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“America may not see it, but Obama’s a visionary”
thelocal.de ^ | 5 Nov 12 11:56 CET | (The Local/jcw/pmw)

Posted on 11/06/2012 11:11:42 AM PST by Olog-hai

With most Germans hoping US President Barack Obama will be re-elected, the country is to see what happens on Tuesday. In a special-edition Zeitgeist, The Local asked what Berliners thought. …

Anja, 36, Berlin

“I am hoping that Obama will win. For me, it’s about his character. I see him more as a visionary, even though the Americans don’t understand this or try to stand in his way. But I think he’s more visionary for the future.” …

Obama speaks to the basic German attitude of social responsibility within a capitalist market—and crucially in the 2008 election, he was not George W. Bush, who was wildly unpopular in Germany by the end of his second presidency. …

(Excerpt) Read more at thelocal.de ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: amongtheeuroweenies; obama

1 posted on 11/06/2012 11:11:44 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
And how many tens of millions died in the 20th century because of the philosophies of German visionaries?
2 posted on 11/06/2012 11:13:41 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Big Bird is a brood parasite: laid in our nest 43 years ago and we are still feeding him.)
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To: Olog-hai

The same people thought Hitler was a visionary, too.

‘Nuff said.


3 posted on 11/06/2012 11:13:41 AM PST by Argus
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To: Olog-hai
Anja, 36, Berlin

“I am hoping that Obama will win. For me, it’s about his character. I see him more as a visionary, even though the Americans don’t understand this or try to stand in his way. But I think he’s more visionary for the future.” …

Right. This from the people who gave the world Hitler.

4 posted on 11/06/2012 11:15:26 AM PST by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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To: Olog-hai

Oh yeah!...Obama is a visionary. He has a vision of every American with a job paying for everyone without one!!!


5 posted on 11/06/2012 11:15:41 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Olog-hai

Obama’s training is as a communist organizer.


6 posted on 11/06/2012 11:16:30 AM PST by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: Olog-hai

He is a visionary, because he has a vision.

It is a vision of turning the USA into Hell on earth — enslavement to the government, subordinating US sovereignty to the UN world government, a socialist/fascist economy, and a political elite that eats Wagyu beef while the citizenry starves on low-calorie mandated food (like we now have in public schools).


7 posted on 11/06/2012 11:17:28 AM PST by Maceman
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To: DakotaGator

Odumbo has a ‘vision” to enslave and destroy the nation. No thanks you gutless Euroweenie.

How’s that Greece thing going BTW?


8 posted on 11/06/2012 11:17:47 AM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: Olog-hai
We see that he thinks he is.

And Hussein's vision is not America's vision.

9 posted on 11/06/2012 11:18:37 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Olog-hai

Fine, let him go to Germany. We have suffered enough from crazy Kraut visonaries. By that I mean Bismarck, Nietzsche, Freud, ALL of their theologians save von Hildebrand and RAtzinger, and ALL of their education thsorists. They and the French existentialists have done rnough harm for one millenium.


10 posted on 11/06/2012 11:19:03 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Olog-hai

I’ll give a sh!t what Germans think once they prove they can go a hundred years without tossing Jews in ovens.


11 posted on 11/06/2012 11:19:49 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Thought Puzzle: Describe Islam without using the phrase "mental disorder" more than four times.)
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To: Olog-hai

I see it.

The vision is a devastated America, and world wide ummah.


12 posted on 11/06/2012 11:20:22 AM PST by null and void (Day 1386 of the Obama hostage crisis - Barack Hussein Obama an enemy BOTH foreign AND domestic)
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To: Olog-hai

I have a vision, too. Mine is of him being escorted out the back door of the WH in handcuffs and spending the rest of his life in Lakin’s cell at Leavenworth.


13 posted on 11/06/2012 11:21:10 AM PST by bgill (Evil doers are in every corner of our government. Have we passed the point of no return?)
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To: Olog-hai

We should start a new campaign for Obama as Head of the EU. It would seem that he is their favorite so let’s give him to them.


14 posted on 11/06/2012 11:21:28 AM PST by Kadric
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To: Olog-hai

Maybe the Nazional Socialist who wrote the article meant that Bonzo has “good vision”.

He is nothing but an empty monkey suit and a puppet who reads whatever the puppetmasters put on the teleprompters. I guess that requires good eyesight.


15 posted on 11/06/2012 11:21:38 AM PST by PermaRag (If Trayvon had a father, he'd look just like Obama)
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To: Olog-hai
But I think he’s more visionary for the future.” …

Adolph Hitler had a vision for the future: a "Thousand Year Reich" and a Master Race.

Josef Stalin had a vision for the future: an international "Workers Paradise" and dictatorship of the proletariat, populated by the New Soviet Man.

Mao Zedong had a vision for the future: A Cultural Revolution leading to paradise by Five Year Plans

Together, they murdered more than 100 million people.

TO HELL WITH "GREAT LEADERS" AND THEIR "VISION FOR THE FUTURE"!!!!!

16 posted on 11/06/2012 11:22:30 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Olog-hai

Obama’s LSD induced visions we don’t need to see in the United States.

He’s done enough damage already.


17 posted on 11/06/2012 11:23:15 AM PST by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: Olog-hai

Goose step your ass on outta here, beeyotches


18 posted on 11/06/2012 11:23:36 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: max americana
How’s that Greece thing going BTW?

Bingo!

19 posted on 11/06/2012 11:25:07 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Olog-hai
My BIL who I've been best friends with for about 40 years has an uncle who still lives in Germany. He doesn't even speak english. The BIL said when Gert visited back in ‘08 he told my BIL that this guy obama STRONGLY reminded him of a certain maniacal dictator that came to power in Germany of the 1940s. The uncle said it was eerie.
20 posted on 11/06/2012 11:26:20 AM PST by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: Olog-hai

Yes, Obama’s a “visionary” in the same sense as Hitler, Lenin, Stalin, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Minh, Hugo Chavez, Mao, Fidel Castro, Che Guevara and a number of other despots who come to mind.


21 posted on 11/06/2012 11:26:20 AM PST by Bernard Marx (</A>)
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To: Olog-hai

‘For me, it’s about his character.’

what character would that be, Anja?


22 posted on 11/06/2012 11:27:24 AM PST by RitchieAprile
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To: Olog-hai

I am wondering what the Germans add to their water


23 posted on 11/06/2012 11:27:41 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Olog-hai
Who give’s a rats ass what a socialist European wants in our election? We don't get involved in their democratic process, they shouldn't get involved in ours. They should be more worried about the rest of the EU siphoning the value of their currency out because of fiscal irresponsibility!
24 posted on 11/06/2012 11:29:00 AM PST by alth3655
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To: Bernard Marx

What vision is that??

Every American broke with a part time job or on welfare?


25 posted on 11/06/2012 11:29:48 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Olog-hai

You might, MIGHT be able to make that argument. After all, they are socialist and we are not. So Obama would seem more visionary to THEM.

However, the visionary argument falls apart when you look at the 6 trillion in debt Obozo has added. There is no vision there... that is a road to destruction.

I seriously doubt any Germans pay attention to our debt or how much our social policies cost. They have their own mega debt crisis in Europe right now.


26 posted on 11/06/2012 11:32:06 AM PST by Advil000
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To: Olog-hai

They said the same about Carter. We just needed to wait a century or two for any positive effect.


27 posted on 11/06/2012 11:32:19 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Olog-hai

For a number of years after my service in WWII I had much empathy with the German people. I even liked having to study the German language to get my engineering degree. I had closer feelings with German people when we supported our granddaughter’s year long time in Germany as an exchange student. Not so much feeling today as I see Germans not understanding our exceptional government and forgetting the contributions the USA made to keep the Germans from Russian domination. We need to understand and accept that Germans believe now as in the past that only they have the wisdom of governance. I sincerely hope my attitude will be changed as I recall many things in the German traditions that I enjoy. However, I will also remember the Germany of WWII.


28 posted on 11/06/2012 11:38:13 AM PST by noinfringers2
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To: Olog-hai

In my first career as a bank examiner who reviewed lots and lots of loans for credit quality, I realized that people are broke on different levels. There were bankrupt people that had far more assets than I will ever have.

With age and observation, I have similarly realized that people are morons on different levels: There are ignorant morons and there are educated morons. This moron is utterly unqualified to lecture me on Obama being a visionary.

What category of moron this person qualifies under, I do not know. I have followed Obama since well before his election in 2008. One thing is abundantly clear to me: he is DEFINITELY NOT a visionary. He is simply a smart a$$ ideologically trained street thug trying to take my hard-earned money and subjugate me under his absolute authority. Barbarian simpletons did the exact same thing with with spears, swords and clubs!!! Now Obama relies on blatant lies, street thugs intimidating people at voter precincts and a army of union heavies to scare people.

Visionary???? Bite my a$$ you moron!!!


29 posted on 11/06/2012 11:39:58 AM PST by RatRipper (RE Obama: Romney just can't beat the lying, commie SOB bad enough to suit me. . . .)
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To: KarlInOhio

Try hundreds of millions of deaths!


30 posted on 11/06/2012 11:40:51 AM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Maceman

“America may not see it, but Obama’s a visionary”

Some people have vision. Others just see things.


31 posted on 11/06/2012 11:45:46 AM PST by Wordkraft (Remember who the Collaborators are.)
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To: Olog-hai
She's still stuck in 2008 and thinking Obama is a visionary with character. I think she means that she thinks of herself as a visionary (with character) for supporting him. For Anja (and a lot of other people) Obama's a screen she can project her own feelings onto, a blank slate she can fill with her own musings.

Europe and the US are different. Diversity or exceptionalism cuts both ways. We agree to disagree on Obama and other topics.

32 posted on 11/06/2012 11:57:28 AM PST by x
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To: Olog-hai
In the UK, Obama came out with a huge 85 percent of the vote.
33 posted on 11/06/2012 12:00:47 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (WINNING IS EVERYTHING!)
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To: x
They would not vote for him as Kanzler of their own country, though.

I have to laugh at this comment from a man from Kassel called Peter, age 65:
“If I were American, I would rather vote for Obama rather than for this millionaire. I don’t know if millionaires make the greatest politicians, but there are a lot of them.”
I guess the prolefeed that Peter subscribes to failed to mention that Obama is himself a millionaire?
34 posted on 11/06/2012 12:10:56 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

This coming from the same people who brought us Hitler, the Frankfurt School, allowed large Turkish/Islamic immigration into their country, think climate change is real and chased real visionarties, like Einstein, out of their country.

A grain of salt has more value than their op-ed dribble. .


35 posted on 11/06/2012 12:11:16 PM PST by CharlesMartelsGhost
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To: Dr. Sivana
We have suffered enough from crazy Kraut visonaries. By that I mean Bismarck, Nietzsche, Freud, ALL of their theologians save von Hildebrand and RAtzinger

You forgot the craziest "visionary" of them all Karl Marx. Also disagree about their theologians See Bonhoffer, Dietrich.

36 posted on 11/06/2012 12:19:45 PM PST by Timocrat (Ingnorantia non excusat)
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To: Timocrat

You’re right about forgetting Marx ... may as well throw Hegel and Engels in there. Regarding Bonhoffer, I only know about his argument against “cheap grace”. As a Catholic, I have only a passing familiarity with him, though I know he stood up to the Nazis, which is always worth doing. I also understand the German Jew Husserl philosopher isn’t all that bad, if you are into that phenomenology thing (I’m not).


37 posted on 11/06/2012 1:01:39 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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