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Washington state legalizes marijuana

Posted on 11/06/2012 9:36:26 PM PST by djf

I-502, a voter initiative designed to legalize the possession and personal use of Marijuana, appears to have passed.

With 50% of the statewide votes counted, the initiative leads with a 55% to 45% approval rating.

Up to one ounce of marijuana, grown at state-licensed facilities, and sold (and TAXED!) at state retail locations, will now be allowed.

There will be standards set for driving while impaired, as well as a zero-tolerance policy for persons under 21.

It is estimated it will take about a year for all the machinery to get set up before people can buy retail hooch!

Negotiations are expected between the state law and the federal level.


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1 posted on 11/06/2012 9:36:28 PM PST by djf
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won’t be long before welfare recipient get their monthly rations of marihuana.


2 posted on 11/06/2012 9:40:01 PM PST by Ancient Drive (DRINK COFFEE! - Do Stupid Things Faster with More Energy!)
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To: djf

Is it EBT approved?


3 posted on 11/06/2012 9:41:43 PM PST by barmag25
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To: djf

that should help with unemployment. because stoned people are exactly what employers are looking for. They even urine test potential employees so they can see which ones are smoking weed so they can them put their names at the top of the hiring list.


4 posted on 11/06/2012 9:42:54 PM PST by RC one
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To: djf

Was little Georgie Soros pimping this in Washington?


5 posted on 11/06/2012 9:43:14 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (REVENGE wins.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Don’t know.

Washington a few years back legalized medical marijuana.

I ain’t crazy about having a bunch of stoners around, but seems to me it makes sense to not waste LE resources on it.

And taking the money out of it might reduce crime.


6 posted on 11/06/2012 9:48:12 PM PST by djf (Political Science: Conservatives = govern-ment. Liberals = givin-me-it.)
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To: djf

He pimped the “medical” version here in Arizona until it was finally passed with a bunch of “provisional ballots”. (Probably Californians and Mexican Nationals).


7 posted on 11/06/2012 9:52:18 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (REVENGE wins.)
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To: djf

That is going to be the F’d up kids state to lead the nation to drugs then.
RIP.


8 posted on 11/06/2012 9:55:40 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: djf

"Washington state legalizes marijuana"



"Duuude!! That is SOOOO coool!!"

"Where are my Choom Brothers? Gotta Choom!!"

9 posted on 11/06/2012 9:59:26 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: djf

No state can “legalize” marijuana like this. It can “decriminalize” it - in the sense that the state says it won’t enforce its own criminal laws against medical marijuana users and growers - but it can’t actively permit it, as this would conflict with federal law.


10 posted on 11/06/2012 10:05:02 PM PST by Gluteus Maximus
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To: djf
[Up to one ounce of marijuana, grown at state-licensed facilities, and sold (and TAXED!) at state retail locations, will now be allowed.]

I think it should be processed, blended for uniformity and packaged just like commercial cigarettes—filter or non-filter, menthol, etc. If consumers buy a loose product in a plastic bag with a tax stamp on it they can simply refill the bag with bootleg weed. The state can figure that out. I would imagine the state is also planning on going to the Supreme Court because they will be in violation of federal law.

I'm not a marijuana advocate or user. But an estimated 60 percent of the Mexican cartels profits are derived from marijuana smuggled into the U.S. market. I'd rather see that money going into 50 state treasuries.

11 posted on 11/06/2012 10:07:10 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: djf

Wait until they find out Obama suppresses this.


12 posted on 11/06/2012 10:11:43 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

The people voted for a lawless nation. 0bama and the FedMob can KMA! :-)


13 posted on 11/06/2012 10:28:24 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Gluteus Maximus

Not true.

In this case, the state will be actively promoting it, by licensing growers and retailers.

That’s about as “legal” as it gets.

What are the Feds gonna do? Invade the state?


14 posted on 11/06/2012 10:41:16 PM PST by djf (Political Science: Conservatives = govern-ment. Liberals = givin-me-it.)
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To: djf
They might as well have - lots of 'em are going to need it.
15 posted on 11/06/2012 10:58:25 PM PST by danielmryan
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To: djf

It is likely smoking pot and doing drugs that is one of the major openings for delusional demons to enter into these people’s lives. They are adrift from actual reality.


16 posted on 11/07/2012 12:36:44 AM PST by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: djf

No state of the United States can actively permit something that the federal government has forbidden. It will be challenged in the courts and it will be struck down.


17 posted on 11/07/2012 6:47:01 AM PST by Gluteus Maximus
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To: Ancient Drive
won’t be long before welfare recipient get their monthly rations of marihuana.

Just like they're already getting their monthly rations of the legal mind-altering drug alcohol?

18 posted on 11/07/2012 8:46:17 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: Bellflower
It is likely smoking pot and doing drugs that is one of the major openings for delusional demons to enter into these people’s lives.

Does that include using the mind-altering drug alcohol?

19 posted on 11/07/2012 8:50:22 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Heck, we should let them take all the drugs they want. There’s no better way to cull the herd of the stupid and slothful than to let them do it themselves.


20 posted on 11/07/2012 8:51:15 AM PST by Windcatcher (Obama is a COMMUNIST and the MSM is his armband-wearing propaganda machine.)
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To: Windcatcher
Heck, we should let them take all the drugs they want. There’s no better way to cull the herd of the stupid and slothful than to let them do it themselves.

Banning drugs certainly hasn't stopped them - but has created a major funding source for cartels and terrorists.

21 posted on 11/07/2012 9:00:15 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

So the people that don’t want to inhale smoke will have to unroll them and put it in their brownies?


22 posted on 11/07/2012 1:43:36 PM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: stuartcr

The left just got finished regulating tobacco out of the public forum, not they are turning around and bringing in marijuana. The lawyers must be giddy with anticipation. There will be all the same complaints and law suits regarding second hand smoke that we saw with tobacco, and lots more.

There will be stepped up on the job drug testing by employers who cannot take the responsibility for impaired workers. There will civil suits against workers and employers in places like hospitals, who don’t do enough drug testing. Every time there is a medical error, the nurses and doctors will have to take a drug test. There will be law suits against second hand smoke coming into apts, claiming that the smoke is lowering the IQ of the children living there.

This is going to be fun to watch.


23 posted on 11/07/2012 1:53:56 PM PST by Eva
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To: stuartcr
[So the people that don’t want to inhale smoke will have to unroll them and put it in their brownies?]

Good point. The state could hire a contractor to make marijuana brownie mix, or cookie mix, or tea bags, or a THC patch. It would be better to promote the non-smoking alternatives.

24 posted on 11/07/2012 3:22:09 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Eva

I’m looking forward to following this and Colo.


25 posted on 11/07/2012 4:30:50 PM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: stuartcr

What is already obvious is that the proponents of the legalized marijuana have not thought through all the consequences of smoking marijuana, mostly because they don’t have jobs where drug and alcohol testing is done regularly and live in places where their neighbors also smoke it.

Marijuana is just as, if not more, carcinogenic as tobacco and smells worse. People aren’t going to put up with it in apartments and condos. The law suits in CA over tobacco smoke spreading from air ducts and fireplaces in apt and condo buildings is going to multiply exponentially with marijuana.

Then there is the new study which shows that regular marijuana use in teenagers lowers their IQ, approximately 8 points. That’s a lot when were talking the average IQ of 100. It might even explain the election results.


26 posted on 11/07/2012 5:04:58 PM PST by Eva
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To: djf

A recent study indicates that regular marijuana use among teenagers lowers their IQ by about 8 points. Considering that the average IQ is about 100, an 8 point loss is significant. Maybe that explains this year’s election results.


27 posted on 11/07/2012 5:07:23 PM PST by Eva
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To: Eva

I imagine that if it became reasonably inexpensive and easy to obtain, people will ingest it through foods instead of smoking.


28 posted on 11/07/2012 5:22:20 PM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Gluteus Maximus

Does this mean that state and local law will not do anything if someone has it in their possession? If so then the only leos that could, would have to be feds. What are the odds of that many feds running around Colo or Wash looking for people with small amounts?


29 posted on 11/07/2012 5:31:11 PM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Gluteus Maximus

Does this mean that state and local law will not do anything if someone has it in their possession? If so then the only leos that could, would have to be feds. What are the odds of that many feds running around Colo or Wash looking for people with small amounts?


30 posted on 11/07/2012 5:31:30 PM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: stuartcr
Does this mean that state and local law will not do anything if someone has it in their possession? If so then the only leos that could, would have to be feds. What are the odds of that many feds running around Colo or Wash looking for people with small amounts?

The biggest problem for these stoners is that they can't get a legal supply to these stores. Pretty sure drug trafficking is still illegal.

31 posted on 11/07/2012 5:35:14 PM PST by NYRepublican72
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To: djf

Washington will be an interesting test case. Now we’ll get to see what the effects of decriminalization really are.


32 posted on 11/07/2012 5:45:08 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: NYRepublican72

Will it be legal to grow one’s own?


33 posted on 11/07/2012 5:45:22 PM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: NYRepublican72

Will it be legal to grow one’s own?


34 posted on 11/07/2012 5:45:36 PM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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in practice the Feds don’t get involved with the little guys. Unless you’re busted for smoking dope by Ranger in a federal park or something. But mostly they just go after dealers. Here in CA, where we have medical marijuana laws, the Feds target growers and distributors. They’ve been very active these past few months terrorizing potheads.


35 posted on 11/07/2012 5:47:41 PM PST by Gluteus Maximus
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To: stuartcr

You will still have the problem with on the job drug use and law suits for impaired judgement on the job. Think about hospitals, every time there is a medical error, the family is going to demand that the doctors and nurses on duty be drug tested and if anything shows up, they will sue both the doctors and the hospital. It will be the same for oil refineries and other jobs that require a clear head. There is just no way around it.

Yeah, if it becomes cheap enough, all those 47 percenters can stay home and eat marijuana brownies and cookies and numb themselves into being happy because the sure as heck won’t be able to do much else, except maybe government work.


36 posted on 11/07/2012 7:33:09 PM PST by Eva
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

No.


37 posted on 11/07/2012 9:55:36 PM PST by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: Eva

All that is why I think it will be interesting to watch how the 2 states and the feds are going handle this.


38 posted on 11/08/2012 3:47:10 AM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Eva

All that is why I think it will be interesting to watch how the 2 states and the feds are going handle this.


39 posted on 11/08/2012 3:47:25 AM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Eva

“all those 47 percenters can stay home and eat marijuana brownies and cookies and numb themselves into being happy”

There are a lot of 53%ers that either occasionally or once in a while smoke weed.


40 posted on 11/08/2012 4:04:20 AM PST by Rebelbase (The most transparent administration ever is clear as mud.)
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To: Rebelbase

I smoke weed with 1% ers all the time, including the retired CEO of a Fortune 300 company.


41 posted on 11/08/2012 6:33:16 AM PST by skikvt
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To: Bellflower
It is likely smoking pot and doing drugs that is one of the major openings for delusional demons to enter into these people’s lives.

Does that include using the mind-altering drug alcohol?

No.

How do we know this is so?

42 posted on 11/08/2012 7:53:02 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: Eva
Think about hospitals, every time there is a medical error, the family is going to demand that the doctors and nurses on duty be drug tested and if anything shows up, they will sue both the doctors and the hospital. It will be the same for oil refineries and other jobs that require a clear head.

Does this happen now with the legal mind-altering drug alcohol? If not, what reason is there to think it will happen with any other legal mind-altering drug?

43 posted on 11/08/2012 7:56:23 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: NYRepublican72
The biggest problem for these stoners is that they can't get a legal supply to these stores. Pretty sure drug trafficking is still illegal.

From the WA Secretary of State's site (https://weiapplets.sos.wa.gov/MyVote/OnlineVotersGuide/Measures?countyCode=xx&electionId=46#ososTop):

"The Effect of the Proposed Measure, if Approved

"For persons over age 21, this measure would remove state law criminal and civil prohibitions with respect to growing, manufacturing, distributing, and possessing marijuana consistent with a state marijuana licensing and regulatory system.

"Without violating state law, people over age 21 could grow, distribute, or possess marijuana, as authorized under various types of licenses. [...]

"A license to produce marijuana would make it legal under state law to grow marijuana. A license to process marijuana would make it legal under state law to process and package marijuana. It would also make it legal under state law to make products that contain marijuana. Licensed producers and processors could sell marijuana at wholesale, but could not sell marijuana at retail directly to consumers. Licensed retailers could sell marijuana, and products containing marijuana, to consumers at retail. Licensed retailers could also sell paraphernalia items used to store or use marijuana."

44 posted on 11/08/2012 8:10:31 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

I am sure that it does, but alcohol can be smelled on the breath of the doctors and nurses. It also happens with prescription drugs that doctors and nurses have access to and they are often caught. Legalized marijuana just adds one more problem to the list. You can be sure that hospitals will start doing random drug testing, if they don’t already.


45 posted on 11/08/2012 10:12:18 AM PST by Eva
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To: skikvt

Yes, there are industries that don’t drug test and don’t care if their employees are impaired, but these are industries that will not be held publicly accountable if something goes wrong, like IT companies.


46 posted on 11/08/2012 10:18:27 AM PST by Eva
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To: Gluteus Maximus

Hussein and Holder might get heavy just like they did in CA. But I doubt it. WA, will keep a tighter reign on it than CA did. Things got out of hand down there pretty quickly. Still I was very surprised they shut so many dispensaries down in CA.


47 posted on 11/08/2012 10:24:00 AM PST by moehoward
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
Banning drugs certainly hasn't stopped them - but has created a major funding source for cartels and terrorists.

Thanks for your posts. I voted for this and have been posting about it the last few days. I am late to this thread.

48 posted on 11/08/2012 10:31:05 AM PST by MarMema (eh.)
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To: Eva
Think about hospitals, every time there is a medical error, the family is going to demand that the doctors and nurses on duty be drug tested and if anything shows up, they will sue both the doctors and the hospital. It will be the same for oil refineries and other jobs that require a clear head.

Does this happen now with the legal mind-altering drug alcohol? If not, what reason is there to think it will happen with any other legal mind-altering drug?

I am sure that it does

And I am highly skeptical that it does. Can you supply a single real-world example? Or are we supposed to make public policy based on what you're sure of?

49 posted on 11/08/2012 10:40:10 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: stuartcr

Vaporizing it is much healthier and has about 1% of the stink of burning it. (Not that I do either, I just know).


50 posted on 11/08/2012 10:44:06 AM PST by Tea Party Terrorist (Your tattoo looks stupid.)
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