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I Have Changed My Political Position
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Posted on 11/08/2012 11:32:37 AM PST by wolfman23601

Need to rant, sorry ahead of time for the tirade, The people have spoken and I have changed my political position. I am no longer anti-tax and I will support any and all tax and fee increases going forward at every level of government for the next 4 years. Raise property taxes, raise the sales tax, enact tolls on all bridges, tunnels, and interstates, raise the gas tax, add a milage tax... and on the federal side raise the income tax, not just on the rich, but for everybody, let the payroll tax reduction expire, raise the healthcare tax/penalty, raise all fees, and eliminate all tax credits and deductions. I am now an all of the above kind of guy. Afterall, that is what we have been voting for. Free healthcare, free birth control, free food, free trains and free train rides, free cell phones, cash for clunkers, free arenas with a new basketball team, free development everywhere, it goes on and on. It is about time people see what it is like to pay for all this free stuff. Until then, we will never get back on track, but instead will keep voting for free stuff until the Ponzi Scheme crashes. Raise taxes, fees, and tolls on all.


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1 posted on 11/08/2012 11:32:41 AM PST by wolfman23601
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To: wolfman23601

Out of all that, property tax going skyhigh is one of the worst.

In theory a person could get some land, a house, and just live simply, but if they make it unaffordable to even own property, then that is the true fulfillment of the collective.

I would suggest anyone thinking of moving out “to the country” to take into account which states are turning more purple, like VA, FL, NC, CO etc, and possibly avoid them. Look at which areas have low property tax and aren’t turning Blue. Even if an area in VA, CO has low Prop Tax now, they might explode as those states turn more Blue.

Some things are avoidable with dramatic steps, but Property Tax attacks one of the main planks of freedom...and the freedom of the hermit...so to speak.


2 posted on 11/08/2012 11:39:04 AM PST by Crimson Elephant
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To: wolfman23601

I would too rather see the Bush Tax Cuts all be allowed to expire on everyone than to have them made permanent for just those making nder $250,000 per year.. People want a welfare state, they need to feel the pain of paying for it. The entire country is gong the way of Detroit and California. If it happens faster rather than slower, people may be shocked awake. The GOP House needs to go all in on the Bush tax cuts. Either they are all made permanent, or none of them.


3 posted on 11/08/2012 11:39:40 AM PST by KansasGirl ("If you have a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."--B. Hussein Obama)
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To: wolfman23601

Elections have consequences!! Boehner stop all bills going through the house. The fiscal cliff will happen and huge tax increases will happen!!!!!


4 posted on 11/08/2012 11:43:07 AM PST by tallyhoe
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To: wolfman23601

The problem with the current system is that some people actually try to make it in the free market economy while others just look to government to give them everything.

I’ve often thought it would be much more fair that if we are going to have socialism, just let it apply to everyone. At least that way, everyone would know where they stand.


5 posted on 11/08/2012 11:43:07 AM PST by NYCslicker
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To: KansasGirl

bravo
give the 47% what they voted for

strangle the golden goose and distribute those eggs!

Par-tay like it’s 2014!

Oh wait...


6 posted on 11/08/2012 11:44:28 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: wolfman23601

Before you plunge into the abyss of State “relief” remember exactly who you’ll be dealing with... government employees. Your life will no longer be yours, your parental decisions will no longer be yours. And if the state decides they can do a better job at parenting they will take away your rights as easily as pulling your library card. Instead I propose you continue to be the best you can be. To invest in YOUR ideas and endure the coming crisis - where we, the Exceptional Americans will come out of this mess with head held high.


7 posted on 11/08/2012 11:44:28 AM PST by vivabushchick (Obama lies: The gift that keeps giving.)
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8 posted on 11/08/2012 11:45:05 AM PST by Brandonmark (2012: Our Hope IS Change!)
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To: wolfman23601
People don't understand what Obama and the socialists/democrats are doing. They keep growing government for a reason to achieve a socialist dictatorship. Obama will never leave the office of dictator now( These stalinists like Chavez always do this). They bribe people and the poor with freebies as long as you let them grow the government. Now obama is about to let the UN regulate the internet and our guns. In a few months they will take over our healthcare which will be the tipping point (romney said he would have left it to the states). So purists “conservatives” who stayed home ( 3 million less votes for Romney than Mccain) and campaigned against Romny have now installed Obama as furer for life.
9 posted on 11/08/2012 11:48:36 AM PST by Democrat_media (limit government to 5000 words of laws. how to limit gov Quantify limited government ...)
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To: wolfman23601

I agree 100 % with you raise all taxes. The stupid Californians just voted to raise taxes even though I didn’t, but like you I’ve changed my mind. Raise taxes on everybody.

Some in my family had owned their house bought in the 60s and had low property taxes under prop 13—they all voted for the communist in the white house. Now the California Legislature has a super majority—rats, of course and now (excuse me while I ROTFLMAO) the dems want to overturn prop 13, they will find their taxes increase ten fold!!! hahahahahaha!


10 posted on 11/08/2012 11:48:36 AM PST by notaliberal (We are all communist's now!)
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To: wolfman23601
"I am now an all of the above kind of guy"

I have an idea. How about Food Stamps for all! That would be fair. They have Health Care for all... With Food Stamps for all!!!
11 posted on 11/08/2012 11:49:25 AM PST by Democrats hate too much
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To: Crimson Elephant

I have never been dependent on the government but since is now being encouraged I plan on being a proud American and take full advantage. Whatever is available I will avail myself to. Food stamps, benefits, tax loopholes, when free medical care comes I will be a one man hospital and take advantage of as many check ups, teeth cleanings and exercise programs as I can snatch. Any little ache I will classify as a disability and take advantage there. I will sue anything that crosses me. I will disown my heritage and claim to be 1/2 Navajo. Let them friggnnn prove it. I have black hair and high cheekbones. I’ll bust this budget all on my lonesome.


12 posted on 11/08/2012 11:49:30 AM PST by Blackirish
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To: tallyhoe

I’m all for it. I hope my taxes go up drastically.


13 posted on 11/08/2012 11:49:46 AM PST by wolfman23601
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To: wolfman23601

‘America...down the latrine in 2013!’


14 posted on 11/08/2012 11:50:55 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Blackirish

Oh yeah!!!! When Free medicine shows up I plan to take more Viagra the LAZ!!!!!!!!!!!


15 posted on 11/08/2012 11:52:07 AM PST by Blackirish
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To: wolfman23601

Maybe Obama really did cheat his way through this election.


16 posted on 11/08/2012 11:52:21 AM PST by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: Blackirish

Sounds Navajo to me! Go for it!


17 posted on 11/08/2012 11:52:41 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: wolfman23601

The Dems will certainly bring in a VAT tax if they ever get full control again. And it doesn’t appear in Europe that they create enough of a backlash to ever get repealed.


18 posted on 11/08/2012 11:52:54 AM PST by JediJones (Vote NO on Proposition Zero! Tuesday, November 6th!)
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To: wolfman23601

Food Stamps for ALL!!

We all need Health Care, right? We all need food, right? ...ha, maybe we should require all businesses to provide Food Stamps for their employees! That's another idea too.


19 posted on 11/08/2012 11:54:39 AM PST by Democrats hate too much
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To: wolfman23601

So purists “conservatives” who stayed home ( 3 million less votes for Romney than Mccain) and campaigned against Romney have now installed Obama as dicttator for life. Obama will grow the government so much to reach the tipping point where he can become dictator ( as Chavez did). So all the purists and those that didn’t vote or voted for 3r party gave our country , our liberty and our lives over to a peice of crap called Obama .


20 posted on 11/08/2012 11:56:46 AM PST by Democrat_media (limit government to 5000 words of laws. how to limit gov Quantify limited government ...)
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To: wolfman23601

I have said the same before and waffle back and forth. It’s hard to fix a flat tire when it is still turning and on the car.


21 posted on 11/08/2012 11:57:47 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Blackirish

You don’t even have to be half blood navaho. Lizzie Warren believed without proof that she was 1/32 Cherokee and did not hesitate to claim native American status to further her career...

So from now on, I’m checking the Hispanic box on forms, because I have a great great great grandparent who dressed like a matador in a photo, and had a Spanish last name.

And I’m applying for food stamps asap, as my income is low. Was too proud to do it before, but no more. We need to do all we can to crash this clown car.


22 posted on 11/08/2012 12:00:19 PM PST by ladyrustic
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To: wolfman23601
I Have Changed My Political Position

"I will alert the Media."

23 posted on 11/08/2012 12:00:23 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: wolfman23601

We can strive to starve this government into crashing...let the democrats do as they wish with taxes and regulation...lower your economic footprint to as small as possible for a few years. Indeed, focus on dealing in cash or barter with like minded people. We are the productive ones under which the engine of the economy runs...I say let it run out of gas!


24 posted on 11/08/2012 12:02:48 PM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: Democrats hate too much
"...ha, maybe we should require all businesses to provide Food Stamps for their employees! That's another idea too. "

Sorry to keep expanding on this idea but I keep getting more ideas... Anyways, this is actually a great idea. If the employer puts the money in "spending accounts" then it won't be taxed! That actually means less money for the government.
25 posted on 11/08/2012 12:04:18 PM PST by Democrats hate too much
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To: Democrat_media
"So all the purists and those that didn’t vote or voted for 3r party gave our country , our liberty and our lives over to a peice of crap called Obama."

You deserve Obama.

26 posted on 11/08/2012 12:10:49 PM PST by Godebert (No Person Except a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: NYCslicker

In a way we would have probably been just as well off if the Dems had taken control of the House also. If they had, then we could move more quickly toward socialism because that is where we are headed anyway. The faster we get there the faster the people who voted for Obama will find out just how bad it will be. This slow drip toward socialism is like Chinese water torture, drip, drip, drip !!


27 posted on 11/08/2012 12:14:44 PM PST by bestrongbpositive
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To: bestrongbpositive

Not true, we need the republican house. If the Dems had full control, they would have only raised taxes on the rich and there would have been no backlash. We need to raise taxes on everyone. We need the people who eke out a living with $500 paychecks that voted for Obama see how creative they can get with $400 paychecks.


28 posted on 11/08/2012 12:18:12 PM PST by wolfman23601
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To: who knows what evil?

I’m gonna max out student loan programs take the checks and buy a killer Mustang. Lose my job claim hardship and get on a $25.00 a month payment program....!!!!! I got lot’s of great ideas on how to be a Great American in the new utopia!!!


29 posted on 11/08/2012 12:18:12 PM PST by Blackirish
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To: Godebert

You purists gave us Obama.

Any of You really think Obama will leave power in 2016? Stalinists never leave . Yeah Saddam Hussein, Chavez in Venezuela have elections but they always win as this stalinist Obama just “won”.


30 posted on 11/08/2012 12:21:04 PM PST by Democrat_media (limit government to 5000 words of laws. how to limit gov Quantify limited government ...)
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To: KansasGirl

....”I would too rather see the Bush Tax Cuts all be allowed to expire on everyone”....

Sorry KG, they are no longer the “Bush Tax Cuts”. They are the “Obama Tax Rates”, as Barack Obama signed off in 2010 on extending the rates that have been in place since 2003 or so, first enacted under GWB. Barack Obama, Not GWB, owns the current tax rates.

I suggest making that point to any and all who decry the “Bush Tax Cuts for the Rich”.


31 posted on 11/08/2012 12:22:40 PM PST by astounded (Barack Obama is a clear and present danger to the USA)
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To: KansasGirl

....”I would too rather see the Bush Tax Cuts all be allowed to expire on everyone”....

Sorry KG, they are no longer the “Bush Tax Cuts”. They are the “Obama Tax Rates”, as Barack Obama signed off in 2010 on extending the rates that have been in place since 2003 or so, first enacted under GWB. Barack Obama, not GWB, owns the current tax rates.

I suggest making that point to any and all who decry the “Bush Tax Cuts for the Rich”.


32 posted on 11/08/2012 12:23:01 PM PST by astounded (Barack Obama is a clear and present danger to the USA)
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To: Democrat_media

Is there something more noble in becoming socialist more slowly? Don’t we end up socialist either way? This way, it is on the Dems since they are driving. You way, it is on the Republicans since they either did it or went along and either way there they will be blamed.


33 posted on 11/08/2012 12:23:07 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: wolfman23601

What if we had undercover candidates who could run saying liberal things (in blue places) and even out liberal the Dem candidate, sort of like you are saying. MORE free stuff for MORE people. Totally open borders. Then, once elected, they could “evolve”, never enacting any of these things, but giving limp lip service, “I tried so hard”. Do that for a cycle, get back in, get seniority and ultimately do an Arlen Specter. If timed all at once, the entire apparatus could be flipped all at once, enacting the right stuff early enough after an election for it to have worked by the next cycle.


34 posted on 11/08/2012 12:23:29 PM PST by Anima Mundi (You can lead a brain to facts but you can't make it think.)
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To: 5thGenTexan

Obama is about to allow the UN to regulate the Internet and our guns. Obama is about get the government to take over our healthcare.Romney said he would repeal Obamacare and leave it to the states. You purists all have the blame for this. 3 million “conservative” purists stayed home . these are just 2 examples. You really think Obama won’t become a socialist dictator like Chavez did? You think Romney is evil socialist like Obama is? Yes I would like at least 4 years to try to turn this country around , even 4 years of grid lock would have been better than 4 years( more like 30 years now) of Obama communist.


35 posted on 11/08/2012 12:28:53 PM PST by Democrat_media (limit government to 5000 words of laws. how to limit gov Quantify limited government ...)
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To: 5thGenTexan

Obama is about to allow the UN to regulate the Internet and our guns. Obama is about get the government to take over our healthcare.Romney said he would repeal Obamacare and leave it to the states. You purists all have the blame for this. 3 million “conservative” purists stayed home . these are just 2 examples. You really think Obama won’t become a socialist dictator like Chavez did? You think Romney is evil socialist anti-American dictator like Obama is? Yes I would like at least 4 years to try to turn this country around , even 4 years of grid lock would have been better than 4 years( more like 30 years now) of Obama communist. Also EPA about to crack down on coal and oil production


36 posted on 11/08/2012 12:34:25 PM PST by Democrat_media (limit government to 5000 words of laws. how to limit gov Quantify limited government ...)
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To: Wpin
My husband passed away two years ago and left me with a nice pension. That, combined with income from investments and my employment, puts me in Obama’s web for the taking. I am going to sit down tonight and figure out how many hours I have to reduce my work schedule by to get out from under his attack and then request a flexible work arrangement with my employer. When they ask me why, I will openly admit it is foolish for me to work hard and be successful with Obama as my president!
37 posted on 11/08/2012 12:35:39 PM PST by GizzyGirl
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To: NYCslicker
The problem with the current system is that some people actually try to make it in the free market economy while others just look to government to give them everything.

The even bigger problem will be that the people who do make it in the private sector will use their gains to by bigger TV's, nicer cars, better homes, and fancier vacations. Eventually, the takers depending on the government for everything will begin demanding also the bigger TV's and fancier cars, too, for no other reason than that the earners have them and the takers want them, too.

-PJ

38 posted on 11/08/2012 12:37:49 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: wolfman23601

I hate to break the bad news, but we already live in a socialist country. Do you think the number of starving people in this country doubled in four years? Nope. The food stamp program isn’t about feeding hungry people, it’s about redistributing wealth. We are now buying the groceries for the people who vote Democrat. And honestly, how many people do you know that can’t work because they’re disabled? Is it the millions more on social security disability? The government is taking hard-earned taxpayer money and giving it to Democrats so they don’t have to work and so they’ll vote Democrat. And what about all those black and Hispanic and female make-believe pig farmers who each received $50,000 hard earned taxpayer money and they couldn’t tell you whether you feed a hog grass or oats. Oh, yeah, we already are a socialist nation. The Democrats have just been calling it by different names.


39 posted on 11/08/2012 12:52:08 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: wolfman23601

Want to rant about something?
Try this:
In Texas, the illegals get WIC and Lone Star card benefits. (welfare)
They use the Lone Star card to buy food.
Some of these ladies are real entrepreneurs.
Because there are multiples working in the one household, they use the benefit cards to buy food at WALMART.
Sometimes the monthly total is $1000-$1500 per lady.
They use the card to buy chicken, nothing but chicken.
Can you imagine how many baskets it takes to haul out $1500 worth of frozen pollo? (chicken to you, gringo)
Then they take that to their restaurant and sell it to their customers.
Either in sit down cafe type places, or by selling it out of their trunks at job sites. Government support at its finest. They pay no taxes to the feds, its a huge profit chain.
The old roach coach feed trucks can’t compete. They had to be licensed and pay taxes.
Taxes? they don’t pay no stinking taxes.....
Come to Texas where the money is free (for some) and the illegals no pay taxes....
Sanctuary city Fort Worth TX.
Wish I could franchise these trunk monkey burrito dealers.....


40 posted on 11/08/2012 12:53:39 PM PST by 9422WMR (Life is not fair, just deal with it)
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To: Democrat_media
"You purists gave us Obama."

You deserve Obama.

41 posted on 11/08/2012 12:54:52 PM PST by Godebert (No Person Except a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: blueunicorn6

That’s why the first bill to come out of the Republican House in January 2013 should be THE SOCIAL SECURITY DISABILITY AND FOODSTAMP AND FDA REVIEW ACT OF 2013. They got caught napping and the Democrats used those programs to redistribute wealth and buy votes. Elections have consequences. Thievery should have consequences, too.


42 posted on 11/08/2012 12:58:39 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Blackirish

LOL!!


43 posted on 11/08/2012 12:59:24 PM PST by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: Brandonmark

44 posted on 11/08/2012 1:06:41 PM PST by arasina (Communism is EVIL. So there.)
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To: Democrat_media
You seem to know a lot about the future.

Could you tell me where CXO, COP, SD, HGT, XOM, ACFN, PAAS, RGLD..etc...will be in a month?

45 posted on 11/08/2012 1:07:03 PM PST by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: wolfman23601

Oh nice...sounds like you think the best way to win a war is to surrender...if you can’t beat em, join em...

Just sit back and let it all go to hell, just so you can show others how bad it can really get, what are you going to do when it is all destroyed, say I told you so.

A couple of lost battles and it is time to quit, let the children deal with it someday, how are they going to learn how to fight, with you and other whiners as an example.

It is time now, to quit the bitching, moaning, crying and complaining and get down to the business of winning our country back, how long is this crap going too go on, you let this crap go to far, infection and festering will never stop, one day is enough already, there is no time to waste, get back in the battle, our enemy is upon us, our problem is there are to many CINO’s.

Your post is a slap in the face to Conservative Americans whose responsibility it is to conserve our Constitution.

And I hope you and all the other whiners don’t like it, don’t tell it to me, there are plenty of others it seems who share your view of surrender.

Is There No SHAME Anymore!


46 posted on 11/08/2012 2:23:27 PM PST by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: wolfman23601

Obamanation Communism File.


47 posted on 11/08/2012 2:24:13 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Democrat_media

You have been brow-beating me to death (”you purists”) even though I held my nose, AGAIN, and voted for Romney. Even though I DID WHAT YOU WANTED, you STILL BLAME ME.

Let me ask you this: did you ever contact anyone in the Republican Party and voice your concern over nominating yet another RINO? Did you contact them when this tactic failed with McCain? Have you done ANYTHING except BLAME OTHERS?

Sorry, but Free Republic does not get to the whole country. Even though people like you trashed us purists here, the reality is we represent a real sentiment that is caused by the failing of the Republican Party.

We purists finally sent a hard message. You lapdogs are the reason we had to.


48 posted on 11/08/2012 9:58:56 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: wolfman23601

Screw our grandkids....Let’s Party!


49 posted on 11/08/2012 10:00:11 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: wolfman23601

50 posted on 11/08/2012 10:03:06 PM PST by dfwgator
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