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This is what happens when you run a Liberal against a Marxist!
Vanity | 07 November 2012 | Trueblackman

Posted on 11/06/2012 10:27:31 PM PST by Trueblackman

Seems like many Republicans here want to blame Gary Johnson or something else for Mitt Romney losing the Presidency, but in reality it is the Party Establishment especially Karl Rove that are to blame for the reelection of Barrack Obama!

You see it was Karl Rove and the Republican Establishment that made sure no true Conservative ever had a chance for the nomination and actually believe that Conservatives would buy the lie that a Liberal Northeastern Republican remotely had a chance against an sitting Marxist.

This did not work in 2008 as well as 2012 and you will see them now push Jeb Bush as the party's next savior in 2016.


TOPICS: Education; Freeoples; History; Society
KEYWORDS: rino
If Conservative actually want to win again then they must stop allowing the Republicans to nominee ineffective Liberal candidates, who close the deal even under these conditions.
1 posted on 11/06/2012 10:27:35 PM PST by Trueblackman
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To: Trueblackman
If Conservative actually want to win again then they must stop allowing the Republicans to nominee ineffective Liberal candidates, who close the deal even under these conditions.

This could be the wakeup call that Conservatives need. An (R) next to a candidate's name is not good enough - either they are a Conservative or they are not.
2 posted on 11/06/2012 10:39:09 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: Trueblackman

no- this is what happens when a nation turns it’s back on God- We kicked God out, and God, even though He has been long suffering with us, has finally allowed us to have what we as a nation wanted- a nation without Him


3 posted on 11/06/2012 10:40:36 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: CottShop

You are correct. And I suspicion the one in the WH is in fact the anti-Christ


4 posted on 11/06/2012 10:43:57 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Trueblackman

Conservatism and the U.S. Constitution have both been dealt a death blow.

Learn to live with Marxism.

I fought for this country and today I realize that it was only a delaying victory. Communism is the future and I am not going to be part of it.

I will venture to say that most active service men/women will not re-up and you will be left with U.N. Forces ruling and enforcing our laws.

I have to decide where I’m going to go but I can’t stay here and watch this country turn into Obamas dream.

Goodby.


5 posted on 11/06/2012 10:47:05 PM PST by jongaltsr
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To: Trueblackman
   and you will see them now push Jeb Bush as the party's next savior in 2016

  I thought we were all out of moderates and had completely forgotten about Jeb Bush. So we have at least one more concession speech to look forward to in 2016.
6 posted on 11/06/2012 10:48:22 PM PST by Maurice Tift (You can't stop the signal, Mal. You can never stop the signal.)
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To: CottShop

You are absolutely right on. I’m not so sure God is going let His church stay living in this pit of filth for four more years!


7 posted on 11/06/2012 10:51:28 PM PST by lu shissler (an take his naiv)
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To: Trueblackman

They were so damned cocky and arrogant, they didn’t need the Tea Party!


8 posted on 11/06/2012 10:54:54 PM PST by lu shissler (an take his naiv)
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To: Trueblackman

They were so damned cocky and arrogant, they didn’t need the Tea Party!


9 posted on 11/06/2012 10:55:01 PM PST by lu shissler (an take his naiv)
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To: Maurice Tift

Yes the Karl Rovers will ensure another defeat in 2016, if allowed them to control the nomination process again.


10 posted on 11/06/2012 10:56:45 PM PST by Trueblackman (I would rather lose on Conservative principles than vote for a RINO candidate.)
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To: lu shissler

Also... Do you not remember the rules changes at convention? The GOP-e should have adapted some of the Paulbots idealism into the party platform. Their numbers would have made the difference tonight.


11 posted on 11/06/2012 11:04:07 PM PST by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Trueblackman

Exactly correct in the assessment.

However, the greater truth is that unless this nation does a II Chronicles 7:14 (be sure to read verse 13 also) - we have no hope of healing this land from the tyranny it has chosen for itself.

When not even the churches are willing to advocate that as the only course of action for this people - then we have conceded God’s governance in our lives. The truth that is unwavering is that a people who will not be governed by God will be ruled by the tyranny of men.

Here we are.


12 posted on 11/06/2012 11:04:39 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Trueblackman

Amen Brother.

Like I said in another post, we no longer have two parties.

We have Democrats and RINO’s joined and whats left of the rest of us.


13 posted on 11/06/2012 11:04:52 PM PST by Venturer
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To: lu shissler

And a pit of filth it trul;y is too- I never thought I would be living in a country where our own government conditions it’s young peopel to be sex objects- teachign them in schools to experiment sexually, to be ‘open to ‘new ideas’ sexually, to experiment with same sex, forcing young girls to get HPV vaccinations- handing out contraceptives to younger and younger children- forcing htem to take classes teachign about homosexuality- on and on it goes! Christ warned i nthe bible for adults NOT to harm the children in any way shape or form statign that to do so was akin to doing so directly to Him- and our ogvernemnt and schools ARE ignoring His warning- and infact shakign hteir fists in His face and doign exactly what He warned them NOT to do-

This nation truly is slipping into a pit of filth- and it’s just surprising that God has been longsufferign for asw long as He has- but I think the tiem has come where He’s removed His blessign from this once great nation and allowing this nation to wallow in it’s own filth- He’s handed them over to their own sin- the only problem htough is that thsoe who still follow God have to suffer because of the sins of those who have rejected Him-


14 posted on 11/06/2012 11:06:32 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: lu shissler

I’m not so sure God is going let His church stay living in this pit of filth for four more years!
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It isn’t only America that is fighting the Church it is all over the world.

Perversion and Homosexuals are taking command of religions all over the world. The Muslim hoards are growing, Religion is dying all over the Globe.


15 posted on 11/06/2012 11:08:44 PM PST by Venturer
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To: jongaltsr

Eventually, God will come as a thief. Frankly, the main issue is a question of how long each and every one of us can keep close to God throughout the entire ordeal.


16 posted on 11/06/2012 11:08:50 PM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: CottShop

I agree, it is sad. But at the same time, it will all be worth it, as we come before our Lord.


17 posted on 11/06/2012 11:14:34 PM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: Java4Jay

Goofy cult leader con men, like Ron Paul, have no place in politics.

Luckily the career politician is going away now.


18 posted on 11/06/2012 11:18:57 PM PST by ansel12 (Vote, but don't pretend.)
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To: Trueblackman

Thank you for posting this! I almost agree 100%, and I’ll explain my doubt.

The GOP throws all their weight behind the moderates in the primary cycles. The media, all too adverse to conservatives, gladly does their part, only to turn on said candidate for the Democrat come the general election. They use the tired, worn out lines that the independents won’t support a conservative. A conservative is too extreme, too out of touch, they say, to ever win in the general. Ususally conservative candidates split the vote, so this helps, and there are too many people who go along with the GOP and media. They figure, this guy is seemingly the most popular, so I should support him.

I said after Romney got the nomination that the GOP had once again given us another moderate candidate, and we’d see just how well it would work out this time. I was very skeptical. Sure enough. When you run a liberal lite against a liberal, people are going to pick the real thing. Now Romney did move to the right in the primaries, but his entire record contradicted that, and then he centered out some for the general. The libs were able to use terms like “Romneysia” to call into question the discrepancies between his past and how was running for the election.

The odd thing is, despite how adamantly opposed to Romney I was in the primary, he did grow on me, and I did believe that he, if he stayed true to the principles he espoused while campaigning, could turn this economy around.

That said, my doubt comes in that, maybe the demographics of this country are such and the beliefs of many Americans are such, that people simply want such a big government, that conservatives may be in trouble.


19 posted on 11/06/2012 11:23:07 PM PST by Pinkbell
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To: Pinkbell

Romney was another Liberal train wreak in the wake of McCain.


20 posted on 11/06/2012 11:25:58 PM PST by Trueblackman (I would rather lose on Conservative principles than vote for a RINO candidate.)
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To: Trueblackman

That had nothing to do with it.

Problem is that the takers finally outnumbered the creators.

Romney actually ran a good campaign, but the 47 percent worked really hard to take away what was not theirs.

Sadly, we are lost and this nation is gone. Now, it’s just to join them or leave them.


21 posted on 11/06/2012 11:26:58 PM PST by Professional
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To: Professional

Romney was a complete train wreak and wimp like McCain, he lost under these conditions and offer very little in place of the current mess.

The Rover Model has lost twice now, no need for a third time!


22 posted on 11/06/2012 11:29:47 PM PST by Trueblackman (I would rather lose on Conservative principles than vote for a RINO candidate.)
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To: Trueblackman

No, the country is moving more toward the left.

Notice that the unemployment level was only so low because there are fewer and fewer people working overall. This has been the trend for decades.

Democracy inevitably leads to communism. People find that they can appear generous by declaring their willingness to give other people’s money to the poor. Other people of course find that they can get this free stuff and have 100% free time for whatever recreational purpose they have while benefits never decrease.

In addition the constitution has been replaced by precedent. Judges no longer look at the constitution they look at precedent instead. And that includes even the silliest of precedents that came from a court that was intentionally packed to rubber stamp Roosevelts socialism in the new deal. So there is no barrier to this slide to communism though he founders intended the difficulty of amendment to make the constitution a barrier to evil. Any new precedent can be created at any time to replace any part of the constitution. All they have to do is connect some phrase in the constitution by any number of “this affects that somehow” links to whatever they want, and then suddenly the constitution favors their new law and it is binding precedent.

The only way to reverse this is to convince people of the truth. Once that is done the politicians and even the judges themselves will become more conservative. Also the media will become a little more conservative.

If you’re response is “they are just too dumb” or “they don’t listen to reason” then we are probably doomed to lose.

But no. Romney had the entire right wing extremely excited. He had massive Obama-like rallies. Anyone else would have to be better at communication, not just more conservative. And the more conservative they are the better they have to be at communication until you make conservatism the default belief before the election.

This is a pessimistic view but if you don’t see the problem you can’t fix it. And this is the problem: we are on the path to socialism not because we didn’t get a conservative through the primary but because people are finding out that its more rewarding and a hell of a lot less risky to get stuff for free than be vilified for being successful.


23 posted on 11/06/2012 11:32:05 PM PST by evandi
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To: Trueblackman

No. We lost because the dems have more voters. Get over this bs about mitt and bush. Our problem is, exactly what the founding fathers warned us about.

I am afraid to say, but the answer is, there is no answer


24 posted on 11/06/2012 11:34:26 PM PST by Professional
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To: Professional

Most people, who went to those rallies and thought afterwards about Romney’s past record of working with Democrats and moving the party to the Left, we the party got what is deserved another Presidential for the Rove model.


25 posted on 11/06/2012 11:41:48 PM PST by Trueblackman (I would rather lose on Conservative principles than vote for a RINO candidate.)
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To: Trueblackman

And you allow a Soros funded Venezualian company to count the votes.


26 posted on 11/06/2012 11:52:42 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: Trueblackman

A flaw of the moderate candidates is that they tend to want to be Mister Nice Guy. One of Romney’s biggest errors was not driving that nail in on Libya in the third debate. He had a golden opportunity in front of the American people, the same people who weren’t going to hear about it from the MSM, and he blew it.


27 posted on 11/06/2012 11:55:37 PM PST by Pinkbell
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To: Trueblackman

Bttt


28 posted on 11/06/2012 11:59:26 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: Trueblackman

Bttt


29 posted on 11/06/2012 11:59:41 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: Pinkbell

Of course remember the he is a nice guy campaign by Romney?


30 posted on 11/07/2012 12:07:02 AM PST by Trueblackman (I would rather lose on Conservative principles than vote for a RINO candidate.)
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To: Trueblackman

And which more conservative candidate that couldn’t win the Primary was going to win the general election


31 posted on 11/07/2012 1:09:34 AM PST by edzo4 (You call us the 'Party Of No', I call us the resistance.)
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To: Pinkbell

The majority who voted for Obama didn’t give a hoot about Libya.

They like Obama personally, like the goodies he gives them, and believe he is slowly fixing Bush’s bad economy because Clinton and Powell told them so.

They don’t investigate the truth, they follow mainstream news and pop culture. Obama is cool and cares. The rich white guy was gonna tie up their uteruses and put dark people in chains.


32 posted on 11/07/2012 1:13:34 AM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: Trueblackman
The Architect of Disaster

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33 posted on 11/07/2012 4:36:55 AM PST by greenhornet68
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To: Nifster

Zero is just one of several anti-Christ figures throughout our land and the world, at large....


34 posted on 11/07/2012 5:25:55 AM PST by ptsal (E)
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To: Trueblackman

This what we get for having too many primary debates and having the lib media orchestrate that circus designed to eliminate all the candidates one by one, except their choice. And Mitt Romney was that choice to run against Bathhouse Barry. The GOP blindly stepped right into a liberal media trap. Like most FReepers, Romney was my absolute last choice for the nomination, well maybe tied with Ron Paul. I voted against Barry, not for the flip flopping big government nominee.


35 posted on 11/07/2012 5:38:04 AM PST by rightly_dividing (Left behind; 4 Americans in Libya)
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To: Morpheus2009

Learn to TAKE (from the government and liberal entities) - Bleed them dry (Fast and Furious)
In the mean time - Take care of your own needs everyday and always insure that you don’t pay taxes by making coop agreements with like minded fighters. Help people like yourself who can circumvent government at every turn. The key here is to drain the looters and feed the producers.

Turn your home and the homes of your friends into “Galt’s Gultch”.

Let the government pay and pay and pay to the leaches and hangers on until they fail and the system collapses. (The faster the better). Let the leaches of society suffer for awhile. Let them RELEARN what it means to work to survive. Then come back and offer them work under your terms where fair minded men rule (without taxation and regulations up the wazu) and good work receives good pay and great work gets greater pay.

The quicker this happens the more infrastructure will remain viable. If this drags out the looters will only destroy or let rot the assets you will need to rebuild once they are destroyed.

Give people a fair wage for their work and no pay for bad work. Once they start to starve they will learn to work more honestly and only then will they understand that good reliable work gets respect as well as good rewards.


36 posted on 11/08/2012 12:16:02 PM PST by jongaltsr
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