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Will Science Someday Rule Out the Possibility of God?
Yahoo News/LiveScience.com ^ | Tue, Sep 18, 2012 | Natalie Wolchover

Posted on 10/01/2012 11:16:12 PM PDT by Olog-hai

Over the past few centuries, science can be said to have gradually chipped away at the traditional grounds for believing in God. Much of what once seemed mysterious—the existence of humanity, the life-bearing perfection of Earth, the workings of the universe—can now be explained by biology, astronomy, physics and other domains of science.

Although cosmic mysteries remain, Sean Carroll, a theoretical cosmologist at the California Institute of Technology, says there's good reason to think science will ultimately arrive at a complete understanding of the universe that leaves no grounds for God whatsoever. …

Another role for God is as a raison d'être for the universe. Even if cosmologists manage to explain how the universe began, and why it seems so fine-tuned for life, the question might remain why there is something as opposed to nothing. To many people, the answer to the question is God. According to Carroll, this answer pales under scrutiny. There can be no answer to such a question, he says. …

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Religion; Science
KEYWORDS: academicbias; antichristian; antitheism; atheistsupremacists; cit; culturewar; junkscience; moralabsolutes; pseudoscience; religion; thenogodgod
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To: Moonman62

To claim that anything comes from “nothing” implies that matter should pop in and out of existence spontaneously even now. But it does not. Creation always violates the laws of thermodynamics, so it is not possible for something to arise out of nothing.


21 posted on 10/02/2012 12:52:19 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
sorry, but to me a "theoretical cosmologist" is not a scientist. Science is tracking observable actions, not making leaps of fancy

He wants to replace one deity with another "an all powerful sense of something".

22 posted on 10/02/2012 12:56:38 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: GBA

religion does not compete with true science. True science talks about the how in observable actions. Religion deals with the intangible, science the tangible.


23 posted on 10/02/2012 12:58:01 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Cronos

I know that, but of course our buddies in the media want to set these neo-druids up as “scientists”.


24 posted on 10/02/2012 12:58:01 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
To claim that anything comes from “nothing” implies that matter should pop in and out of existence spontaneously even now.

Virtual particles do pop in and out of existence all the time.

25 posted on 10/02/2012 12:59:28 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: James C. Bennett
Physics of Star Trek? fooey, I;ll take your Enterprise and squash it with a Star Destroyer -- matterofact, I'd bet a star destroyer against everything the Federation can toss at it.
26 posted on 10/02/2012 12:59:28 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Olog-hai

Will God Someday Rule Out the Possibility of Science?


27 posted on 10/02/2012 1:04:32 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Moonman62

Those theoretical undetectable particles? Something has to be observable to be real to scientists, yes . . . ? The reality may be more edifying, I suspect.


28 posted on 10/02/2012 1:05:41 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai; FredZarguna
Some might say....

I know nothing.

29 posted on 10/02/2012 1:13:32 AM PDT by Daffynition (Self-respect: the secure feeling that no one, as yet, is suspicious. ~ HLM)
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To: central_va
Science falsely so-called, certainly.
And the king spake unto Ashpenaz the master of his eunuchs, that he should bring certain of the children of Israel, and of the king's seed, and of the princes; / Children in whom was no blemish, but well favoured, and skilful in all wisdom, and cunning in knowledge, and understanding science, and such as had ability in them to stand in the king’s palace, and whom they might teach the learning and the tongue of the Chaldeans.

— Daniel 1:3-4
The Hebrew word translated “science” here is also the modern Hebrew word for science (madda’ מדע).
30 posted on 10/02/2012 1:13:55 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

To discuss with hubby later.


31 posted on 10/02/2012 1:15:48 AM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: Olog-hai
All this discussion is a smoke screen. When you are dead, you cannot perceive God or Spiritual things. As you are born again, you then KNOW there is a change and a new person. A dead person will never understand this. As long as YOU see God, that is what matters. He introduces Himself to each individual in a way that is undeniable. The real question is why can't dead people understand what they see in other people changing their lives,.......because they are dead. They should be asking why they can't hear God, but it's easier to just say everyone else is crazy.

All the science discussion is just to try to prove there is no God. A Christian scientist knows there is God and sees His creation that way. If you look at the whole space program, it was mainly a program to try to prove water, bacteria, or some other organic material is somewhere off Earth. Finding a bacteria on Mars is a far cry from proving there is no God, but it makes them feel they are right and don't have to answer for their sins.

True science should prove evolution is impossible for an organism to stay alive long enough to mutate in a way to digest food, see with eyes, and other bodily functions. If you just look at the digestive system and it's enzymes, you should fall down in awe of the complexity involved to change a piece of meat into energy. How many organisms had to be born and then die because they couldn't eat and live before a mutant could digest food using hundreds of amino acids and enzymes? The mathematical possibilities are ZERO! How could they live long enough to reproduce without being able to eat? The questions write themselves.

32 posted on 10/02/2012 1:33:34 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: Olog-hai
When secular science results in technological applications that produce reality and then life perhaps...

...until then it's all theory and theories that lack the logical and reasonable assumptions of a higher being being ultimately responsible for what is us and around us.

33 posted on 10/02/2012 1:34:03 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Mitt who? I'm voting for Ryan.")
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To: Olog-hai
As a scientist, the answer is "NO!"

There are fundamental contradictions which remain unexplained, there are ongoing missing links, and as Einstein said, "As the diameter of a circle of light grows, so does the circumference of the darkness around it."

We don't know what we don't know yet, but those who are prideful in the knowledge we do possess think differently.

When we can come up with next week's weather forecast (a reliable one) week after week, when we can predict earthquakes with reliability, and say with certainty where and when lightning will strike, get back to me.

Otherwise, it is great fun to toss our meager intellects against the majesty of Creation in an effort to understand what God hath wrought.

34 posted on 10/02/2012 1:37:40 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: chuckles

What of the mathematical probability of developing DNA with sufficient instructions on how to digest material in order to prolong life and then reach the point of being able to reproduce . . . ? Enzymes themselves are programmed to catalyze but one chemical reaction, but who did the programming?—I have never seen any computer program write itself spontaneously (I’m sure IBM would have loved that, but that ain’t how it works).


35 posted on 10/02/2012 1:39:15 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

I always thinks it is funny when scientists use their God given ability to Reason to prove there is no God. In order for Reason to be valid it cannot be the effect of an irrational cause, it must separate and independent of nature. Otherwise it is simply the epiphenomenon of chemical reactions, electrical impulses, etc.

God is laughing His head off over all this nonsense.


36 posted on 10/02/2012 1:49:06 AM PDT by HerrBlucher (Praise to the Lord the Almighty the King of Creation)
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To: Born to Conserve

> Creationist may crucify you for suggesting it.

We may vigorously disagree, but we don’t crucify anybody.

In fact, the atheist communists have probably killed more Christians than all the other persecutors combined.

It’s the Christians that are crucified in this world, literally as well as figuratively.

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/shows/cwn/2009/October/Christians-Crucified-in-South-Sudan/

http://righttruth.typepad.com/right_truth/2007/07/christians-crud.html

... as well as shot to death, burned alive, beheaded, drowned, drawn and quartered, sawn in half, tortured.

http://www.persecution.com/

http://www.christianbook.com/foxes-book-of-martyrs/9780800786649/pd/0786645?event=CF

http://www.christianbook.com/martyrs-mirror-thieleman-van-braght/9780836113907/pd/611390X?event=CF


37 posted on 10/02/2012 1:51:26 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Olog-hai

Trying to disprove the Creator is a fools errand.


38 posted on 10/02/2012 1:55:20 AM PDT by Bullish (The stink from this amateur regime smells all the way to Kenya.)
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To: Daffynition; Olog-hai
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39 posted on 10/02/2012 2:12:25 AM PDT by FredZarguna (When a first-rate intellectual like Samuel L. Jackson makes this kind of a video ... well ...)
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To: Bullish
Trying to disprove the Creator is a fools errand.

Thus, the holy grail of liberals.
40 posted on 10/02/2012 2:16:29 AM PDT by 867V309
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