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VANITY You Are Transported To The Year 742 AD Europe And Allowed To Bring 3 Items From The Future
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Posted on 10/14/2012 8:02:34 AM PDT by trailhkr1

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To: Gaffer

You would save the world.Islam is an evil cult , the lies of this child molesting terrorist named Mohammad.


201 posted on 10/14/2012 10:59:25 PM PDT by Democrat_media (limit government to 5000 words of laws. how to limit gov Quantify limited government ...)
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To: gleeaikin

“I think in England they had Old Norse.”

In 742 it would have been Olde English, since the Norse first raided Lindisfarne (north east England) about 793.

Not to nit pick.

Old English descended from the Anglo-Saxons-Frisians-Jutes who had been going from the continent to Britain since around 500.

The Viking raiders and settlers came later.

Our modern English is the product of old English, Old Norse, Norman French, Latin, Gaelic, etc.

And a fine language it is, with a very large vocabulary making for precise and economic writing and speaking.


202 posted on 10/14/2012 11:00:38 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: MHGinTN

“...but not in any way a threat to their power.”

Heh. I wonder how long a Freeper would really last in a world with Kings and such before they opened their mouth and said something that got them drawn-and-quartered? (Or whatever the punishment of that era was).


203 posted on 10/14/2012 11:06:47 PM PDT by 21twelve (So I [God] gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. Psalm 81:12)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Hey, you can only have THREE seeds. ;’)


204 posted on 10/15/2012 4:00:18 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: gleeaikin

Good idea! Or, become fluent in Latin (and Spanish) before going.


205 posted on 10/15/2012 4:00:39 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear; gleeaikin
Can You Live This Fantasy Life
206 posted on 10/15/2012 4:52:34 AM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: trailhkr1
Well, HG Wells’ Time Traveler went to the future to fight the Morlocks on the behalf of the Eloi, with only three books, but at least he had an infrastructure with which to work. Going back to 732 AD, all I see is a miserable death by murder, disease, or starvation. Even if you lived, you'd still be miserable - the average American lives better than any king of that era.

I guess if I HAD to go, I'd want a printing press, movable type, and a book on paper-making, ink-formulation, press making, and how to make more movable type... and hope I ended up near a monastery.

207 posted on 10/15/2012 6:38:49 AM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: gleeaikin

Good point. My Vit C are rose hips based.......duh?
I was thinking about the extra minerals and multi, people didn’t eat processed breads, it was would have been substantial and whole grains (like that stuff we pay $5 a loaf for now, or make our own).
Mutton/cows probably would have been the most common meat, and root vegetables in the colder climates and a few other things in the warmer.
Here is an interesting article from the BBC, if you are curious.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ancient/british_prehistory/ironage_intro_01.shtml
I know there are people who study these sorts of things, there must be lots of information out there.


208 posted on 10/15/2012 10:38:21 AM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

If you’re going to park a car in cave, make it a Delorean. Confuse both archeologists and film makers.


209 posted on 10/15/2012 8:39:41 PM PDT by Redcitizen (A good pun is its own reword.)
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To: 21twelve

A Freeper would still be zotted by Viking Kitties. Standard
punishment in any era.


210 posted on 10/15/2012 9:16:59 PM PDT by Redcitizen (A good pun is its own reword.)
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To: svcw; All

Saurkraut is also an adequate source of Vitamin C. I remember reading about how healthy the Polish were with their large quantities of saurkraut. Actually the acidic quality enhances mineral absorption of other foods eaten at the same time. When my husband was fighting in Korea he made a point of learning to eat Kimchee. This Korean form of saurkraut, containing hot peppers (more C), is kept in jugs/vats outside each house in the countryside. He figures if he was ever captured and escaped he could travel at night back to US lines, eating kimchee as he went.


211 posted on 10/16/2012 12:37:38 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Redcitizen

Good idea!


212 posted on 10/16/2012 6:26:17 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: thecodont
Yup, though not printed, written out long-hand. Papyrus was cheap and universal throughout the Mediterranean world until the rise of Islam shut down trade between Egypt and Europe. The collapse in literacy (dating to the mid seventh century) was due to the sudden rise in the cost of anything to write on (parchment is very expensive compared to papyrus), not the Latin church, nor the Germanic barbarians. Visigothic Spain and Merovingian France were literate societies that still maintained Roman social organization complete with a bureaucracy -- dependent on papyrus.

I commend to all of your attention Henri Pirenne's Mohammed and Charlemagne, now available in an inexpensive Dover paperback, and the follow-up by Emmet Scott, Mohammed and Charlemagne Revisited new with year, which uses more recent archeological evidence to support and extend Pirenne's thesis that the collapse of classical civilization in the West was caused by the rise of Islam, not the Germanic barbarians (who by and large signed up to be Romans, so long as they got high places in government -- except for the Vandals, all of the Germanic kings in the West still owed at least theoretical allegiance to the Emperor in Constantinople, issuing coinage with the Emperor's picture, rather than their own, and even the Vandal kingdom in North Africa organized its administrative, economic and cultural life in the Roman pattern).

213 posted on 10/16/2012 6:49:31 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: keats5; trailhkr1

It depends where one ends up. The papyrus supply having been shut down by the Muslim conquest of Egypt (and Muslim piracy in the Mediterranean), most Bibles in Western Europe were on parchment, to very expensive to be in general circulation in the impoverished economy. In the still-wealthy, though besieged Empire, literacy remained the norm throughout the middle ages, despite the need to use parchment, and there were copies of the Scriptures in circulation among the populace. Guessing that someone who wants to bring a Bible, rather than trusting the eight century Church with the care of his soul is a protestant, I would suggest that trailhkr1 might find ending up in Constantinople congenial — in 742, the Imperial throne was held by an iconoclast, and the best evidence we have is that the iconoclasts were sort of proto-protestants (their Eucharistic theology expressed by the Iconoclastic Council of Hieria in 754 was that the Eucharist is the only “true icon” of Christ, and thus prefigured the “a symbol only” position of the later protestants).


214 posted on 10/16/2012 7:01:14 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: Stand Watch Listen

For number 1 (a), you’re too late.

By 742, the Muslims held North Africa, the Levant and Spain.

The main reason is that classical civilization collapsed (cf. Henri Pirenne’s work) was the rise of Islam.


215 posted on 10/16/2012 7:05:01 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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