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EARTH was a BAKING LIFELESS DESERT for 5 MILLION years
The Register ^ | 10/19/2012 | By Brid-Aine Parnell

Posted on 10/19/2012 9:11:14 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Boffins have discovered that "lethally hot" ocean temperatures kept the Earth devoid of life for millions of years after the mass extinction that occurred 250 million years ago.

The global wipeout that ended the Permian era, before dinosaurs, wiped out nearly all of the world's species. Mass extinctions like these in Earth's history are usually followed by a "dead zone", a period of tens of thousands of years before new species crop up. But the early Triassic dead zone lasted millions of years, not thousands.

Boffins now reckon that the extra-long five million year dead zone was caused by screaming hot ocean temperatures in the tropics, making the land's forecast a balmy 50° to 60°C and 40°C at the sea-surface.

“Global warming has long been linked to the end-Permian mass extinction, but this study is the first to show extreme temperatures kept life from re-starting in Equatorial latitudes for millions of years," said study lead author Yadong Sun, a researcher at the University of Leeds.

In the dead zone, the tropics would have been very wet but with almost nothing growing, no forest, only shrubs and ferns, no fish or marine reptiles, just shellfish and virtually no land animals. Only the polar region would have offered any refuge from the blistering heat.

Before this study, scientists thought that the sea surface couldn't get any hotter than 30°C and certainly not the 40°C level at which marine life dies and photosynthesis stops.

Sun and his team figured it out by collecting data from 15,000 ancient teeth. The conodonts, tiny teeth from extinct eel-like fishes, were pulled from two tonnes of rock in South China. They form a skeleton using oxygen, and the oxygen isotopes are temperature-controlled. By examining the conodonts, the researchers were able to see how hot it was millions of years ago.

“Nobody has ever dared say that past climates attained these levels of heat. Hopefully future global warming won’t get anywhere near temperatures of 250 million years ago, but if it does we have shown that it may take millions of years to recover," Professor Paul Wignall of Leeds Uni said.

The study was published in Science.


TOPICS: History; Science
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; climatechange; creation; earth; evolution; genesis; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; godsgravesglyphs
"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters." ( Genesis 1:1,2)

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FROM Jamieson-Fausset-Brown's COMMENTARY OF GENESIS:

The earth was without form and void-or in "confusion and emptiness," as the words are rendered in Isa 34:11. This globe, at some undescribed period, having been convulsed and broken up, was a dark and watery waste for ages perhaps, till out of this chaotic state, the present fabric of the world was made to arise.

SEE HERE:

http://jfb.biblecommenter.com/genesis/1.htm

1 posted on 10/19/2012 9:11:20 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
So, by examining the teeth of eel-like animals, they were able to determine that the earth was lifeless for tens of thousands of years? The eel-like animals help us understand that the sea in particular was incapable of supporting life? Gee ... something doesn't seem right there ... give me a moment ...

Ya know, I find the Bible to be a lot more believable than this stuff.

2 posted on 10/19/2012 9:17:33 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Global Warming is a religion, and I don't want to be taxed to pay for a faith that is not mine.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I checked some tree rings and come up with that there was a flood that lasted forty days and nights but I can’t get these scientists to even give them a look.


3 posted on 10/19/2012 9:20:37 AM PDT by BipolarBob (G Orwell was an optimist it seems.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Then Algore came and made the earth cool, and created abundant life.

Then the angel Henry Ford became jealous, turned evil and denied Algore, and created the SUV to spoil all of Algore’s wondrous works.

Since then the earth has been sundered in the battle between good and Evil.


4 posted on 10/19/2012 9:21:38 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: SeekAndFind

250 million years ago most continents were all clumped togetehr into a “super continent” this has far more effect on screwy weather patterns. The fact that today the earth’s continets are more or less evenly distributed with large masses of water between them has had a very stabilizing effect on the global weather pattersn, in fact it is one of the thigs that has lead to periods of global cooling known as the “ice ages”. If we had another super continent situation, I would be worried about Global warming CAUSED by having a supercontinet over CO2 anyday.


5 posted on 10/19/2012 9:26:35 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: SeekAndFind

The historical sciences like evolution and the big bang theory are highly speculative in nature.


6 posted on 10/19/2012 9:35:08 AM PDT by microgood
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To: GraceG

The Snowball Earth hypothesis posits that the Earth’s surface became entirely or nearly entirely frozen at least once, some time earlier than 650 Mya (million years ago).

Do supercontinents make it hot? make it cold? Do climate patterns shift?

Nobody knows anything. They have these little theories that help them feel smart and in control, but most of this stuff becomes laughable with 20 years of first being put forward.


7 posted on 10/19/2012 9:46:53 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Global Warming is a religion, and I don't want to be taxed to pay for a faith that is not mine.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping.


8 posted on 10/19/2012 9:53:43 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (True North- Strong Leader, Strong Dollar, Strong and Free!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Once upon a time....just like ALL Fairy Tales!


9 posted on 10/19/2012 9:59:43 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Hopefully future global warming won’t get anywhere near temperatures of 250 million years ago, but if it does we have shown that it may take millions of years to recover," Professor Paul Wignall of Leeds Uni said.

I have no problem with responding to Dr. Wignall with an amused, "who cares?"

Given what we know about earth's history, we should expect some crazy stuff over the next billion years. Or maybe a different tense like "would have expected" or something, acknowledging the fact that not one of us or any recognizable ancestor of us will be subject to deadly global temperatures even under the current exaggerated models

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10 posted on 10/19/2012 11:11:35 AM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: Mr. Bird

Hello stupid. I meant “descendent” not “ancestor”.


11 posted on 10/19/2012 11:12:20 AM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: microgood

I think I believe in a combination of Creationism, and evolution though not on the same level. Humans evolve, look how much taller, and healthier we are today as opposed to 200 years ago. We are losing our hair, and our muscle structure.
The Big Bang theory always worked well with creationism for me. I can see God somewhere dropping a big firecracker into the nothingness! Waiting for the earth to cool, and the start adding things.
Also with all the stars out there, there have to be a lot of Earth like planets around.


12 posted on 10/19/2012 12:13:01 PM PDT by rikkir (Political office should be a sacrifice, not a reward. Do your service and GO HOME!)
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To: BipolarBob

Dendril chronology must be an interesting subject.


13 posted on 10/19/2012 1:58:23 PM PDT by bicyclerepair ( REPLACE D-W-S ! http://www.karenforcongress.com (I AM UNREPRESENTED))
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To: 75thOVI; agrace; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; aristotleman; Avoiding_Sulla; ...

Thanks Squawk 8888.
Boffins have discovered that "lethally hot" ocean temperatures kept the Earth devoid of life for millions of years after the mass extinction that occurred 250 million years ago.



14 posted on 10/19/2012 4:44:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Squawk 8888; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks Squawk 8888. The Permian extinction was the worst of the bunch, but by no means the last one.
Evolution in Your Face
by Patrick Huyghe
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Lake Victoria, Africa's largest lake, is home to more than 300 species of cichlids. These fish, which are popular in aquariums, are deep-bodied and have one nostril, rather than the usual two, on each side of the head. Seismic profiles and cores of the lake taken by a team headed by Thomas C. Johnson of the University of Minnesota, reveal that the lake dried up completely about 12,400 years ago. This means that the rate of speciation of cichlid fishes has been extremely rapid: something on average of one new species every 40 years!
To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


15 posted on 10/19/2012 4:45:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv; Kartographer
After the killer asteroid, surface of the planet uninhabitable for a million years.

How do you prep for that?

16 posted on 10/19/2012 4:51:18 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sharks have been around for over 400 million years.

Doesn’t sound quite right.


17 posted on 10/19/2012 4:54:19 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: SeekAndFind

Geologists need to update the way they look at things. Check out http://www.threeimpacts-twoevents.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/SIMULTANEOUS-IMPACTS7.pdf

According to the slide presentation at the link, it was the simultaneous impacts of two massive objects that configured Earth’s landforms and instilled its obliquity.


18 posted on 10/19/2012 5:04:15 PM PDT by mj81
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To: ClearCase_guy

Snowball Earth could not have happened. It is a conclusion based on a false hypothesis. Check out the presentations found here:

http://www.threeimpacts-twoevents.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/SIMULTANEOUS-IMPACTS7.pdf

and

http://www.threeimpacts-twoevents.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/COMET-IMPACT14.pdf


19 posted on 10/19/2012 5:08:26 PM PDT by mj81
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

“Sharks have been around for over 400 million years.”

Maybe they were hangin’ ‘round the Poles? Might be some interesting stuff way down South, under all that ice!

I had a couple of conodonts pulled today, so I’m not that “with it” this evening!


20 posted on 10/19/2012 5:09:59 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I know one thing for certain.

Once we are all dead, there will not be a single complaint.


21 posted on 10/19/2012 5:25:30 PM PDT by Gator113 (I would have voted for NEWT, now it's Ryan and the other guy.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: LegendHasIt

ROFL


22 posted on 10/19/2012 5:39:00 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
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To: SunkenCiv
the lake dried up completely about 12,400 years ago. This means that the rate of speciation of cichlid fishes has been extremely rapid: something on average of one new species every 40 years!

Nah; wrong conclusion. The Rift Valley Game & Fish Commission wildlife biologists drained the lake to eradicate undesirable species, then restocked it with 300 species of cichlids that were endangered elsewhere. *<];-')

23 posted on 10/19/2012 6:05:18 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: BenLurkin

Grab both ankles...


24 posted on 10/19/2012 6:17:14 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: ApplegateRanch

;’)


25 posted on 10/19/2012 6:27:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I have come to the conclusion that many of those who think that they believe in the theory of evolution are actually addicted to fantasy. They love fabricating “what ifs” and “it could have beens”, creating grand, grand scenarios, almost as if, in their own minds, they become a creator themselves. They don’t need cognisant logic, all they need is a slim thread of supposed evidence, and off they go, conjuring up grand illusions of what might have happened millions and millions of years ago, but we know never did. Their minds are basically trapped, held hostage by what appears to be an addiction that gives them some sort of weird and unnatural high.


26 posted on 10/19/2012 6:51:54 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Must be.

Hope you’re doing ok. ;)


27 posted on 10/19/2012 8:56:58 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: SeekAndFind

I recently cut-down a tree in my yard that was looking really skanky. Looking at the rings on the stump, you could clearly see about 25 years or regular, healthy growth, but the last five rings were blurred, irregular, and frankly sick looking. Matched the tree’s latest appearance.


28 posted on 10/20/2012 7:14:10 AM PDT by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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To: SeekAndFind

Someone needs to check Al Gore’s teeth.


29 posted on 10/20/2012 7:27:37 AM PDT by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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To: SunkenCiv

Sounds sketchy. This is a study based on the teeth of an “eel-like” creature that lived when no fish lived?


30 posted on 10/22/2012 12:10:36 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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31 posted on 10/23/2012 8:31:20 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Obama should change his campaign slogan to "Yes, we am!" Sounds as stupid as his administration is.)
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Imagine that.

I just can’t imagine what that does to the evolutionists position on the amount of mutations necessary over the amount of time now left to produce life.

/s

Does that fall under *punctuated equilibrium*?


32 posted on 10/24/2012 5:50:02 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: microgood

They aren’t “science”, they’re conjecture.
As you said, “speculative”.

No control, no repeatability, no falsifying conditions provided, etc.


33 posted on 10/24/2012 5:55:57 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: metmom
“Does that fall under *punctuated equilibrium*?”

Maybe “Punctured Equivocation”. Gould, the worm man, found a pogo stick approach to evolution made him the bad boy of paleontology and that appears to have been a goal for him.

Still his “Wonderful Life” on the Burgess Shale is an interesting book.

34 posted on 10/24/2012 6:12:14 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: SeekAndFind
“EARTH was a BAKING LIFELESS DESERT for 5 MILLION years”

And then stucco was invented and a metropolis called Phoenix rose from the caliche and cactus, a fortress where mankind could huddle around the refrigeration in chilly darkness.

35 posted on 10/24/2012 6:54:06 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: metmom

Thanks for the ping!


36 posted on 10/24/2012 9:16:44 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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