Posted on 09/27/2012 8:52:38 AM PDT by Little Ray
And you think that given a choice between the life of one of yours or your life and not killing a 6 or 7 year old with a gun or a bomb is not a good idea?
If I’m around I’ll be sure to make mention of your mercy on the headstone when the remains of you or your children are buried.
Some people are just purely amazing. I think a great idea though is to never have anyone with that thought process as a foxhole mate or backing me up in any way.
And, if memory serves me correctly, the organizers of the Sepoy Rebellion organized and trained in the same Taliban strongholds of the Afghan / Pakistani no-man’s-land they train in to this day.
I wonder what the Jihadis are teaching about “the perfect day”. Is the Sepoy uprising their example of “the perfect day”?
Understanding our enemies is a key to defeating them.
I have no idea what the jihadis are teaching.
I have read many books about the Sepoy Uprising, and the description in this essay bears little resemblance to what actually happened.
In particular, there is very little evidence of a widespread conspiracy.
Thugee is an odd one. It was more a hereditary thing than a religion to which one could convert.
Despite it being based on worship of Kali, a Hindu goddess, there were Muslim Thugs.
Of course it’s a good idea...at the time and when it actually happens...not as a preventative action for a possible future event.
I do not condone going somewhere and killing women, children and other innocent people just because something involving their countrymen might happen in the future.
I didn’t see anyone even suggesting that.
Why would you or anyone else borrow trouble by bringing that up when it was not even on the table? That does not make good sense.
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Even if Muslim, how can you say killing a 6 or 7yo is a really good idea?”
A - It’s easy for the filthy koranimals to murder children simply on the pretext that they’re kuffar. Just look at Beslan, Israel & what’s going on the Christians in Syria. Hell, the become a hero to their fellow herd members & they’re given the title of mucho-crap-in-jeans. Just look at all the posters & shirts they sell of those filthy koranimals in the West Bamk and Gaza.
You’re a filthy kafir. You have no value nor do your offspring.
Wrong is wrong, even when it is us. It is wrong to murder children, whether in the womb or the offspring of an evil enemy. Killing adult Muslims is arguably an act of preemptive self-defense. Take the children and raise them with love and let God's love do the rest.
Secondly, the "give the best shot" indicates a pre-determined plan. There wasn't
Thirdly the Kanpur (or Cawnpore) massacre is as Sherman points out, chaotic and hardly planned
As Sherman points out correctly Horrible atrocities were indeed committed by both sides, though the number of Indians murdered by the Brits is probably a large multiple (20x, 50x, 100x, who knows?) of the Brits murdered by Indians. This is largely because there just weren't that many Brits in India at the time, while there were lots and lots of Indians available for slaughter.
The point is that while these atrocities happened, the true nature of events bears little semblance to this definition of a "Perfect Day."
Sherman, I would also state that the ignorance of the article's author is because many people think of India as one country while it isn't -- the people of Punjab and of Madras as different nations, different races and their languages are as similar as Italian and Japanese
The "Indian Mutiny" was really just the "Gangetic north Indian mutiny" and even then it was mainly brought on by the erstwhile rulers trying to get back their power to collect more money
The common people saw the British as just another tax collector, no better, no worse
And for Tamils, Sikhs etc., the British were better than the Moslem rulers or the Marathas (to some extent)
islam preaches more on "convert the infidel"
(”islam preaches more on “convert the infidel”)- by blood. Are you being directly, a liar or just stupid?
In Thugee, the practitioners saw people as legitimate prey, they had no desire to convert them.
In Islam, people are to be given a chance to convert, but if they choose not to, they are legitimate prey.
The story of Thugee and its demise is a fascinating one. I think it would be more widely shown, except that it shows the British as accomplishing a positive thing.
That's why I cited Huế, In that case it was deliberate, planed, and co-ordinated The result? Everyone with a history of cooperating with the Americans and every member of the government and every member of their families were murdered in a single night.
The Sepoy revolt isn't a piece of malicious software that can only be robotically followed to inevitable failure, it, like all other military actions, is a learning experience.
The kid fell off the bicycle in 1857, I think he can give riding it a very good go today.
I think you make a really odd assumption that Muslims (or at least Muslims outside India) look back to the glory days of the First Indian War of Independence. I have never see anything even vaguely resembling evidence this is the case.
Even Pakistanis don’t identify with it that much, because the affected areas were entirely, I believe, inside what is now India. The revolt was also most emphatically not a “Muslim revolt.” Both Muslims and Hindus participated. To the extent there was an ideology behind the Mutiny, it was an inchoate desire to return to a better past.
I have seen a lot more glorification of the Mutiny by Hindus than Muslims. Many Hindus see it as a precursor to the independence struggle. Muslims, not so much, quite probably because it wasn’t specifically Muslim in motivation.
There are examples of much more effective mass murder of intruders, notably the Sicilian Vespers and the Asiatic Vespers of Mithridates the Great.
Hue was a massacre by a conquering army of its opponents and anybody else they took a dislike to, for which unfortunately the historical precedents are far too many to cite.
It was also relatively small beer on a historical scale, with somewhere between 3000 and 6000 probably murdered. Out of roughly 1M people, that isn’t a world-historical murder rate.
Iran doesn’t identify with the US, North Korea doesn’t identify with the US.
They both want to emulate the US as a nuclear power though.
Why is that do you suppose?
The US and the USSR didn’t identify with Nazi Germany, yet they both were quite happy to round up every German rocket scientist they could find, despite the fact that the V-2 didn’t win the war for Hitler.
Why was that do you suppose?
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