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Declassified documents reveal Air Force’s plan to build a UFO
IO9 ^ | October 8, 2012 | Cyriaque Lamar

Posted on 10/08/2012 8:09:58 PM PDT by DogByte6RER

How to Build a FLYING SAUCER

USAF Project 1794, How to build a flying saucer

Declassified documents reveal Air Force’s plan to build a UFO

Here's a quirky find from the National Archives: the United States Air Force's 1956 plan to build a saucer-shaped aircraft that would zip across the skies with the greatest of ease. As the Archives explain of "Project 1794, Final Development Summary Report":

The Air Force had contracted the work out to a Canadian company, Avro Aircraft Limited in Ontario, to construct the disk-shaped craft. According to the same report, it was designed to be a vertical take-off and landing (VTOL) plane designed to reach a top speed of Mach 4, with a ceiling of over 100,000 feet, and a range of over 1,000 nautical miles.

And how much would this entire enterprise cost? From Project 1794:

Development and production aspects are briefly reviewed and an outline new program broader in scope than the study now completed is presented (to dovetail with the development envisaged), together with an accompanying cost estimate. This estimate covers a period of 18 to 24 months in the total amount of $3,168,000.

You can read more at the National Archives. It must be noted that — even in the public sphere of the 1950s — flying saucers were touted as the next great innovation in commuter transportation.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; History; Military/Veterans; Science; UFO's; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: 1950s; airforce; artbell; canada; declassified; flyingsaucer; militarytechnology; ufo; usaf
$3,168,000 here, $3,168,000 there, pretty soon it adds up to real money.
1 posted on 10/08/2012 8:10:09 PM PDT by DogByte6RER
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Read more; Mational Archive reference at:

How to Build a FLYING SAUCER

http://blogs.archives.gov/ndc/?p=426


2 posted on 10/08/2012 8:11:35 PM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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Read more; National Archives reference at:

How to Build a FLYING SAUCER

http://blogs.archives.gov/ndc/?p=426


3 posted on 10/08/2012 8:12:10 PM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER
UFO. UNIDENTIFIED flying object.

You would think that if they had plans to build something, it would be IDENTIFIED.

/johnny

4 posted on 10/08/2012 8:15:26 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: DogByte6RER

http://www.ufocasebook.com/canadausaufos.html
Lots there on AVRO’s project. Pretty cool...


5 posted on 10/08/2012 8:17:04 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: DogByte6RER

That is just silly, a UFO is an Unidentified Flying Object, if we know who built it - it is not unidentified.


6 posted on 10/08/2012 8:22:50 PM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Revolting cat!; Slings and Arrows; JoeProBono; Joe 6-pack
I built a UFO once. It even glowed in the dark.

Never attempted to build a flying car though...

7 posted on 10/08/2012 8:23:20 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: DogByte6RER; Clive; exg; Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; Byron_the_Aussie; ...

Canada Ping!


8 posted on 10/08/2012 8:23:35 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (True North- Strong Leader, Strong Dollar, Strong and Free!)
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To: DogByte6RER; All

The Air Force would actually have been building a “FO” not an “UFO”

Since the “Air Force” would have been building it...it would not be “Unidentified”...Am I right?


9 posted on 10/08/2012 8:24:20 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Political maturity is realizing that the "R" next to someone's name does not mean "conservative")
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To: Revolting cat!; Slings and Arrows; JoeProBono; Joe 6-pack
I don't know who licensed the molds but apparently this was THE kit and available for decades (including when I was growing up). Don't recall what the box looked like, probably something more like this (without the "limited edition" disclaimer).


10 posted on 10/08/2012 8:25:07 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: Squawk 8888

Canada Ping.


11 posted on 10/08/2012 8:25:37 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: DogByte6RER


12 posted on 10/08/2012 8:28:43 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: Squawk 8888
The US screwed you guys with help from your government, Avro especially, with some BS contracts. The Avro Arrow was ahead of it's time.

Sorry. Hit me up for a free beer next time you see me.

/johnny

13 posted on 10/08/2012 8:29:04 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: svcw

It’s unidentified if they dismiss it as a sighting of the USS Swamp Gas.


14 posted on 10/08/2012 8:30:07 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: zot; SeraphimApprentice

USAF UFO


15 posted on 10/08/2012 8:32:38 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: a fool in paradise

It says on the box 1/48th scale. UFOs must be real or how would they know the scale? ;^)


16 posted on 10/08/2012 8:34:21 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: DogByte6RER

If you know what it it is, it is not a UFO. Unidentified Flying Object. You could call it a IFO.


17 posted on 10/08/2012 8:36:07 PM PDT by ThomasThomas
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To: SeminoleCounty

Well... Technically, at least from the standpoint of some of those on the receiving end, the U.S. Air Force has used quite a few UFO’s. WE call them Stealth Fighters and Stealth Bombers. Those on the receiving end “never knew what hit them”.


18 posted on 10/08/2012 8:36:44 PM PDT by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Beat me to it


19 posted on 10/08/2012 8:47:10 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: DogByte6RER
It's not really news. I remember reading about the AVRO disk in a book called: Flying Saucers, Serious Business by Frank Edwards in 1968 or 1969. The stability problems with the Air Force prototypes were cited by UFO aficionados as proof that flying saucers really had to have some special sauce from an "advanced technology."
20 posted on 10/08/2012 9:01:55 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Andrew Sullivan. The blind pig who found a truffle on 9/11.)
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To: TigersEye

The model maker emailed GORT. He filled them in.....and right down to those forward firing twin Browning (you didn’t think he just invented for our planet didja?!) .501. cosmic sonic ion blasters mounted just ahead of that E.T pilot thingy to!!


21 posted on 10/08/2012 9:19:06 PM PDT by bobby.223 (Retired high up in the mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a GREAT life!)
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To: GreyFriar

Thanks for the ping. This concept was essentially a ducted fan. They built two small prototypes, one of which I have seen in the Garber Facility in Suitland, Maryland. Interesting idea, but it didn’t fly out of ground effect.


22 posted on 10/08/2012 9:23:52 PM PDT by zot
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To: DogByte6RER

I think it would be called an IFO, or Round Airplane~Craft or something. But not UFO.


23 posted on 10/08/2012 9:32:30 PM PDT by MaxMax
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To: DogByte6RER
From the November 2000 Popular Mechanics.


24 posted on 10/08/2012 9:34:16 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: bobby.223

I’d sure like to have an ion version Ma Deuce! ;-)


25 posted on 10/08/2012 9:34:36 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: SeminoleCounty

‘The Air Force would actually have been building a “FO” not an “UFO”’

Sorry, you’re wrong. A “FO” is what blacks in Cleveland get from Obama.


26 posted on 10/08/2012 9:42:18 PM PDT by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Bingo!


27 posted on 10/08/2012 9:52:18 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are just useful idiots.)
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To: DogByte6RER

A lot of the stealth fighter tests were reported as UFO’s.

My brother retired from the Air Force and he was at some of those sites out in the deserts of Nevada and Utah.

He said they’d stage fun (after beers) by taking trucks with junk on them and covering them with tarps and then drive them into the gates and “drop” the tarp and scramble to put the parts (many covered in foil) back onto the truck and into a hangar.

They’d have a good laugh knowing the Art Bell folks were watching.


28 posted on 10/08/2012 9:55:44 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are just useful idiots.)
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To: SeminoleCounty

“Since the “Air Force” would have been building it...it would not be “Unidentified”...Am I right?”

I agree. The USAF is not obligated to share with the general public all it knows and does but some people think the world should know everything that went on at Area 51 and now at Area 111.


29 posted on 10/09/2012 2:30:49 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
"UFO. UNIDENTIFIED flying object.

You would think that if they had plans to build something, it would be IDENTIFIED."

You clearly have no idea how government spending works /s

30 posted on 10/09/2012 3:38:56 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Hopey changey low emission unicorns and a crap sandwich)
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To: DogByte6RER

Radical design. I wonder how they came up with it.


31 posted on 10/09/2012 4:12:03 AM PDT by ILS21R (The time is nigh.)
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To: DogByte6RER

About the same time, didn’t AVRO build that Canadian fighter that crashed repeatedly..


32 posted on 10/09/2012 5:34:44 AM PDT by ken5050 (Barack Obama: An empty suit sitting in an empty chair...)
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To: DogByte6RER; KevinDavis; muawiyah; Las Vegas Dave

Thanks DogByte6RER. The WWII-era German flying saucer reportedly exceeded the speed of sound during flight tests, but of course it isn’t well documented. It’s very, very lucky that Herr Schickelgruber was an drooling incompetent in the military sphere.


33 posted on 10/09/2012 5:33:31 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv; ALASKA; ActionNewsBill; A knight without armor; albertp; aragorn; areafiftyone; ...

FWIW pings..


34 posted on 10/10/2012 1:59:30 AM PDT by Las Vegas Dave (".....All 57 states (or is it 58?) must stand together and defeat O'bozo!.....")
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To: FredZarguna

Films of the AVRO have been around for years. The thing was so unstable that they had to tether it, and only “fly” a couple feet off the ground. The thing was a complete boondoggle.
Tesla claimed he could build one though, in 1919!
“I am now planning aerial machines devoid of supporters planes, ailerons, propellers and other external attachments, which will be capable of immense speeds.”


35 posted on 10/10/2012 4:49:23 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: JoeProBono

Re: #12

I remember that episode. Scared the dickens out of me!


36 posted on 10/10/2012 9:46:20 AM PDT by BigSkyVic
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To: TigersEye

LOL


37 posted on 10/10/2012 9:50:35 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: SeminoleCounty
,i>Since the “Air Force” would have been building it...it would not be “Unidentified”...Am I right?

If it was highly classified, they would not be going around identifying it to any accidental observers, now would they?

38 posted on 10/10/2012 9:54:09 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: DogByte6RER

Yawn. There’s a USAF flying saucer prototype on display at the USAF Museum in Dayton OH. Its in the research plane hangar on the Wright Field reservation. To see it you need to get to the museum early and register for one of the hourly bus trips over there. The saucer is neat, but seems pretty small and unimpresive. Maybe because it’s sitting next to the XB-70.

Also neat are the Flying Jeeps/hovercars on display at Ft Eustis VA.


39 posted on 10/10/2012 9:54:18 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: BigSkyVic

40 posted on 10/10/2012 11:04:12 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: DogByte6RER

bttt


41 posted on 10/10/2012 11:07:45 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Corollary - Electing the same person over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity)
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To: DogByte6RER; EveningStar
thxs, for the post.
aviation ping

42 posted on 10/10/2012 11:08:57 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (WA DC E$tabli$hment; DNC/RNC/Unionists...Brazilian saying: "$@me Old $hit; w/ different flie$" :^)
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