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Why Obama Won
My fevered brain | 11/7/2012 | KK

Posted on 11/07/2012 11:12:51 AM PST by KosmicKitty

Many pardons but search does not appear to be working right now.

Since 3am this morning when I got up and checked the election results, I've been trying to figure out what happened. Mr. Kitty sent me a blog post that I really think explains why BO actually won a second term.

And while it may be combination of many things, I really do believe that the main reason Obama won is because of a dramatic change to the social structure of the United States.

Those of us old enough to remember the Carter presidency believed that, like Reagan's landslide victory, people would be so fed up with the economy, high gas prices, Middle East unrest, and so on, that Romney would win and win big. (When everything old is new again)

But what we didn't consider was the change in American culture that has happened in the last 30 years. Looking at the stats on the blog I have linked to, the largest group voting for Obama is single women, with or without children. In 1980, most women having children were married. now, women are marrying later or choosing not to marry at all whether of not they have children.

What we have now is a society where the traditional male role of husband/father has been supplanted by the government. 40% of all children are being born to single mothers, more than 70% if the mother is African American. America's voting population has experienced a dramatic change in the past 30 years.

What ever the cause, feminism, careers, etc., we have to face the fact that a large number casting their vote are looking at the government as a replacement for husband and father.

I really believe that it's not that Mitt wasn't conservative enough, or the evangelicals stayed home, or whatever. It's the fact that the voting population has changed and the majority of women voting aren't voting for a president, but are voting for government to support them.

If the republicans and/or conservatives want to win, they are going to have to find a way to address the issue of government as supporter/daddy for a majority of the women voters


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I told Mr Kitty we lost because of the sluts and nuts' vote.

1 posted on 11/07/2012 11:12:56 AM PST by KosmicKitty
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To: KosmicKitty

I agree totally!!!


2 posted on 11/07/2012 11:17:02 AM PST by OldEagle
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To: KosmicKitty
I told Mr Kitty we lost because of the sluts and nuts' vote.

Good explanation. Any ideas on how to counter that in the future, or are we doomed to head down the path of oblivion?

3 posted on 11/07/2012 11:17:02 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Never Underestimate the Power of Evil)
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To: KosmicKitty

Too many STUPID people


4 posted on 11/07/2012 11:17:16 AM PST by notaliberal (We are all communist's now!)
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To: KosmicKitty

How about voter/election fraud? Seems like the simplest answer to me.


5 posted on 11/07/2012 11:18:49 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Doomed...the sluts and nuts don’t use the birth control they so desperately wanted...


6 posted on 11/07/2012 11:19:20 AM PST by IMTOFT (At least I'm enjoying the ride...)
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To: KosmicKitty
If the republicans and/or conservatives want to win, they are going to have to find a way to address the issue of government as supporter/daddy for a majority of the women voters

If we do that, what makes us different?

7 posted on 11/07/2012 11:19:22 AM PST by Edgerunner (Second Amendment Spoken Here)
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To: KosmicKitty
I think before we start discussing changing trends and demographics as the reason behind Obama's apparent victory, we have to look at what happened on the ground yesterday, and why the vote totals were so off. It's highly unlikely that the reputable analysts and pollsters could all be so far off.

Even though we didn't have the candidate we wanted, the message was good, and Republicans were excited. We should see this defeat as a reason to abandon any of that, but to look into fighting election fraud and other insidious liberal tactics.

8 posted on 11/07/2012 11:19:58 AM PST by Kleon
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To: KosmicKitty

40% of all babies born in US are now bastards.

Latino now a solid Dem voter block. All those food stamp ads in Spanish? Now Dem voters.

Younger voters are brainwashed libtards. Social conservative issues alienate them.

It’s bad and will only get worse. Third world America in 40 years or less.


9 posted on 11/07/2012 11:22:00 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: KosmicKitty

we lost because the GOP is feckless and weak...they let the rats and media carry the narrative that the Tea Party was racist, there was a war against women in the GOP, the GOP hates illegals for 4+ years now and never fought back...

as far as a change in culture; if Romney got the same number of votes as George Bush in ‘04 he likely wins...if he got the same number of votes as Mclame in 08 there’s at leadt a recount.... obamugabe barely got 50% of the vote and was 7mill below his tally of ‘08...

last nights results have nothing to do with culture change- its people who are pissed off that the GOP does not fight for them the way many of us fight for the GOP/conservative values...


10 posted on 11/07/2012 11:23:00 AM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: KosmicKitty

There were also the “Poor widdle Pwesident! He twy so hard! We need to give him more time!” people. The worst of the bunch.


11 posted on 11/07/2012 11:23:01 AM PST by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: Edgerunner

“address” doesn’t mean embrace. At least I don’t think that’s what was meant.


12 posted on 11/07/2012 11:23:02 AM PST by cdcdawg
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To: equaviator
How about voter/election fraud? Seems like the simplest answer to me.

Originally, that's what I thought too, but the info about the populations voting for BO made me re-think the fraud thing.

Not to say that voter fraud didn't happen, but I think the changing demographics had a much greater impact.

13 posted on 11/07/2012 11:23:13 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: KosmicKitty
1. Changing U.S. demographics and more dependent people who see government as the answer.

2. White women. For sociological reasons some white women were less concerned about the economy and more focused on personal rights, etc.

3. Media bias - no coverage of the Obama miscues. Media in general became outright advocates of Obama.

4. Sandy-the storm. Presidents do very little but tie up traffic in the aftermath of a storm. The media gave Obama a 4-5 day bump in the polls.

5. Chris Christie-and his "man-love" moment with Obama. The bellicose Governor seemed confused and petulant when confronted with his going way-to-far performance as a lap dog to Obama.

6. Candy Crowley - in the third debate for making the wrong call on the President's remarks when the President looked like a deer in headlights. Obama was rescued by Crowley.

7. Romney campaign for not building a better ground game in Ohio and in other swing states.

8. Chief Justice John Roberts. His chosen moment in history became the death knell for those opposed to ObamaCare. The remaining firewall became the election.

9. The Obama campaign for scaring people more effectively than Romney. Romney ran on more positives than Obama.

10. Us. The Romney supporters could we have done more?

14 posted on 11/07/2012 11:24:13 AM PST by Tugo (A simple sojourners.)
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To: KosmicKitty
Can you say Lebensborn?
15 posted on 11/07/2012 11:24:41 AM PST by BA63
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Apparently, the occupants of the geographical entity once conown as the “United States” simply have collectively decided they cannot stand prosperity.

Or at least a majority of those who voted seem to believe.

A short photo-op with Governor Christie of New Jersey is apparently the one thing that stuck in people’s minds as they went to the voting booth. That was conclusive proof that the Current Occupant was “compassionate”.

Nothing else seemed to much matter.


16 posted on 11/07/2012 11:25:24 AM PST by alloysteel (Bronco Bama - the cowboy who whooped up and widened the stampede.)
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To: KosmicKitty
The main reason we lost, the main reason freedom lost, is that there are now too many people in the wagon and not enough pulling it.

I do think this may be the beginning of the end of civilization.

17 posted on 11/07/2012 11:26:00 AM PST by logic101.net (Support OUR troops, NOT their's!)
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To: God luvs America

Agree with you on this. If our voters were committed to winning, we would have won BIG. Hell, there were even a significant percentage of freepers that didn’t vote for our candidate!


18 posted on 11/07/2012 11:28:04 AM PST by tatown (Obama was right, it was a 'one term proposition')
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To: KosmicKitty
Democrats are better at getting their core constituency out to vote. Simple as that. They're more likely to use scare tactics to do so.

the Democratic ground game is succeeding in getting their voters to take the actions necessary to cast a vote for the President, while Republicans are not keeping pace.

Republicans believe that if they send out the right message, it will motivate people to get out and vote.

19 posted on 11/07/2012 11:29:15 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: KosmicKitty

A good war will solve that demographic problem. Coming right up!


20 posted on 11/07/2012 11:29:28 AM PST by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningful to say)
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To: KosmicKitty
I don't know if this is the post you looked at (probably not), but my own take, for what it's worth: What the Right Doesn't Get About Elections
Ever since the primary debate when George Snuffleupagus seemingly out of nowhere asked Willard Mitt Romney about birth control (he’s Mormon, so I guess his position is “missionary”), we should have known how the leftists in the media and the Obama campaign (redundant, I know) intended to define the campaign. Because on radio ads, on TV, and on the web, the Democrats tried to make this election about a single issue:

The right to slut.

Or more precisely, the right to slut without the responsibility of consequences. The famous “gender gap” isn’t really a gap based on gender. The right overwhelmingly wins older and married women. The “gender gap” should more accurately be called the slut vote.


21 posted on 11/07/2012 11:30:22 AM PST by Thane_Banquo
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To: Edgerunner
If we do that, what makes us different?

That's the question, exactly, How do we get across to a generation of women that has been raised to believe that they don't need a man and that the government will provide for them that THEY are the ones who are really suffering.

I was listening to Rush on the way home from work today and he was talking about all of the minority role models in the GOP and how they all benefitted from hard work and their parent's sacrificing for them.

How do we get across to these women that, while they may feel "liberated" they are really being enslaved? How can we explain the feeling of sacrifice and hard work and the feeling of accomplishment that comes with it?

22 posted on 11/07/2012 11:31:00 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: logic101.net
The main reason we lost, the main reason freedom lost, is that there are now too many people in the wagon and not enough pulling it. I do think this may be the beginning of the end of civilization.

This statement nailed it!..if only it were not true

23 posted on 11/07/2012 11:31:11 AM PST by BA63
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Good government starts at home.
Then proceed to your community.
If your community supports constitutional government then move to your city or county government and use the tools our Founders provided to us to make them return to constitutionality.
Continue up the chain.

Now, how does good government start at home? Mother/Father, father is the authority and the ‘leader’ of the family government. Children can learn how good government works at home.

Schools are supposed to teach civics, but don’t. In your community, use your skills to re-institute civics, so children understand the dangers of other systems of government to their freedom and well being.

This is where you begin. It is the very thing the communists in our country targeted to destroy.


24 posted on 11/07/2012 11:32:01 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: KosmicKitty

Rush nailed it:

From another thread

Half the country is made of children, Obama got re-elected by being Santa Claus, and WE”RE supposed to be the ELVES that make everything!


25 posted on 11/07/2012 11:33:40 AM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: KosmicKitty
they are going to have to find a way to address the issue of government as supporter/daddy for a majority of the women voters

The only way to address this issue is to offer them more goodies than do the democrats.

We can either choose to out-bid the democrats for their vote or we can try to convince them that liberty and self sufficiency embodied in our founding documents is the best way to go.

I think we know which message will prevail. We are screwed.

26 posted on 11/07/2012 11:33:58 AM PST by skeeter
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To: KosmicKitty
Many have asked, "What is the price of freedom?"

Last night we received the answer: $9/mo. in birth control pills.

27 posted on 11/07/2012 11:34:21 AM PST by douginthearmy
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To: equaviator

No way.

Look at the numbers it was low R turnout.


28 posted on 11/07/2012 11:35:48 AM PST by Michael.SF. (Obama Lied, Stevens died.)
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To: alloysteel
A short photo-op with Governor Christie of New Jersey is apparently the one thing that stuck in people’s minds as they went to the voting booth.

Four long years of doing everything to destroy this Country and Hussein gets one photo op with Chris "Krispy Kreme" Christie slobbering over him on one day and it gets he re-elected.

Everything happens for a reason and we may never know or understand why this tribulation has been visited upon us.

29 posted on 11/07/2012 11:37:12 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Never Underestimate the Power of Evil)
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To: KosmicKitty

Rush put it best today: In a country of children where the option is Santa Claus or work, what wins?


30 posted on 11/07/2012 11:38:51 AM PST by COBOL2Java (The GOP-e said "Beat a Marxist with a Liberal!" What a colossal blunder.)
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To: KosmicKitty

MSM—MSM—MSM—MSM—MSM—PERIOD End of argument


31 posted on 11/07/2012 11:39:35 AM PST by uncbob
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To: KosmicKitty
I am now of the opinion that we should surrender. Completely capitulate to the ruling party. Demand our representatives hand President Obama anything and everything he wants on a silver platter. No hesitation, it's time to stop trying to pull half the country back from a social and economic abyss, it's time to get out and help push the cart over the ledge!

We can't stop abortion, gay marriage or any of the other destructive issues that have been laid on our door step and soon the government will insist that everyone take a bite from the poison apple or else...

In time we could bring change to this country but not now, not for at least 4 years and most likely a lot more than that. We are going to have to make changes from within, we're going have to go to ground and work our way into the ruling machinery so we can toss our shoes into the gears at some point in the distant future. Good luck and God Bless the FR
32 posted on 11/07/2012 11:39:52 AM PST by The Louiswu (Pray for America)
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To: Thane_Banquo

Not the blog I was looking at, but that says it right there.

Confession, in my younger days I bought into the whole, I bought into the whole “a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle”. Luckily for me, with age comes wisdom and I realized that what is being sold to women is a bad set of goods.

Once you give up responsibility for yourself, you are a prisoner to those who provide for you.

How can conservatives get that message out?


33 posted on 11/07/2012 11:39:58 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: Michael.SF.

I travel to urban areas throughout the country for work. I don’t think many people truly grasp the demographics that are developing in this country. They recall the days of their youth a few decades ago and see things as relatively the same.

I have been to parts of Queens, NY that literally look nothing like the United States. Huge concentrations of people, where perhaps 5 -8% were Caucasian. I am not talking about a black/white thing, I am talking about unchecked immigration that amounts to a total invasion of the country I knew as a child.


34 posted on 11/07/2012 11:42:03 AM PST by Codeflier (Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama - 4 democrat presidents in a row and counting...)
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To: KosmicKitty

When the huge recession economic disaster hits—the ME explodes and terrorism comes to our shores the MSM will have the seep convinced they never had it so good and they will lap it up


35 posted on 11/07/2012 11:42:16 AM PST by uncbob
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To: Tugo
Good top ten. Suggest #11, the masterful "Vote for revenge." Our own pundits were flummoxed and could not even understand the message asking, "Revenge for what?" But for the left and all of those who are victims in their own delusional minds that they all deserve to be gods and goddesses with unlimited money,etc. Revenge is sweet, revenge is good, revenge is pay back large.

The white rich Presidential-looking Romney and his Father Knows Best family, ultra-wholesome, ultra successful etc. said "I vote for love my country." His 'vote for Country', could not resonate with our majority victim class like good old 'revenge.'

36 posted on 11/07/2012 11:43:57 AM PST by masadaman
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To: The Sons of Liberty
Good explanation. Any ideas on how to counter that in the future, or are we doomed to head down the path of oblivion?

That is the reason why I posted. I hope to get a discussion about what we can do to counter the victim mentality that the left pushes.

37 posted on 11/07/2012 11:44:04 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: masadaman

The revenge factor is the old REPARATIONS notion materialized.


38 posted on 11/07/2012 11:46:43 AM PST by Tugo (A simple sojourners.)
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To: God luvs America
we lost because the GOP is feckless and weak...they let the rats and media carry the narrative that the Tea Party was racist, there was a war against women in the GOP, the GOP hates illegals for 4+ years now and never fought back...

I think we have to admit right now that we have lost the media. We can gripe about it all we want, but we HAVE to find a way to get our message out there.

39 posted on 11/07/2012 11:47:20 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: Michael.SF.

Take away the votes cast by illegal aliens and other non-registered voters and I think it would have made all the difference.


40 posted on 11/07/2012 11:47:53 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: KosmicKitty

Sounds pretty plausable, but there isn’t a damned thing we can do about it. The USA we used to know is gone, probably for good.


41 posted on 11/07/2012 11:48:34 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: JennysCool
There were also the “Poor widdle Pwesident! He twy so hard! We need to give him more time!” people.

Hence, the "nuts" vote :-)

42 posted on 11/07/2012 11:48:50 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: JennysCool
There were also the “Poor widdle Pwesident! He twy so hard! We need to give him more time!” people.

Hence, the "nuts" vote :-)

43 posted on 11/07/2012 11:49:09 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: Michael.SF.

To me that’s the REAL question. Why low R-voter turnout?

I sure wouldn’t have thought it was the case after reading the voting precinct reports here on FR yesterday.

Just doesn’t make sense.


44 posted on 11/07/2012 11:49:27 AM PST by txmissy
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To: hedgetrimmer

Precisely and excellent post. The progressive/communists didn’t go for the whole enchilada in one swoop.

They have been like terminates eating away at the core foundations and structures that built this wonderful and magnificent country.

Taking over the schools and directing the education of multiple generations of Americans. Controlling the media as to what message the masses need to hear.
Mandating the complete separation of church and state until the combining of them suits their purpose.
Growing unions in both the private and public sectors...and on and on and on.

The USA may look good from the outside looking in, but the structure is rotten to the core.

I will do all I can to prevent the terminates from taking over my home, my children and my community. I can’t control what others do, but I surely can try and raise my children with traditional (albeit...uncool as defined by the masses) morals and values, and I can control my own actions and behaviors.


45 posted on 11/07/2012 11:49:58 AM PST by ebersole
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To: IMTOFT

Not only that. The faggots keep adopting and brain-wash them into being more libtardic than their freak “parents” so they add up the dirt in the gene pool.


46 posted on 11/07/2012 11:50:31 AM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: God luvs America
last nights results have nothing to do with culture change- its people who are pissed off that the GOP does not fight for them the way many of us fight for the GOP/conservative values...

Mitt Romney himself was proof that the GOP would not fight for those values; rhetoric aside, his history shows that he's a liberal, socialist, statist.
Even before the primaries, the establishment (GOP Party [leaders]) had anointed him.

47 posted on 11/07/2012 11:52:46 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: KosmicKitty
The reality is this: it is not Mr. Robinsons fault Romney lost, it is not Romney or Ryan's fault that they lost; they are both honest, decent, honorable men who are infinitely better qualified than Obama and Biden to run the country, and they both ran a solid, hard fought campaign.

The fault for failure does not lie with any of these people, the fault for defeat lies with America, and squarely upon the Americans who voted them into power. Nearly every decent, honest and honorable candidate honorable campaigns based upon traditional American values running for election on our side lost to evil, dishonest, dishonorable, godless, Marxist-Socialist opponents who were purposely chosen by the electorate INSTEAD of the decent, honest and honorable candidates running against them.

What happened? = America is under the direct judgment of Almighty God, that's what happened and will continue to happen.

Some are already playing the blame game but the reality is: The problem with the results of this election do not rest with Romney, nor Ryan, Barone or Morris. Romney and Ryan are honorable and good men (as men count goodness)and they ran an admirable, hard-fought campaign.

The problem rests with us, it is one of the heart and soul of America itself. We have forsaken Christ, and forsaken His Word. God did not have mercy and deliver us. I believe we are under the judgment of Almighty God as a direct result of our ongoing lawlessness, ungodliness and sin. He has given America over to our sin and degradation (cf. Romans 1:18-32)and we have reached the tipping point of no return as a nation. I do not want to say these things, it breaks my heart because I, along with millions of other believers love America, but God is not mocked:

"Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap. For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life. Let us not lose heart in doing good, for in due time we will reap if we do not grow weary. So then, while we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, and especially to those who are of the household of the faith. (Galatians 6:7-10) As a man sows, so shall he reap and we are reaping now what we have sown. Pray because at this point, the very existence and future of our nation rests in the hands and predetermined will of God. Romney, Ryan, no mere man or party can save America and her people, only the Lord Jesus Christ.

If the outcome of this elections stands (and it appears it has) and Obama gains reelection (and it appears he has), we are about to enter the refining crucible of Almighty God as a result of our sin and God's divine judgment as a nation and as individuals. The key is to know and stay close to/walk with the Lord Jesus in the midst of it all and to stay faithful to Him because things are going to get very bad from here on out. This was prophesied in the Word of God and we are privileged to see these harrowing events come to pass: "As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be at the coming of the Son of Man." (cf. Luke 17:26-33)

Those of us who know the Lord Jesus must follow the injunction to: "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not unto your own understanding, in all your ways acknowledge Him and He shall make your path straight." Proverbs 3:5-6

I wept, writing those words. It grieves my heart to say these things and to see what has become of our beloved country and to see God remove His hand of protection and blessing from America. The evil, wicked, dictator God has imposed upon us, and the utter shame and degradation which God has allowed to fester and cover the land from the top down, as a direct result of our rejection of Him and His Christ.

America is "Ichabod", ...the Lord has departed. That said, God is in control; all of this was prophesied and we are seeing it fulfilled before our very eyes.

Take heart, and find your hope and strength in the Lord Jesus Christ because He is coming back sooner than many people are willing to recognize or accept.

Nevertheless, not my will, but thy will be done, on earth, as it is in Heaven. Even so, come Lord Jesus.

48 posted on 11/07/2012 11:52:59 AM PST by Jmouse007 (Lord deliver us from evil, in Jesus name, amen.)
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To: KosmicKitty

An older and wiser friend told me...Every behavior in the US is now acceptable and nothing is taboo. It’s to the point where nobody should have their feelings hurt or to be judged for their immoral choices.


49 posted on 11/07/2012 11:53:30 AM PST by ebersole
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To: KosmicKitty

This disaster is probably the result of many things but your point is likely one of them. Our culture is conditioned to the “entitlement” mindset. Who needs dads to support children, we’ll just live off taxpayers.


50 posted on 11/07/2012 11:53:41 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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