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A new education system

Posted on 11/07/2012 12:06:58 PM PST by RevolutionaryTimes

Good day. Last night the citizens of the United States demonstrated that they wish to have Barak Obama be the leader of the sinking ship. I am not going to dwell on this fact, rather I am going to illustrate what I think the problem is. The problem, is the deterioration of the United States' Education System.

The deterioration of the system started before my time (I was born in 1984, ironically). My local schools all indoctrined myself and my peers with the liberal group think that is so prevalent in the school systems of today. I had always known that the revisionist clauses I was being taught were not the whole truth. I can only imagine how badly things are shaping up today when social media further pushes the errant ways of the school systems.

So, here's my plan. I am going to start a private school. I will not hire anyone who has any sort of teaching degree, for those are the people who have been taught all the wrong ways in my view. My school will be staffed by laid-off engineers, laid-off mechanics, and others who are looking to pass on their knowledge to a younger generation. My school will focus on science, math, and English. It will also teach an elementary understanding of classic education, which is something desperately missing from day's education system. By classical education, I mean a fundamental understanding of the languages Greek and Latin, along with a study of classical plays and poems such as Homer's Odyssey and other works of the time.

So, my friends, what I am looking for here are comments and feedback on the plausibility of this scheme. Our children are being spoon fed peas when they're hungry for steak.

Thanks for taking the time to read and comment. RT


TOPICS: Education
KEYWORDS: education

1 posted on 11/07/2012 12:06:59 PM PST by RevolutionaryTimes
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To: RevolutionaryTimes

Thank you for thinking outside the box and not blaming Obama for something that’s been going on for decades. (it cheapens the issue and gets in the way of fixing it)

I like the idea of having those who can, teach.


2 posted on 11/07/2012 12:15:57 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: RevolutionaryTimes

Great idea; however you’ll be struck down the first day of class by the teachers union.


3 posted on 11/07/2012 12:16:04 PM PST by duckman (I'm part of the group pulling the wagon!)
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To: RevolutionaryTimes

I like your idea. Where are you located? I am a software architect with a Masters in Management. I intend to retire from this work in the next few years and would enjoy teaching interesting subjects. By the way, I have been teaching software development for about 20 years either in the Air Force or at the community college level.


4 posted on 11/07/2012 12:16:31 PM PST by enotheisen (CMSGT USAF Ret)
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To: RevolutionaryTimes

Excellent article and excellent suggestion. We still have a few schools that teach God and Country and are private. Your suggestion would be a step in the right direction for a more useful citizen with excellent ethics.


5 posted on 11/07/2012 12:16:54 PM PST by Logical me
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To: RevolutionaryTimes

A worthy pursuit, that I have often wished to do myself, but in order to even attempt to make this a reality, you better have an army of lawyers


6 posted on 11/07/2012 12:18:38 PM PST by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: RevolutionaryTimes; All

Good idea...especially including Classical Education

Our schools need fixing...but I am a little leery of those who push for just teaching Science and Math in schools (simply because there are fewer jobs in those fields, as they have been shipped to India, ComChina, and other places). I like your inclusion of Classical Ed...there needs to be some mix of subject matter

There is nothing wrong with students learning history and Classical Antiquity. This would be much more beneficial than “Debbie has two Daddies” or “White People Suck” curricula in our schools today


7 posted on 11/07/2012 12:21:10 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Political maturity is realizing that the "R" next to someone's name does not mean "conservative")
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To: RevolutionaryTimes

Your concept is already up and running. Search “Classical Conversations” 1000’s of children have already gone through the program. Always looking to open schools in different areas.


8 posted on 11/07/2012 12:32:05 PM PST by happyhomemaker (Rejoice in hope, be patient in tribulation, be constant in prayer. Rom 12:12)
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To: RevolutionaryTimes

Privatize it.


9 posted on 11/07/2012 12:54:33 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: RevolutionaryTimes

A great idea. That’s my thought as well: we need to start over at ground level, to get results in 15 or 20 years. My advice on your venture: Look into doing it as a charter school. In some states, charter schools can hire whoever they want, plus you get state funds to run it. If the school is free for students (as opposed to charging private school fees), you will get much broader participation. Also there are other schools already based on this model. Investigate them and see how you can improve upon them. And finally - go for it!!!!!!


10 posted on 11/07/2012 1:26:18 PM PST by Hetty_Fauxvert ( "Go, Obama! ... Uh, no, we mean really ... go, okay? Hit the freakin' road, Barry!")
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert

A man in my state founded a very successful classical charter school. He was told he now has to use the new core curriculum standards or his charter will be revoked.


11 posted on 11/07/2012 1:53:00 PM PST by goldi
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To: RevolutionaryTimes

Well before your time would be the 1960s with the advent of K-12 progressive experiementation and student protests in higher eductation. The loss of conventional approaches to reading (emphasis on comprehension), writing (parts of speech, diagraming sentences, handwriting discipline and vocabluary) and mathematics (multiplication memorization, ratios and proporation, fractions etc) has created massive generational ignorance. In higher education, the elevation of social studies research methods (such as “qualitative method”) has watered knowledge down to a lowest common demoninator. Student motivation has likewise responded to the lowered expections of both K-12 and higher education.


12 posted on 11/07/2012 2:03:51 PM PST by yetidog
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The deck is stacked against you. ALL teachers have to have at least a teaching certificate certified by ... you guessed it. The very same state you’re trying to avoid.


13 posted on 11/07/2012 2:17:14 PM PST by pacific_waters
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Here's a chart that shows which states require certification for teachers in charter schools. I am not sure how up to date it is. But each state has different requirements. http://mb2.ecs.org/reports/report.aspx?id=93
14 posted on 11/07/2012 2:49:40 PM PST by Hetty_Fauxvert (FUBO, and the greedy voters you rode in on.)
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To: familyop

It would be run though a 503c. We’d pay all our taxes, no unions. If you are ineffective, you would be fired. Basically the anti-Public Ed.


15 posted on 11/07/2012 4:03:42 PM PST by RevolutionaryTimes
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To: pacific_waters

Yes, I thought about that myself, I think the approach to circumvent this would be to offer the service as an alternative to home schooling; by showing that we were teaching things without bias and having people with a whole brain instructing the students, that their kids would receive a superior education.

Further, I would like to offer this up: If you think that I am going to let some red tape get in the way of a change I know is critical to the success of our nation, you’re wrong :). My war will be fought by encouraging the minds of our nation’s children to think and use reason, individual achievement, if you will.

The operation would be funded through a 503c not-for-profit corporation. I cannot use a Charter system, because as another commentator pointed out, the system can revoke our charter unless we comply with their terrible teachings.

For those who wonder; I reside in South West Michigan, in the north of Kalamazoo area.


16 posted on 11/07/2012 4:10:38 PM PST by RevolutionaryTimes
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