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Happy Rain

Posted on 11/03/2012 7:33:15 AM PDT by Happy Rain

What if Obama wins.


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An Obama win will kick in the the original intent of the 2nd Amendment so my question is...

...I have weapons suitable for general home defense but in the event of a sneak attack inside my house what is the prefered handgun to put under my pillow that has the best stopping power yet is not so powerful as to pass through the jack booted Obama thug and harm my people in the other rooms.

FR is the home of both firearm experts and understanders of the 2nd Amendment...opinions will be taken seriously.

1 posted on 11/03/2012 7:33:23 AM PDT by Happy Rain
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2 posted on 11/03/2012 7:37:43 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Happy Rain

He won’t.
Think positive!


3 posted on 11/03/2012 7:37:43 AM PDT by siamesecats (God closes one door, and opens another, to protect us.)
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To: Happy Rain

You must be a heavy sleeper.


4 posted on 11/03/2012 7:38:22 AM PDT by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: siamesecats

Right, think positive, and PRAY from now until all the votes are counted!


5 posted on 11/03/2012 7:38:47 AM PDT by knittnmom (Save the earth! It's the only planet with chocolate!)
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To: Happy Rain

You must be a heavy sleeper.


6 posted on 11/03/2012 7:38:55 AM PDT by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: Happy Rain
We are better off debating what kind of fireworks should be used to celebrate his concession speach.

I'm thinking some of these...


7 posted on 11/03/2012 7:41:26 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Happy Rain

It will speed the collapse somewhat over a Romney victory (and fix the blame more correctly in the eyes of those about to be awakened). The financial collapse is coming either way. The re-institution of the Constitution has it’s best chances after the collapse although the interim will make NY and NJ after Sandy look like happy days. Keep your powder dry.


8 posted on 11/03/2012 7:42:10 AM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Happy Rain

IMO, he will be impeached due to the Libya situation. Libya will not go away.


9 posted on 11/03/2012 7:44:54 AM PDT by duckman (I'm part of the group pulling the wagon!)
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To: All
In the defense of America one must hope for the best and prepare for the worse.

Unless Mitt wins in a landslide Obama will steal it and claim a mandate to enslave us!

The 2nd Amendment was the fail safe the Founders gave us for such a situation.

10 posted on 11/03/2012 7:44:54 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Remember the Benghazi 4")
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To: Rappini
Obama is commander in chief of our special forces...think Navy SEAL assassins will be wearing tap shoes?
11 posted on 11/03/2012 7:47:19 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Remember the Benghazi 4")
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To: gorush

If Obama can trip the voting machines, and comes out ahead, which is really unlikely, I´d think he´s got a LOT of apologizing to do. Remember when he said when he came into office the mess he found. Just imagine the mess that´s piled up on Inauguration Day 2013, and no one to blame but himself. Then he´ll face a VERY different Senate, and a Congress, and it will be gridlock big time, and people will be screaming for impeachment. The MSM will finally wake up and realize that we had a fake serving as President, that wasn´t even a real natural born citizen. Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid will be orgasmic if Obama wins.


12 posted on 11/03/2012 7:47:47 AM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: duckman

IMO, he will be impeached due to the Libya situation. Libya will not go away.

I agree. Second terms are generally not good and with so much scandal surrounding BO over so many issues, it will not be good for him and the Mooch.


13 posted on 11/03/2012 7:48:48 AM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: Happy Rain

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/charles-krauthammer-the-choice/2012/11/01/59b5bed0-2445-11e2-9313-3c7f59038d93_print.html

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2953795/posts

Krauthammer discusses this in the above article:

...”An Obama second term means that the movement toward European-style social democracy continues, in part by legislation, in part by executive decree. The American experiment — the more individualistic, energetic, innovative, risk-taking model of democratic governance — continues to recede, yielding to the supervised life of the entitlement state.

If Obama loses, however, his presidency becomes a historical parenthesis, a passing interlude of overreaching hyper-liberalism, rejected by a center-right country that is 80 percent nonliberal....”


14 posted on 11/03/2012 7:51:10 AM PDT by TEXOKIE (Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little. EdmondBurke)
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To: Happy Rain

The best handgun, in most situations, is the largest caliber that you can shoot accurately. The best way to avoid hitting friendlies is not to shoot at them in the first place- rearrange the furniture so that shots fired from the bed do not pass through the walls in ways likely to hit someone in the other room. Most modern homes are made of flimsy stuff and will be penetrated easily by any handgun worthy of the name. If you were to limit yourself to guns that didn’t penetrate drywall, for example, the .25 and .32 ACP cartridges will be good candidates, but unfortunately both also are notoriously bad at penetrating bad guys. So my advice- whatever handgun you use for other purposes, use for this one, unless it is a BFR or a S&W .500, or something of that ilk. If you use one of those you might as well get a rifle.


15 posted on 11/03/2012 7:51:27 AM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: gorush
It will speed the collapse somewhat over a Romney victory (and fix the blame more correctly in the eyes of those about to be awakened). The financial collapse is coming either way. The re-institution of the Constitution has it’s best chances after the collapse...

I agree with your premise. This will be a prelude to the breakup of the United States into Confederation of States with similar ideologies, similar to the breakup of the Soviet Union. The Constitution was a fabulous document that Progressives chipped away at over the last 100 years, such that it has become just an historical document without the limitations it was suppose to impose through enumerated powers. As a Libertarian, my hope is that the Great Republic of Texas will embrace the US Constitution as a framework for freedom, and any other states that want to join us will be welcome.

If Romney wins, the breakup will likely proceed peacefully. However, if Obama wins, The Marxist wouldn't hesitate to murder thousands of liberty seeking Americans to forcefully impose his New World Socialist Order. Civil War is just about guaranteed

Ideologically, we have nothing in common with California, New York, Illinois, and the other Communist-loving states who want to embrace Socialism. To them I offer, go for it ...But Don't Tread on Me!

16 posted on 11/03/2012 7:56:26 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: Happy Rain

Not gonna happen. Start practicing saying President Romney.


17 posted on 11/03/2012 7:58:51 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Happy Rain

“...Obama is commander in chief of our special forces...think Navy SEAL assassins will be wearing tap shoes?...”

Most all of our military know the difference between “lawful orders” and “unlawful orders”....

Most all of the “grunts in boots” would side with the American people, I believe....


18 posted on 11/03/2012 7:59:47 AM PDT by JW1949
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To: Happy Rain

Besides, SEALs would be the last of your worries...You really need to think about the “civilian army” Obama wants to raise and arm inside Homeland Security, FEMA, etc...

Why does FEMA need millions of rounds of ammunition?????


19 posted on 11/03/2012 8:02:52 AM PDT by JW1949
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To: Happy Rain

             


(indexed to :banglist for ya)

20 posted on 11/03/2012 8:03:04 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: rovenstinez

The media will fly cover for him again as he quickens his marxist agenda and the fed keeps printing money. Have a foreign bank account and stocks from other countries to cover yourself. Invest in gold and silver.


21 posted on 11/03/2012 8:04:01 AM PDT by rcofdayton
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To: Happy Rain

The world is made up of a lot of strange people. Most of them scare me to death. Even armed, your life hangs in the balance when you’re dealing with someone who doesn’t think the same way you do. I’ve even experienced the fear feeling in the comfort setting of FR.

At any given time Rush has twenty million listeners a day. I’m sure between ten and twenty percent don’t think the same way he does. People may be surprised to know, that second in listener-ship to Rush is the host of Coast to Coast am, George Noory. George comes in at about sixteen million listeners and ranks around 7th in most influential talk show hosts. To measure anyone’s value or impact by the makeup of the audience is to underestimate the fact that a lot of people like me have trouble sleeping at night. I tune in his show just because. I’ve never seen a ghost in my life. I’ve never seen a UFO or Big Foot......but I’m a listener, not a follower. Last night George opened his show as he usually does with updates from a variety of people who report on different events. (One of those who sometimes reports is Dr Corsi.). Last night one of the analysts said that Obama wins this election because of the electoral college. It was a brief summary of the reasons behind the analysis which were beside the point. My blood ran cold because I knew it was a strong possibility. It was cut
and dried....out to sixteen million listeners.
It is clear that Romney can win the popular vote, even by millions, and still lose the election because of a focused campaign run by Obama.

If anyone knows how to post that segment of Coast to Coast am, I would appreciate hearing it again. I hope I misunderstood.

Vote and pray that God will protect us.


22 posted on 11/03/2012 8:06:01 AM PDT by FryingPan101 (2016 looms)
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To: GenXteacher
What about a short round soft tip large caliber revolver cartridge—say like in the .44 Bulldog the Son of Sam used?

Stopping power is a must and the round should go no farther than the crook's body.

The .45 ACP is not known for collateral damage but I prefer the reliability of a revolver in a home invasion situation

23 posted on 11/03/2012 8:06:32 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Remember the Benghazi 4")
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24 posted on 11/03/2012 8:07:20 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Feel the Power - GOP Tsunami Warning Issued for November 6th)
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To: Happy Rain
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taurus_Judge

Load 410-410-LC-LC-LC

25 posted on 11/03/2012 8:08:34 AM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party of No! Nobama, No Way, No How!)
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To: tomkat
The whole idea;)
26 posted on 11/03/2012 8:10:32 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Remember the Benghazi 4")
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To: Happy Rain
What if Obama wins.

After a couple of months you turn to your wife and ask ruefully,"Why didn't we get out while we still could?"

27 posted on 11/03/2012 8:15:23 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: Happy Rain

Whoaa....

Don’t get all wee wee’d up.


28 posted on 11/03/2012 8:15:37 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

Those who don’t expect Hell are asking for it.


29 posted on 11/03/2012 8:18:04 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Remember the Benghazi 4")
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To: dandiegirl

If he is still president for the next term then I suspect he will be insulated from Congress. He will be able to ignore them and eventually dismiss or replace Congress.


30 posted on 11/03/2012 8:19:58 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: Happy Rain
Heh..
Aint Skeered


31 posted on 11/03/2012 8:23:54 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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However, if Obama wins, The Marxist wouldn't hesitate to murder thousands of liberty seeking Americans

You are accusing the kenyan of being squeamish. Thousands? or are you assuming thats's all the Tea Party etc folks there are? Thousands will just describe his purge of the military, maybe just the army.

32 posted on 11/03/2012 8:24:11 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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If BOzo gets a 2nd term I believe we’ll witness at what point people will finally say ‘enough is enough’. I think the puppeteers would get greedy and accelerate the ‘boiling frog’ method too quickly. One of the things I think they’d go for is a serious gun grab. Also the economy will continue its designed collapse and then there’s BOzocare which is going to be an absolute nightmare when it kicks in.


33 posted on 11/03/2012 8:25:17 AM PDT by Hayride
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To: Happy Rain

If the SEAL’s are coming after you, it won’t matter what they are wearing there will probably be a Barrett aiming at you anyway.


34 posted on 11/03/2012 8:28:21 AM PDT by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: JW1949

I think we will find that the kenyan already has his civilian army/Praetorian Guard. TSA and SIEU to start; big city police forces.Most of the Federal agencies have large and growing armed and trained enforcement forces, including the Education Department. These forces will prove to be loyal to The One. The military will be shifted overseas much more than it is now and the ongoing purge of the officer corps will be ramped up and include the NCOs. By the time the generals and the troops know that it is time to act to save the Republic all the relevant personnel and officers will be retired, dead, or in prison.


35 posted on 11/03/2012 8:32:14 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: Happy Rain

We are most likely to see social unrest if Romney wins.
Not because Romney is radical, but because Obama supporters are an unstable bunch that are likely to throw a fit.

Should that happen, they will do it in the public square.
I doubt very much that your home will be invaded as a result of the election.
In the event that it is, a 12 ga shotgun is your friend.


36 posted on 11/03/2012 8:33:36 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Rappini

The Seventh SEAL scares the piss out of me.


37 posted on 11/03/2012 8:35:59 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: InterceptPoint

November 1, 2012

Don’t Get Swept up in O(mob)ama Mentality: Surviving the Romney Riots

by CTD Suzanne

Be it conspiracy theory or not, there is Internet chatter about planned riots after the election if President Obama does not win. Historically, riots have occurred during time of intense political strife, racial tension, and harsh economic conditions. In the coming days and weeks, the time is ripe for people to be angry and frustrated following the outcome of the election. Regardless of your political affiliation, everyone thinks the other candidate is going to destroy America; whether through taking away our rights or taking away our money, neither one will we tolerate. Though there is no way to predict exactly when and where civil unrest will happen, it is best to prepare just in case violent rioting breaks out in your city.

http://cdn2.cheaperthandirt.com/blog/?p=30327&utm_source=EmailDirect.com&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=20121103-Chronicle-Vol1Iss13+Campaign


38 posted on 11/03/2012 8:37:14 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Happy Rain

What if a bullfrog had wings? :)

Obongo isn’t going to win.


39 posted on 11/03/2012 8:44:11 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Don't be afraid to see what you see. (Ronald Reagan))
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To: Georgia Girl 2

IF—and its really an if—Obama wins by cheating, or numbers or what ever—he will not finish his term in office. Scandals will come put of which Benghazi is only one of many. The new GOP congress will keep him from doing much but—little will be done until he’s out of power.


40 posted on 11/03/2012 8:46:13 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: mylife

Guess not...

...unless you live in a mobile home.


41 posted on 11/03/2012 9:01:08 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Remember the Benghazi 4")
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To: Rappini
Any SEAL left serving under a second term Obama will be a klutz and may as well be wearing tap shoes and will deserve my double tap if he invades my home.
42 posted on 11/03/2012 9:06:05 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Remember the Benghazi 4")
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To: grobdriver

Excellent choice!!!


43 posted on 11/03/2012 9:06:28 AM PDT by Huskerfan44 (Huskerfan44)
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To: mylife
Birdshot buckshot or slug? Magnum or standard? And what barrel choke?
44 posted on 11/03/2012 9:09:25 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Remember the Benghazi 4")
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What if Obama wins.

Chris Mathews will go to the closest bar and get drunk .... and if Obama loses Chris Mathews will go to the closest bar and get drunk.

45 posted on 11/03/2012 9:10:31 AM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: Happy Rain

A shotgun is your best bet for delivering the news with no over penetration.
If you must shoot a zombie in one room, you don’t really have to worry about killing Jesus in the next room over.

It’s OK, in the event that you wing him, he will probably forgive you.


46 posted on 11/03/2012 9:11:11 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Happy Rain
The man watched 4 Americans, 2 soldiers, an ambassador and likely CIA agent die in Benghzi that night and then flew off to campaign then morning. ...undenieable

He said he gave orders to do everything to help, but the only orders being reported are "Stand Down" orders. ...which the media willl be forced to release after the election.

47 posted on 11/03/2012 9:11:24 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Happy Rain

If Obama wins, nothing happens for a while. If Romney wins, you know what areas to avoid. You will be fine at home. Just be careful when you go out. Riots aren’t going to be the problem, those will end in a night or two. Ongoing individual hate crimes against whites will be the problem.

Avoidance of certain areas and situational awareness is the ticket. If you live in an urban/diversified area, a concealed carry permit would be a good idea. You should already have that.


48 posted on 11/03/2012 9:13:17 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....The days are long, but the years are short.....)
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To: Happy Rain

No Choke, 7 1/2 bird shot should do it
Get some Turkey shot if them getting up again worry’s you.


49 posted on 11/03/2012 9:15:47 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: gorush; All
The re-institution of the Constitution has it’s best chances after the collapse

You are an incurable optimist. Collapses almost never result in more liberty. They almost always result in tyranny.

If you think this is in error, please show some historical counter examples that were not forced by the United States as a conquering power.

50 posted on 11/03/2012 9:18:17 AM PDT by marktwain
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