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1 posted on 11/01/2012 4:22:52 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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What good will this do?

Obama took this oath - hand on a Bible - and that hasn’t stopped him from obeying that oath.


2 posted on 11/01/2012 4:25:06 PM PDT by llevrok (By comparison to Obama, at least Nero could play a fiddle.)
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And you think this is going to accomplish what exactly?


4 posted on 11/01/2012 4:26:58 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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I’d rather just overturn the 17th amendment and start returning power to the states.


5 posted on 11/01/2012 4:30:58 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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here is a weird thought.. in the strictest sense of the oath would wanting to further amend the constitution be considered a violation of the oath?


7 posted on 11/01/2012 4:32:24 PM PDT by HenryArmitage (it was not meant that we should voyage far.)
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Folks, it's just a question... wondering where people would feel about this.
Does not those who enter the military have to take a oath to serve in the military ?
Raise the voting age, and exempt those who are already in the military or who are vets... allow only them to vote at a early age 18, 19, 20.
8 posted on 11/01/2012 4:35:59 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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If you really did mean to do harm to the Constitution, wouldn't you sign or say the oath and then do just what you intended to do?

Loyalty oaths caused a lot of agitation from civil liberties groups but someone really devoted to overthrowing the established order at all costs might just take the oath to worm their way into a position where they could do some real damage.

But two qualifications: 1) if you were a dedicated Communist or fascist or anarchist or whatever you'd look like a hypocrite to your friends if you took the oath, so you would be much less likely to vote or serve in the government, and 2) some oaths required you not just to promise to honor the Constitution, but to promise that you'd never been a member of the Communist party or other subversive organization -- if you lied presumably you could be taken to court for it.

10 posted on 11/01/2012 4:38:25 PM PDT by x
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How would it affect those practicing Taqiyya? Or Communists? Seems to me this suffers from the same criticism we subject the left-tards to for advocating more gun laws: it would simply be an additional burden on those who already intend to defend it, and have no additional deterrent effect against those who don't.

We don't need more teachers; we need better teachers, and that also means fewer teachers.

We don't need more laws, we need better laws, and that also means fewer laws.

11 posted on 11/01/2012 4:40:50 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Every President from Arkansas both of whose inaugurations were held in prime years has a bitch wife.)
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Quakers do not take oaths, citing James 5:12 “. . . do not swear—not by heaven or by earth or by anything else. Let your ‘yes’ be yes, and your ‘no,’ no, or you will be condemned.”


13 posted on 11/01/2012 4:47:12 PM PDT by ThomasThomas
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What about my 90 year old mother in law?

I understand where you are going, but there are too many exceptions to be made.


18 posted on 11/01/2012 5:03:02 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (The dude abides.)
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Folks ? all I am trying to say ? is there ? or are there ? any solutions to keep those who are not loyal to the United States and the Constitution from voting in our election process where they have no skin in this game ?
Take for example ? the UN on sovereign US soil monitoring our election process and it's a given that they are up to no good at all.
I surely do not want anyone who does not have true loyalties to our country or our Constitution voting or involved in our election process.
21 posted on 11/01/2012 5:09:41 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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As many observe, an oath just ain’t what it used to be, especially when talking about democrats and muslims.

I respectfully suggest that a much more useful amendment would require one or both of the following measures:
1. You must be a taxpayer to vote. It is an intractable conflict of interest to be a person receiving government largesse and voting for people who can redistribute wealth. This would not apply to physically disabled persons or recipients of social security retirement benefits.

2. You must pass a civic competency examination. Next to government dependency, ignorance is the next great enemy of responsible voting. An astonishing number of people have no concept of how the government operates, where government revenue comes from or what are the founding principles of the country. Absent this basic information, it is impossible to make an informed decision about voting, as reflected by the election of such completely unqualified people as Obama and Clinton. Besides lack of experience, Obama seems to have been elected on nothing more than celebrity. Clinton had a limited, crappy record, a saxophone and his ability to “feel our pain” to recommend him. Nothing but a stupid, ignorant populous can explain their electoral success.


30 posted on 11/01/2012 7:14:31 PM PDT by JewishRighter
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Hell no! It should be obeyed and everything would be fine.


31 posted on 11/01/2012 7:18:12 PM PDT by lwoodham (I am Andrew Breitbart. Don't doubt me on this.)
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Heinlein's idea -- I agree

it should be an oath and service for some time (a year) to the nation. The service doesn't have to be in the military -- doctors can help in small villages/towns, young folks can help the elderly

Why, even a disabled teen, say a severely disabled teen is still a valuable person, who can help with their intelligence (I strongly believe as a Christian that everyone is a gift from God -- and i've seen downs syndrome children who truly are gifts)

and, if people don't want to do this, they should be allowed to opt out -- and they don't get a vote...

43 posted on 11/02/2012 3:22:19 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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