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Vanity: Myths Destroyed

Posted on 11/07/2012 12:07:58 AM PST by over3Owithabrain

Unskewed polls.com Nate Silver is clueless GOP vote underestimated/DEM vote overestimated Anything Dick Morris says Groundswell of anger at Obama Bradley effect Romney had momentum PA was winnable WI was winnable

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To: ari-freedom
Very plausable. Maybe Americans really do want a Big Brother Government.

Well, they got it. All we can do now is sit back and watch.

21 posted on 11/07/2012 12:32:21 AM PST by MaxMax
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To: Crimson Elephant

Yep. Many otherwise normal, likable and successful people I see on Facebook really think women were going to lose their rights. We ignore these charges and they are now kicking our ass. It is absurd that women fall for that, but if we don’t argue it, they’ll believe it.


22 posted on 11/07/2012 12:34:30 AM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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To: over3Owithabrain

GOP lost presidency because the candidate did not have fire in the belly until too late (first debate). Nor did he express a clear and concise view of his principles or his plan (as Reagan did). People will vote for the devil they know rather than one that waffles.

Contrary to popular wisdom, GOP did not lose senate in 2010 and 2012 because candidates were too conservative. They lost because tea party nominated too many dumbkopf women in 2010 and too many stupid men in 2012. If you are too stupid to handle a press interview or debate question with MSM reporters we don’t need you in the senate. We need intelligent people like Paul Ryan who can articulate their plans and dodge idiotic questions about rape, who don’t dabble in witchcraft, etc.

The tea party is shooting itself in the foot, because people are blaming the message, not the messengers.


23 posted on 11/07/2012 12:34:46 AM PST by KingofZion
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To: nutmeg

everyone who can...

votes anti white

i have tried to explain this here for 12 years but whites...northern ones in Becky land just don’t get it

we have created a culture where anyone not white is to be thought of as a victim of white oppression

and the vast majority do

it has crippled our ability to deal with any problem from immigration to urban crime to illegitimacy to Islam

and now the demographics are insurmountable

Asians voted 9 points higher this time than 2008 for Democrats

only bright side...white young kids voted for Romney 51%...8 point bump from 2008

still...i bet even Vietnamese voted Obama maybe


24 posted on 11/07/2012 12:35:12 AM PST by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: ari-freedom

Oh...

Perhaps a mixed twisted messages lets people down, too?

What exactly is the conservative agenda?

We are against homosexuals in the military, we are against homosexual marriage but we like homosexuals when they agree with us and tell us what we want to hear?

It is a schizophrenic mess in my opinion.

So do we decide we accept homosexuals because it is what we believe or it will win us elections?

Ann Coulter seems to think that is the way to go.

The whole thing is hypocritical as is.

I am not saying one way or the other but as it is, it is stupid r-tard B.S. FAKE.


25 posted on 11/07/2012 12:35:23 AM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Crimson Elephant

Solved got his 08 numbers from the Obama internals. Likely did the same this time.

Asians should be voting R. Must be some fake racism claim at work.


26 posted on 11/07/2012 12:38:52 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: over3Owithabrain

that right-wingers should do presidential politics instead of dealing with the state house.

(Let the RINOs obsess over all thing prezidential.) What a waste of time all this ROMNEY crap was.


27 posted on 11/07/2012 12:40:18 AM PST by campaignPete R-CT (campaigning for local conservatives)
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To: over3Owithabrain

Another myth - independents were huge with Romney and the remaining undecideds would break heavily to him.


28 posted on 11/07/2012 12:40:51 AM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: over3Owithabrain

Myths:

Blacks won’t turn out. Only 80% will vote Obama.

PA was in play.

Ryan will bring a state or two. Not even WI was picked up.

Gender gap is gone.

Dick Morris. Clueless.

Poll watching will help.


29 posted on 11/07/2012 12:43:41 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: over3Owithabrain

We can destroy all the myths, but people will create new ones in their place. That’s how people deal with unthinkable ideas.


30 posted on 11/07/2012 12:44:38 AM PST by matt1234 (As Obama sowed in the Arab Spring, so he is reaping in the Arab Fall.)
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To: A CA Guy
These are the reasons -- pure and simple. And, I personally, don't think we can reverse it.

I am honestly believing that we need to split up into two different countries -- the situation has gotten beyond repair and reconciliation.

31 posted on 11/07/2012 12:49:04 AM PST by wayne_shrugged
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To: nutmeg
Well the GOP had better move heaven and earth to dispell that myth NOW, or they will cease to be a party...

Even the Northeast RINOs don't seem to care - the entire GOP acts like responding to that characterization is beneath them.

Republicans have a huge message problem - they strongly desire to use government power to control behavior they don't like, but they still want to pretend they are the defenders of American liberty. The voters (quite correctly) are not buying it, but they are buying the Democrats' doing the exact same thing because it comes wrapped in free stuff.

32 posted on 11/07/2012 12:49:04 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: KingofZion
Your post is a spot on perfect analysis of why they lost.
33 posted on 11/07/2012 12:53:09 AM PST by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Do it today. Don't wait.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Not just Asian-Americans, but minorities in general put Obama over the top this time. Obama's gambit that he no longer needs white voters paid off.
34 posted on 11/07/2012 12:57:21 AM PST by Major Matt Mason ("Journalism is dead. All news is suspect." - Noamie)
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To: NeverForgetBataan

when our communist thug was elected, i feared a fdr model.
Horrible economics and he won 4 straight elections.
I am sooo depressed, i can’t even imagine what this place will look like in 4 years.
Demographics are horrible, it will be very difficult for anyone do to a better job than mitt did.


35 posted on 11/07/2012 1:01:55 AM PST by genghis
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To: genghis

“when our communist thug was elected, i feared a fdr model.
Horrible economics and he won 4 straight elections.
I am sooo depressed, i can’t even imagine what this place will look like in 4 years.
Demographics are horrible, it will be very difficult for anyone do to a better job than mitt did.”
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Agreed. Grim doesn’t describe it well enough.


36 posted on 11/07/2012 1:10:41 AM PST by NeverForgetBataan (I am become Barry... destroyer of wealth)
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To: KingofZion

I would not disagree entirely with that analysis, but don’t
be too hasty to throw the Tea Party under the bus. They did
support Ted Cruz and he won.

Akin and Mourdock are idiots.


37 posted on 11/07/2012 1:16:22 AM PST by NeverForgetBataan (I am become Barry... destroyer of wealth)
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To: wardaddy

Spot on wardaddy. And we only 60% of the white vote. The answer is not to kowtow to the Latino population and open borders and let the country go socialist, but to more or less unify the white vote... well, increase our white vote.


38 posted on 11/07/2012 1:21:00 AM PST by Hokestuk
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To: genghis

Closest pollster PPP, and NBC Wallstreet Journal. Worst pollster, Rasmussen and ARG.
I guess Silver was right. It is also looking like he nailed popular vote. Dick Morris and Karl Rove needs to explain themselves. I guess I skewed polls better skew them back.


39 posted on 11/07/2012 1:26:07 AM PST by chopperjc
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To: over3Owithabrain

If I never again hear the words - poll/s, polling, pollster - I will live a happy life.


40 posted on 11/07/2012 1:26:40 AM PST by texaschick
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