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Vanity: No need for a majority. We CAN get America back!

Posted on 11/07/2012 2:44:57 PM PST by ConservativeMan55

If we want this country back we CAN get it back. People say "The demographics have tipped against us". That may be so.

But let's figure out WHY. Sure there is a huge welfare state and it is only getting bigger. BUT. Let me ask you this question. How many states passed Gay Marriage laws yesterday?

Maryland, Maine and Washington. With many more to come in future elections right? How much of the US Population do gays make up?

Last I heard it was like 3 to 4 percent.

3 to 4 percent of the population and they're well on their way to getting THEIR agenda passed.

HELLO!

Hard working Americans make up 50 percent of this country!

Do you think Chik-Fil-A was a fluke? Hell no it wasn't.
A VERY vocal minority can make serious change.

We have to be VERY vocal. VERY Aggressive. VERY passionate.

A majority doesn't automatically get us what we want anymore.

People are saying it's too late and it's all doom and gloom. But I remember just a few years ago.. people were talking about a sleeping giant being awakened.

Remember the woman confronting Arlen Spector? There are TONS of people who don't even involve themselves in politics.

To get our message out we're going to have to fight like there's no tomorrow.

Because if we don't.. there may not be one.

Having said that I'm open to suggestions as to where we should start. Let's take this one step at a time.

What's the easiest thing we could do to organize and make a small change? Start small and work your way up!
How do you boil a frog???

Let's hear some suggestions Freepers!


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1 posted on 11/07/2012 2:45:05 PM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: ConservativeMan55

We’re going to have to be AGGRESSIVE if we want this country back.

A very vocal minority can make a BIG impact. And we’re not totally in the minority yet.

I say we start with voter fraud. Let’s address it. Otherwise everything else is a moot point.


2 posted on 11/07/2012 2:46:47 PM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: ConservativeMan55

How is it that gays can get their agenda passed being in such a small minority??

They are AGGRESSIVE. They don’t back down from a fight. Heck we could find 3 to 4 percent here on FR willing to enact “change”


3 posted on 11/07/2012 2:48:31 PM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: ConservativeMan55
Perhaps consider the concept of not turning your children over to the educrats, even if it means missing out on that Free Federal Lunch.

So, they miss all that training in revisionist history, the New Math, bullying, cyber-bully, too.

Hmmm, with all those benefits, perhaps I should reconsider...

4 posted on 11/07/2012 2:48:49 PM PST by elk
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To: ConservativeMan55

.3% ~ not 3% ~ miniscule number. They are best known for advertising their presence. Getting dates is, as I’ve heard, quite difficult when you are at .3%.


5 posted on 11/07/2012 2:49:37 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: ConservativeMan55; Jim Robinson

Read this and see if it makes you feel any better.

I don’t think all hope is lost.


6 posted on 11/07/2012 2:49:41 PM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: ConservativeMan55

Exactly correct. We must begin TODAY to take our country back. If we need to admit our mistakes let us do so but let us all with a sense of destiny decide that today is The Day


7 posted on 11/07/2012 2:50:18 PM PST by Nifster
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To: muawiyah

Oh wow it is even smaller than I thought?


8 posted on 11/07/2012 2:50:45 PM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: Nifster

I agree.

I think we begin the 2014 campaign TODAY.


9 posted on 11/07/2012 2:52:27 PM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: ConservativeMan55

Take the state.

Despite our losses we still kept our majority of house seats in Michigan and flipped one to tea party. Most important to us is the fact that we crushed two horrifying union ballot proposals and a disastrous green energy proposal.

In the long run we need to seriously consider how to overturn the 17th amendment to put senators back under the control of the states.


10 posted on 11/07/2012 2:54:09 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: elk

That’s a great idea.

I’m also thinking there is a large portion of the population that we haven’t reached out to.

And the Libs haven’t either. They are people that either don’t vote, or just casually vote.

They’re sitting, waiting to be educated.


11 posted on 11/07/2012 2:54:37 PM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: ConservativeMan55

I’m reminded of Bluto’s big speech in Animal House.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/mv-RsJQ/blutos_big_speech/


12 posted on 11/07/2012 2:54:37 PM PST by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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To: ConservativeMan55
Last I heard it was like 3 to 4 percent.

They count the countries prison inmates, because they don't have a choice. They just have sex with each other, so the homosexuals add them to their tally.

There really aren't that many. They're a very, very small dysfunctional fringe group. They just make a lot of noise so people will believe there's more of them (Alinski tactic). That's why they're always in peoples faces. "There must be millions of them! They're everywhere!" (people don't notice they're the same ones showing up over and over again).

13 posted on 11/07/2012 2:56:03 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: cripplecreek

That’s an excellent idea.

Notice how the Senate is always more liberal than the House.


14 posted on 11/07/2012 2:56:32 PM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: ConservativeMan55

>>I say we start with voter fraud. Let’s address it. Otherwise everything else is a moot point.>>

AGREED!

Remember when Pubs insisted on being allowed into the vote sorting room after George W. was said to lose his second election? A large crowd of people stood in the hallway and shouted, “Let us in, Let us in.”

They got in and took a picture of a Lib deliberately switching a vote to the Lib.

And this time some voting precincts allowed on the spot sign up and tossed their Lib votes into the to-be-counted pile instead of reserving them to see if they’d voted already.


15 posted on 11/07/2012 2:58:04 PM PST by kitkat
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To: cripplecreek

Local government is a great place to start. Nothing is going to happen overnight. Time to take back the schools, media, local government.


16 posted on 11/07/2012 2:58:34 PM PST by Txngal
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To: concerned about politics

Yep! A very small minority.

But they get their stuff passed. They got THEIR agenda passed.

I’m thinking we need to start a 50 state coordination strategy.

The wheels are beginning to turn. We have enough people to make a difference right here on FR.


17 posted on 11/07/2012 2:58:34 PM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: ConservativeMan55

Crush the media into hell and we can easily take back the country.


18 posted on 11/07/2012 2:59:41 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: kitkat

Agreed.

I say we need to start lobbying for better Voter Id laws. Strict voter ID laws.

If we all work together we can get some incredible things passed.


19 posted on 11/07/2012 3:01:08 PM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: unixfox

Term limits.


20 posted on 11/07/2012 3:02:01 PM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: ConservativeMan55

Not with Bonehead, Cantor and McConnell.
U r living in a fantasy world. Get real.


21 posted on 11/07/2012 3:04:52 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: ConservativeMan55

Seriously, can we form and activate an American Christian Spring? The Arab Muslims/brotherhood sure did see positive results....why do us


22 posted on 11/07/2012 3:05:05 PM PST by Ms Mable
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To: ConservativeMan55
For the last year Gallup has been adding sexual orientation to the series of standard questions they use in their polls. That's during a period of 9% response rates.

Gallup found that 3.5% of their respondents indicated GBLT relationships.

Understanding that all polls are easily manipulated by a small group that does not pass up the chance to answer them, a very small less than 1% group can actually be made to seem much larger simply because they answer pollster calls with a higher than normal frequency.

When a small group always answers and the normal population answers only 9% of the time, that means the small group makes apparent size 11 times bigger than reality.

So, when gays always answer Gallup polls ~ probably because they know that question is being asked ~ and they turn out to be 3.5% of respondents, you divide that by 11 and that will give you just a little over .3% as the real answer.

VIrtually all other polls where they ask sexual orientation they usually end up with a large number of non-respondents anyway ~ non-gays have an aversion to answering questions from strangers about sex. Gays have no such aversion ~ it's just more advertising for them. So, the real answer may actually be even less if we factor in the aversion factor for the non-gays. That'd be .15% ~ or just 15/10000.

23 posted on 11/07/2012 3:05:50 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: ConservativeMan55
I think we begin the 2014 campaign TODAY.

Not me, I have given my all for years to facilitate change and other then GW's victory, is has all been for naught. I woke up this AM and decided to lay off the politics. We have to recognize we are in the minority and our dear R leaders are "too nice" to fight........we can't do it alone.

Maybe the establishment R's should quit given us flawed and boring candidates.

24 posted on 11/07/2012 3:05:59 PM PST by estrogen (Vote vote vote)
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To: ConservativeMan55

We were better off when state legislatures chose senators. The 17th was snake oil sold under the guise of empowerment when it really did nothing more than strip power from the states. Its also a great example of why the national popular vote is a nation killing idea.

The GOP has a firm hold over Michigan but Detroit, Ann Arbor and Flint elect two senators who hold no loyalty to the state.


25 posted on 11/07/2012 3:07:26 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: ConservativeMan55
Patronize businesses of like minded people.

Do not give your money to, and do not hire people who vote against your interests.

26 posted on 11/07/2012 3:10:54 PM PST by skeeter
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To: ConservativeMan55

Romney lost by less than 1% of the popular vote.

All we really need to do is change the vote of 5% of the Obama voters in the battle ground states.

Zero in on the ones that already the closest ideologically/culturally and focus on them like a laser.

We don’t have to take back 50% of the population.


27 posted on 11/07/2012 3:13:11 PM PST by Al Gore Vidal
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To: ConservativeMan55

Elections come down to 11 states and whoever controls the purse strings to handout programs can continue to influence votes.

I stole the above quote.


28 posted on 11/07/2012 3:13:36 PM PST by diamond6 (Pray........pray very hard!!)
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To: ConservativeMan55
Term limits.

As well as jail cells for those who disobey the Constitution.

29 posted on 11/07/2012 3:13:36 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: ConservativeMan55

>>I say we need to start lobbying for better Voter Id laws. Strict voter ID laws.>>

I’m in NY State. I wasn’t even asked for ANY form of identification. I simply had to sign my name under my last vote. Anyone to whom I had ever sent a check, etc. could have copied my writing and signed the book and stolen my vote.

In addition we use the paper ballots where you fill in the circles and then put it in the machine which registers your vote. There was nothing to indicate at that point that my vote was for Romney, the machine just swallowed it.


30 posted on 11/07/2012 3:14:49 PM PST by kitkat
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To: ConservativeMan55
"Maryland, Maine and Washington. With many more to come in future elections right? How much of the US Population do gays make up? Last I heard it was like 3 to 4 percent."

You are forgetting what I suppose could be best referred to as force multipliers. All things being equal, three or four people facing off against 100 would not stand a chance. However, if you give those three or four a few hundred yards stand off, concertina and claymores to channel the 100, and a few M249 SAWs, then the 100 would not fare so well.

The minority gays have such multipliers; a sympathetic media, widespread propoganda in the public schools, friendly courts that will promote their agenda, even some denominations that feel the importance of promoting their acceptance.

I'm certainly not saying you haven't made a valid point; a small minority can effect huge changes, but they need some leverage that gives them an advantage that disproportionately amplifies their small numbers.

31 posted on 11/07/2012 3:16:03 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: ConservativeMan55

The gays have the media totally owned. They run it, they display themselves on it, and TV is the world’s reality.

There is something about a glowing TV screen that hypnotizes people. I mean really hypnotizes them.


32 posted on 11/07/2012 3:17:01 PM PST by squarebarb ( Fairy tales are basically true.)
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To: ConservativeMan55
How is it that gays can get their agenda passed being in such a small minority??

That's because they approve of gays and use them to promote their sick agenda.

They hate conservatives. We had three fantastic black conservatives, Herman Cain, Allen West and Mia Love, during this election cycle and they trashed them all. They will hate us and ignore us even when our numbers dwindle down to a similar percentage as gays, blacks or Hispanics. Hell, our own party doesn't give a crap about us.

I hate to be so negative but it is over. For the next election, if there is one, there will be over 50% on government handouts who will vote for any Democrat that promises more handouts. I hate to say this but if Hillary decides to run in 2016, they will elect her with even a greater percentage.

Bottom Line (and I hate to be so negative on this terrible day): Liberals HATE us and HOPE we die.

R.I.P. America

33 posted on 11/07/2012 3:21:54 PM PST by greenhornet68
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To: Al Gore Vidal

It’s easier to get out 2% more Republican voters. They are already there. Just give them a candidate with some ideas they want to see implemented and they’ll vote for him.


34 posted on 11/07/2012 3:33:45 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: greenhornet68

That is how I am feeling too. Can you imagine ever being able to pass a tax cut after Obamacare? You think throwing granny over the cliff was extreme. We would be portrayed as murderers every day.


35 posted on 11/07/2012 3:39:21 PM PST by God pays good
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To: ConservativeMan55

How much of the US Population do gays make up? Last I heard it was like 3 to 4 percent.


You do not understand the power of elitism, foreign invasion, systematic cultural cleansing and hate propaganda targeted at a native people in order to take their land, resources and way of life. Britian’s elite even selected a “superior” minority to help rule over and undo and enslave the native majority. How do you think the Brits took over India and large parts of Africa?

American-Americans would have to organize and do non-violent civil disobedience on a massive scale to move the global humanist powers that have conquered our constitutional Republic and demonized and cleansed our culture. Violent up-risings will just give them the excuse to commit genocide. People are as an infestation of cockroaches to humanists.


36 posted on 11/07/2012 3:41:40 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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The homo’s may only be 3%, but they run the schools. In my opinion, start with taking over the school boards. You don’t need any special skill set to be a board member. You just need to have the time.


37 posted on 11/07/2012 3:58:56 PM PST by logitech (Who's here so vile, that will not love his country? If any speak, for him I have offended)
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To: ConservativeMan55

To change the handout addiction in this country you’d have to end handouts. Detox. But that can only happen if society collapses. The courts and polls are no help. Which is why peaceful secession is the answer.


38 posted on 11/07/2012 4:01:21 PM PST by LifeComesFirst (http://rw-rebirth.blogspot.com/)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Why? Are you kidding me, you don’t know? People would rather be given a livelihoods than work for it. How you going to get people to want to work again? Only way is by imposing starvation...which could happen. That is probably the only way “back.”


39 posted on 11/07/2012 4:15:04 PM PST by ThePatriotsFlag
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To: estrogen

Blaming the “establishment” is looking for a boogie man that does not exist. We must look somewhere else.


40 posted on 11/07/2012 5:24:16 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: skeeter

Today I had an e-mail from a friend who said she made a sign and put on her front door that said, “If you voted for Obama, don’t knock!!” She meant it, too.


41 posted on 11/07/2012 5:26:44 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: muawiyah

You are correct. But given the overall drift of the country, trying to convert the most easily convertible of the Obama voters is necessary in order to maintain a conservative majority in congress and the office of POTUS over time.

Just holding the fort is not enough in the long run.

But again you are rightcorrect in what you suggest and perhaps the focus should start with conservativish citizens who are not voting but could be. Getting even half of them out would be an enormous advantage. But even with this I still think we have to actively and permanently be undertaking “conversion drives”.

I think the truth of the matter is is that conservatives as a whole are going to have to get much, much more proactive and aggressive. Declaring a “philosophical war” against the forces of the left if you will. Right now I honestly don’t think that conservatives are engaged in anything remotely like philosophical war. We like to talk amongst ourselves at forums like FR but this does nothing to beat back the relentless cultural force of the left.

We need our own version of what R.Emmett Tyyrell calls Kultur Smog.


42 posted on 11/08/2012 6:28:21 AM PST by Al Gore Vidal
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To: Al Gore Vidal
Well, of course, all of that ~ it's war.

We know where the Socons are ~ in church. Skim out the handful of Leftwingtards and push the rest of them to register and vote.

We also know where the Fiscons can be found ~ and it's not in affiliation with the National Chamber of Commerce ~ those guys are pro MJ, pro open borders, .... and entertain the Goobers with abortion and condom subsidies. We might be ahead EXCLUDING anyone with a NCC affilaition from participating in Republican politics ~ where they gonna' go ~ to the Democrats? HA!

Remember we are working with an uncivilized base of 90 million who don't vote and don't participate in political life ~ time to domesticate them, and the Republican brand is the best!

43 posted on 11/08/2012 6:45:59 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Al Gore Vidal

I think we had that in Breitbart and they knew it. And now he’s gone.


44 posted on 11/08/2012 6:48:25 AM PST by ConservativeMan55
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