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ROMMEL IN FULL RETREAT, TANKS, GUNS SMASHED, GENERAL KILLED, ANOTHER AND 9,000 PRISONERS (11/5/42)
Microfilm-New York Times archives, Monterey Public Library | 11/5/42 | James MacDonald, A.C. Sedgwick, Ralph Parker, Hanson W. Baldwin

Posted on 11/05/2012 4:16:47 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: milhist; realtime; worldwarii
Free Republic University, Department of History presents World War II Plus 70 Years: Seminar and Discussion Forum
First session: September 1, 2009. Last date to add: September 2, 2015.
Reading assignment: New York Times articles delivered daily to students on the 70th anniversary of original publication date. (Previously posted articles can be found by searching on keyword “realtime” Or view Homer’s posting history .)
To add this class to or drop it from your schedule notify Admissions and Records (Attn: Homer_J_Simpson) by freepmail. Those on the Realtime +/- 70 Years ping list are automatically enrolled. Course description, prerequisites and tuition information is available at the bottom of Homer’s profile. Also visit our general discussion thread.
1 posted on 11/05/2012 4:17:00 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson
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2 posted on 11/05/2012 4:18:33 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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On the day after his arrival at Gibraltar he wrote a hurried letter to Mamie telling her about his new title, “’Allied C-in-C’ in this region,” and two days later he dictated a longer one, explaining why it had been necessary to leak to the American press that he was coming home on leave as a blind to deceive the Germans and explain his absence from London – he was aware of how deeply she would be disappointed, and apologized for not being able to let her know the truth. He longed to write to her about where he was, what he was doing, and why, but “in war this can’t be done,” he pointed out, and censorship “made letter writing a terrible chore.”

Michael Korda, Ike: An American Hero

3 posted on 11/05/2012 4:19:58 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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William L. Shirer, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich

4 posted on 11/05/2012 4:20:53 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: r9etb; PzLdr; dfwgator; Paisan; From many - one.; rockinqsranch; 2banana; henkster; meandog; ...
British Sweep On (MacDonald) – 2-3
Tanks Roar Ahead in Dust and Flame (Sedgwick) – 3
War News Summarized – 3
Italians in One Sector Ask Truce to Bury Their Dead – 4
Russians Beat Off Fierce Nazi Blows (Parker) – 4-5
Skyline of Ruins in the Battered City of Stalingrad (photo) - 5
U.S. Forces on Guadalcanal Win Some Enemy Positions on West – 6
The General Decorates a War Correspondent (photo) – 6
Behind the Lines on Guadalcanal: Marines Move In Where Japanese Were Driven Out (photos) – 7-9
Screen Star and Navy Officer to Marry * – 10
War of Manoeuvre Begins in Africa (Baldwin) – 11
The Texts of the Day’s Communiques on the War – 12-13

*Mrs. Miniver and son Vin Miniver getting married. Is that legal?

5 posted on 11/05/2012 4:22:46 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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http://www.onwar.com/chrono/1942/nov42/f05nov42.htm

Advance of Germans in Caucasus slowing
Thursday, November 5, 1942 www.onwar.com

On the Eastern Front... In the Caucasus, the German advances are slowing, but they have almost reached Ordzhonikidze.

In the Solomon Islands... Admiral Tanaka takes command of the “Toyko Express,” the destroyer flotilla supplying Japanese forces on Guadalcanal.

From Gibraltar... American General Eisenhower arrives to set up his headquarters for Operation Torch, the invasion of French North Africa. American General Doolittle and British Air Marshall Welsh will command the air forces. British General Anderson will lead the British 1st Army which comprises the main ground force.

On Madagascar... The Vichy French forces ask for an armistice.

In New Guinea... The Australians attack Oivi. The Japanese decided to fight a rear guard action here to enable the rest of their forces to retire across the Kumusi River.


6 posted on 11/05/2012 4:24:55 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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http://homepage.ntlworld.com/andrew.etherington/frame.htm

November 5th, 1942

UNITED KINGDOM: Submarine HMS Truncheon laid down (Dave Shirlaw)

GERMANY: In a camp in Bavaria British officer prisoners are rehearsing the production of The Mikado. They have an orchestra of 72 performers and the cast with chorus is a pretty big one. The camp has two tennis courts and a football pitch.

These details were given to me in a letter written considerably after the reprisals order was put into effect.

Commander Beattie failed to get away after the commando raid on St. Nazaire, and for his gallant conduct was awarded the V.C.

One morning a little later a special parade of all prisoners was ordered at which the camp commandant appeared in full dress uniform. Calling out Commander Beattie the commandant read out the official citation of the award and then saluted, joining in the cheers that broke out from the other British officers on parade.

A similar urge to honour gallantry which had cost the enemy dear was displayed only a few days later, this time at another prisoner-of-war camp. Here the commander ordered a special parade at which he read out the record of the award of the V.C. to Sergeant John Hinton, a New Zealander, who had fought in Greece, handed him the ribbon of the decoration and looked on sympathetically while the Sergeant was carried shoulder high around the camp.

Yorkshire Post
[From an article by Sir Herbert Russell.]

U.S.S.R.: The German attacks begin to loose steam south of Terek in the Causasus, but nevertheless continue already nearing Ordzhonikidze.
Polar Fleet and White Sea Flotilla: Shipping loss.SKR-25 “Smena” (ex RT-57 “Smena”) by surface ships, SW to Novaya Zemla after 22 - DD “Sokrushitelnii” - at storm, in a central part of Barentz Sea.

Baltic Fleet, Ladoga and Onega Flotillas: Submarine “Sch-305” is rammed and sunk off Gisslan in Gulf of Finland by Finnish submarine /Vetehinen/ (kapteeniluutnantti Antti Leino). Despite being damaged, /Vetehinen/ suffered no casualties and managed to return port. (Sergey Anisimov and Mikko Härmeinen)(69)

GIBRALTAR: General Eisenhower arrives. His HQ includes Admiral Cunningham for Naval, General Doolittle and Air Marshal Welsh for Air. General Anderson will command the British 1st Army, the main ground formation.

A senior American general nearly drowned after a clandestine meeting with French leaders in Algeria, it was revealed today. Lieutenant-General Mark Clark, the deputy commander of the Allied Expeditionary Force, was landed by canvas canoe from the British submarine HMS SERAPH on 22 October.

British commandos stood guard with Tommy guns as he held discussions with the French General Charles Mast, the deputy commander in North Africa. Mast was anxious for details of the coming invasion. Clark gave none, not even the fact that the fleet was on its way. With the local police suspicious, Clark and the Commandos prepared to shoot their way out. When they reached the beach, a heavy Atlantic swell was creating huge waves. It was then that a canoe capsized, throwing the general into the water. Clark claims someone shouted: “Never mind the general, get the paddles!”

NORTH AFRICA: Rommel retreats from Fuka. While the Italian Infantry takes heavy losses, the main British pursuit is held up by a shortage of fuel and a minefield. The minefield is a dummy field laid out previously by the British themselves.

MADAGASCAR: Vichy forces ask the British for an armistice.

NEW GUINEA: Australian troops advancing on the Kokoda Trail today launched a strong attack on the retreating Japanese in a bid to capture the town of Oivi in the foothills of the Owen Stanley Mountains.

After the fall of Kokoda on 2 November, a brigade of Australians encountered strongly-manned Japanese defences some three miles long near Oivi. The Japanese have dug themselves in and are resisting fiercely. To try and break the impasse another Australian brigade is to move round the southern flank to cut Japanese communications in the rear.

If Oivi can be taken, the road will be open to Gona and Buna on the north coast, although more tough fighting is inevitable.

SOLOMON ISLANDS: The 164th crosses the Nalimbiu, east of the Lunga perimeter, on Guadalcanal. They envelop the inland flank of the Japanese opposite the 7th Marines.

The Tenryu and 5 Destroyers of the Otsu Detachment of the Tokyo Express lands part of the 228th Regiment at Cape Esperance. The Ko Detachment with 10 Destroyers of the Tokyo Express lands Major General Ito, CO of the 38th Infantry Group, his HQ and with the balance of the regiment is landed at Tassafaronga. Among those evacuated is General Kawaguchi,141 soldiers and 206 construction workers.

The US opposition tonight consists of PT-39 engaging destroyer Murasame. The other 3 US PT boats do not detect the Express.

CANADA:

Minesweeper HMCS St Boniface launched Port Arthur, Ontario.

Trawler HMS Bowell renamed HMS Miscou at Montreal, Province of Quebec. (Dave Shirlaw)

U.S.A.: Destroyer USS Jeffers commissioned. (Dave Shirlaw)


7 posted on 11/05/2012 4:26:23 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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I often celebrate Monty by imbibing that famous drink named for him.

http://wiki.webtender.com/wiki/Montgomery

The Montgomery is a drink which consists of Gin, and Vermouth. Also known as “A visit with the General”.

History

Created by Ernest Hemingway at Harry’s Bar, Venice. Named for Sir Bernard Law Montgomery of the British Eighth Army, the drink’s proportions of gin to vermouth (at 15 to 1) are said to represent the General’s requirement for outnumbering the enemy prior to engagement.

Original Recipe

15 parts Gin to 1 part Dry Vermouth, i.e 3 3/4oz Gin, 1/4oz Dry Vermouth, shaken or stirred and served “up” in a cocktail glass.

Common Recipe

The total volume of the drink may vary but the proportions should allways remain 15:1


8 posted on 11/05/2012 4:31:54 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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November 5 , 1942:


"This cap was worn by Karel Bruml during his time in Auschwitz.
Bruml was first imprisoned in Theresienstadt, the 'model' ghetto in Czechoslovakia.
He was transported in 1942 to Auschwitz, where, because he was an artist by trade, he was forced to paint numbers on prison uniforms.
A hierarchy existed within the camps: The lower one's number, the greater the privileges afforded to the prisoner.
Bruml assigned himself this relatively low number."


"The Nazis began to deport Jews from the Plonsk (Poland) Ghetto on November 1, 1942.
Rather than ship them to one of the Operation Reinhard death camps, the Germans sent them to a new death facility, Auschwitz, which would become the deadliest of the camps.
Twelve thousand Plonsk Jews were killed at Auschwitz in this action."


"A frame from a propaganda filmstrip depicts how relationships between Jews and non-Jews defile the 'Aryan race.'
A major feature of Nazi ideology was racial purity.
The Nuremberg Laws of 1935 explicitly prohibited interfaith marriages and outlawed sexual relations between Aryans and Jews.
Joseph Goebbels's propaganda empire worked overtime to create graphic visual imagery that portrayed the dangers of 'race defilement.' "



9 posted on 11/05/2012 5:15:07 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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I was going to say that Greer Garson looked old enough to be his mother in that picture, but on checking the date, it seems not quite. She was only a little over 12 years older than he was.

I also wonder about getting the marriage license. Per Wikipedia, she didn’t get around to getting a divorce from #1 until next year.


10 posted on 11/05/2012 6:50:58 AM PST by PAR35
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BBC - Bruce Belfrage on Victory at El Alamein
11 posted on 11/05/2012 8:23:37 AM PST by CougarGA7 ("History is politics projected into the past" - Michael Pokrovski)
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She was 38, he was 26 in 1942.


12 posted on 11/05/2012 10:07:37 AM PST by Rebelbase (The most transparent administration ever is clear as mud.)
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Which is 12 years.


13 posted on 11/06/2012 8:12:31 PM PST by PAR35
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