the Presidency for a time of no less than 4 years. Congress term should be upped to 4 years. If they want to be President, they should be currently elected.

The Senate and then used as a back up to stop or pass the houses bills but can’t write laws.

I’d make the President come once a week to the house to answer congressmen’s questions like the British PM has to do.

Reform is seriously needed in the electoral dept.


13 posted on 11/08/2012 3:08:52 PM PST by sunmars
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To: dynachrome

No! Absolutely not. The Electoral College is one of the few remaining obstacles to Liberal totalitarianism and destruction of the sovereignty of the States of the Union and the individual voters in those states.


14 posted on 11/08/2012 3:10:45 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: KarlInOhio
I agree.

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Then we could overturn the 17th amendment and let state legislatures choose senators that actually represent their home states.
15 posted on 11/08/2012 3:10:53 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: dynachrome

No! Absolutely not. The Electoral College is one of the few remaining obstacles to Liberal totalitarianism and destruction of the sovereignty of the States of the Union and the individual voters in those states.


16 posted on 11/08/2012 3:16:37 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: cripplecreek

Yes, terrible.

C. 1900-20 was a terrible time. Lots of little niggling things changed by law, including INCOME TAX. Which I tag the origin of alot of problems.


17 posted on 11/08/2012 3:17:28 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: dynachrome

Who the bloody [long string of very unladylike words] are these [more unladylike words]???

Anti-electoral-college propaganda is spread by the democrats because they want to eliminate our Republic and replace it with what our founders hated with a passion, a democracy, or what more intelligent people call “mob rule.”

Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what’s for lunch.

Do you think the U.S. should do away with the electoral college?

Total Votes = 410

Yes I’m an idiot and want to vote myself other people’s money!
215 Votes, or 52.43 %

HELL NO!
195 Votes, or 47.56 %


18 posted on 11/08/2012 3:21:07 PM PST by TheOldLady
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To: dynachrome
Yeah, lets dump it so that elections can be entirely decided by the urban areas of the nation (ie the Dems).

Anyone who wants to get rid of the Electoral College needs to go back and read the Founders to understand why it exists.

19 posted on 11/08/2012 3:22:26 PM PST by The Toad
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To: Sacajaweau; All
They’ve learned to beat the electoral college. I call it herd counting (demographics).

Yup. Eric Erickson says Romney's Project Orca system crashed and wasn't useable on election day for GOTV. Obama didn't have that problem. TIME had a piece on Obama's IT operation.

The GOP cannot let this happen again.

20 posted on 11/08/2012 3:26:54 PM PST by newzjunkey (Obama thanks Pontius Pilate Freepers for giving him four more years!)
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To: The Toad

You are correct. It’s amazing the number of people who do not understand why the Electoral College exists.


21 posted on 11/08/2012 3:34:06 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: KarlInOhio
RE:"I think all states should have systems like Nebraska and Maine where two electors are given at large and the rest are given by congressional district. That limits the effect of one area's vote fraud to the two at-large and the one district elector."

That is a great idea.A lawful constitutional republic is now a thing of the past.

22 posted on 11/08/2012 3:55:31 PM PST by Baynative
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To: cripplecreek
The liberals have a strangle hold on America with their hands squeezing the country from the outside and their powerful thumbs pressed firmly in the middle spreading pressure outward.


23 posted on 11/08/2012 4:09:42 PM PST by Baynative
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To: OldPossum
America by district:


24 posted on 11/08/2012 4:12:46 PM PST by Baynative
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To: dynachrome
Is that the college obozo went to?/s

Yes, he was the first ever to enroll as a foreign student.

25 posted on 11/08/2012 4:15:58 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: dynachrome

No.


26 posted on 11/08/2012 4:17:22 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: dynachrome

Vote was pretty even when I looked.

A popular vote, in a close presidential election, could easily result in recounts in every single voting precinct in the country, coast to coast. It would definitely result in more Acorn-type activity in populous blue states.

A more useful poll would be “Should the world series be decided on the traditional basis of ‘best four out of seven’ games or on the basis of total runs scored (or hits, stolen bases, fewest pitches, fewest errors, fewest players, coaches, managers ejected ... etc.)?


27 posted on 11/08/2012 4:20:35 PM PST by Mobties (Let the markets work! Reduce the government's footprint!)
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To: WhiskeyX; mickie; flaglady47
My God, Whiskey, you're a sane voice on this thread!

If we have a popular vote, say goodbye to the Republic. It will be a Democracy and mob rule....a coalition of big cities will rule every election.....the unhappy restless minorities and illegals and liberals and takers control the Dem big cities now....oh, Lordy, vote NO.

Don't second-guess the Founders!

Leni

28 posted on 11/08/2012 4:22:51 PM PST by MinuteGal
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To: Baynative

At the state level we’re gaining ground which is why the liberals need to get rid of the electoral college is growing so urgent. If it weren’t for the 17th amendment, the democrats would be a small minority party centered almost entirely in the northeast.

Michigan state government went large GOP majority in 2010 and still is. 2 more states flipped to GOP majority in decades the other night. That’s 6 GOP senators if the state legislatures were still choosing them.


29 posted on 11/08/2012 4:40:07 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: MinuteGal
If we have a popular vote, say goodbye to the Republic. It will be a Democracy and mob rule....a coalition of big cities will rule every election.....the unhappy restless minorities and illegals and liberals and takers control the Dem big cities now....oh, Lordy, vote NO.

That's why I swing that 17th amendment hammer so much. It was nothing more than a popular vote amendment for senators. We've got a solid GOP majority in the state legislature and a majority of our representatives in DC are republican. Unfortunately, Detroit, Flint, and Ann Arbor keep electing Levin and Stabenow.
30 posted on 11/08/2012 4:49:43 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: dynachrome

They don’t have a “Hell no!” option.


31 posted on 11/08/2012 5:03:43 PM PST by FrogMom (Chicken Little is coming, and he's right!)
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To: dynachrome

What needs to be gotten rid of is open primaries. Why in the world does the GOP let non-party members have so much power in selecting who will be the GOP presidential representative?

It the republicans ever want a really candidate they need to restrict primary voting to party members only. Otherwise we will be stuck with more losers. If your chosen candidate can’t excite the base, he’s the wrong candidate.


32 posted on 11/08/2012 5:28:56 PM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: Baynative

Hopefully, as the economy gets more and more miserable, the guilt ridden upper middle class ‘Rats that moved to rural states and locals to escape their soiled nest states and urban enclaves will go broke and retreat back to their coastal urban utopias and cede the majority of places where you actually work and produce stuff back to those who do that...

They are like metastatized cells which went off and produced tumors of worthlessness in places like Oregon, Colorado, Northern Virginia, etc...


33 posted on 11/08/2012 7:05:50 PM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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