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Makers Consider being Takers - Overload Redistribution by Getting a Fair Share
Reflection | 11/8/2012 | Self

Posted on 11/08/2012 4:31:55 AM PST by Jumper

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A body of thought has been swirling around for some time related to "the takers vs. the makers".

With the advent of election result, maybe it is time for conservatives to embrace anew Government for what is has become.

Too many conservatives have denied themselves the basic services or benefits offered to those we consider takers. This is our own fault and let me explain my thoughts on this. Conservatives up until now have not participated in the gross negligence of largess provided to those who are knowledgeable of government assistance or what we sometimes see as handouts.

It is time to SLOW the Humanist Tide against the people who oppose it but there is really only one way and it would appear that Redistribution is the key. President Obama has run Government for takers. Conservatives need to start TAKING; taking all we can get will leave less for those we oppose - and Government will work for all of us at that point. Conservatives should overload the financial aspects of the Government Freebies by taking our share.

The election turned on social issues in part, to be sure - everyone is entitled to a fair share according to the President.

There is too much debt and not enough if the 35% of the Country that is conservative TAKES their FAIR Share.

To fully appreciate this form of guerrilla warfare against socialism by joining it is to overload that very Re-Distribution.

Freepers el at could respond to this post with all the ways you are aware Government GIVES and we should build a list - Conservatives by their very nature are opposed to handouts or too busy otherwise to come into contact with the Government Re-Distribution - Let us educate ourselves in this thread so that this new Administration Gives to the entire Nation and not just those who voted with their hands out

1 posted on 11/08/2012 4:31:56 AM PST by Jumper
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To: Jumper

Remember you paid into the system. It’s your money and somebody else is using it. Better hurry before the cart gets overloaded and all your money has been spent.


2 posted on 11/08/2012 4:34:20 AM PST by tsowellfan
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To: Jumper

This concept is well-explained here:

http://www.starvingthemonkeys.com/


3 posted on 11/08/2012 4:37:32 AM PST by krb (Obama is a miserable failure.)
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To: Jumper

I don’t know if you are being tongue-in-cheek or serious. However, I am going to keep on “making” and abide by the Biblical mandate, “The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat.” 2 Thessalonians 2:10


4 posted on 11/08/2012 4:39:53 AM PST by Drawsing (The fool shows his annoyance at once. The prudent man overlooks an insult. (Proverbs 12:16))
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To: tsowellfan
Remember you paid into the system.

Yes - absolutely true, but paying into the system doesn't buy you any equity in

It’s your money

Once the government seizes it, it is no longer your money. It WAS your money and now it's the government's and not even a thank you.

and somebody else is using it.

Well that is one of the two best things about government jobs - spending someone else's hard earned money, and the other is never ever having to admit when you're wrong.

Better hurry before the cart gets overloaded and all your money has been spent.

TOO LATE!! Not only has you money been squandered, but borrowed trillions mortgaging the future of the nation have been dumped down the rathole. PLUS except for social security + medicare these programs are MEANS TESTED. If you actually work for a living or have any savings, you can't get on the gravy train without committing fraud.

5 posted on 11/08/2012 4:42:38 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Drawsing
I do not think this means for us to stop working. Myself, I am going to stop donating money to organizations that pretty much give handouts to people already on the public dole. Its bad enough that our tax money is redistributed, but we do have a say on money we donate. Start there.
6 posted on 11/08/2012 4:44:03 AM PST by bella1 (As it was in the days of Lot.....)
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To: tsowellfan

I dont disagree with this. each persons situation is different. Dennis Miller spoke of this approach yesterday.
I plan on earning less to avoid being stolen from.
I convinced my son to get an EBT card.

maybe its time to add my tagline after nearly 2 years.


7 posted on 11/08/2012 4:47:33 AM PST by americas.best.days... ( I think we can now say that they are behind us.)
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To: from occupied ga

I think the poster was talking about entitlements such as disability, health insurance for the 12 yr old dog, the free phones and any other program out there. It’s NOT too late but it will be soon when the wagon overloads.


8 posted on 11/08/2012 4:49:30 AM PST by tsowellfan
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To: bella1

I would never stop working. I have my dreams and goals. That’s the catch with government programs, they keep you down. You earn money on your own and you’re done - no more freebies. That’s the catch.


9 posted on 11/08/2012 4:51:39 AM PST by tsowellfan
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Before you advocate such a plan, please realize that you are playing right into their hands. They are proponents of the Cloward-Piven strategy which seeks to get as many takers as possible to overwhelm the system. When the system crashes, as it inevitably will, the commies will be standing ready to take control of the chaos and we all know how commies control things. Better to starve the beast by living modestly and making an effort to support like minded patriots when purchasing or bartering for lifes necessities.


10 posted on 11/08/2012 4:52:25 AM PST by Josephat
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To: Josephat

You make a very good point


11 posted on 11/08/2012 4:53:49 AM PST by tsowellfan
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To: tsowellfan

Same here...until retirement that is :) But certain donations are coming to an end. I’m done with helping people who live off my tax money as it is, especially with the holidays coming up. We will be asked to donate to every organization under the sun. Sorry, no more. Going to be very picky.


12 posted on 11/08/2012 4:55:39 AM PST by bella1 (As it was in the days of Lot.....)
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To: Josephat; All

As I said you make good points.

Here in my city there are people coming here from Somalia and straight to the disability bureau to sign up for a limp they have had from some injury they got in their country and they get it.

Never paid into the system yet they collect SSI, food stamps, public housing, cell phones and the whole nine yards.

Imagine how much federal money is being spent in this fashion to immigrants and “immigrants” in states like Arizona, California...etc.


13 posted on 11/08/2012 4:57:43 AM PST by tsowellfan
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To: from occupied ga
PLUS except for social security + medicare these programs are MEANS TESTED.

Actually there is a form of "means testing" on SS retirement benefits. Since my taxable non-SS income is more than the government thinks I deserve, part of my SS retirement benefits are also taxed.

14 posted on 11/08/2012 5:04:22 AM PST by Roccus
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To: tsowellfan

I think the point is to over load the wagon, burn out the wheel bearings and cause the wheels to fly off.

I AM IN ON THIS: Where my Obama phone. Where my free gasoline. Where my free house. Where my free condoms. Where my food stamps. Where my, well you get the picture.

Yesterday my buddy and I were discussing this. He said gee, sounds good but I make too much money. I said simple, just lie.


15 posted on 11/08/2012 5:10:18 AM PST by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Jumper

Someone literally needs to post ways to get freebies. All of the people who voted for Obama already know how. If someone will post HOW to get that stuff, I’m game. I don’t have a clue. Honestly.


16 posted on 11/08/2012 5:13:09 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: tsowellfan
disability

You might be able to get away with this, but the "0bama phone" is tied to already getting welfare benefits which are means tested.

17 posted on 11/08/2012 5:18:05 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Jumper

ping


18 posted on 11/08/2012 5:18:55 AM PST by alrea
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To: bella1
ditto here
last year I spent hundreds of dollars buying “wish gifts” for kids in the local projects
yesterday these rasist brats brought my DD to tears in school by gloating about obama and calling her parents (me) vulgar names for voting for Romney (she was unwary enough to let them know when they asked)
This year all Christmas donations go to the poor box at church or to an animal rescue organization I support

If I am going to save mongrels I might as well save grateful loving ones

19 posted on 11/08/2012 5:20:17 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: Jumper

             

20 posted on 11/08/2012 5:20:37 AM PST by tomkat ( <shrug>)
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