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Wrong note? School orchestra bans 6th-grader's purple violin
LA Times ^ | September 12, 2012 | John M. Glionna

Posted on 09/25/2012 11:58:09 AM PDT by Altariel

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To: OneWingedShark

There’s no reasoning with an authoritarian statist Philistine who believes in conformity.

Orchestras are not run like football teams or the army.

A certain amount of individual flamboyance is not only allowed, but encouraged.

Check out the wardrobe of Jacques-Yves Thibaudet sometime.


51 posted on 09/25/2012 1:53:35 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("On the ascent of Olympus, what's a botched bar or two?" -Artur Schnabel)
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To: Exit148

Bovine Scatology!


52 posted on 09/25/2012 1:55:38 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("On the ascent of Olympus, what's a botched bar or two?" -Artur Schnabel)
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To: Exit148

Given the stupidity of school administrations, I bet these “teachers” would object if the child turned up with an authentic stradavarius(sp?). “it would be unfair to the other students”

Musical instruments are very personal.

As for your example, I think parents only see THEIR little maestro to the exclusion of all others.


53 posted on 09/25/2012 1:57:57 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: All

I remember reading about an orchestra that was sued for discrimination.

HOWEVER it failed when it was pointed out the auditions were behind a visually opaque but sound transparent screen so those interviewing could ONLY judge based on sound alone. There was no way to have any appearance or look come into the judgment.

This thread seems to point out how some people are just would up a bit too tight.


54 posted on 09/25/2012 2:02:52 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Talisker

I read a wonderful article in my newspaper yesterday about a10-year-old kid who is into surfboarding competitively. He’s homeschooled, has the freedom to go to the West Coast or East Coast to surf anytime his parents let him, or visit his grandparents in Florida for six weeks at a time when invited, all through the school year. He just promises them to keep up with his school work, and I guess he does.

Too bad more kids don’t have that freedom. They’d be a lot happier.


55 posted on 09/25/2012 2:22:55 PM PDT by goldi
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To: goldi

The kids are only free to bang each other like rabbits these days


56 posted on 09/25/2012 2:24:20 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Emperor Palpatine
A certain amount of individual flamboyance is not only allowed, but encouraged.

Not when you're 5th deck 2nd violin it's not.

This girl needs to understand that society doesn't revolve around her (or more importantly, her mother).

57 posted on 09/25/2012 2:50:54 PM PDT by politicket (1 1/2 million attended Obama's coronation - only 14 missed work!)
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To: politicket
>>This girl needs to understand that society doesn't revolve around her (or more importantly, her mother). <<


58 posted on 09/25/2012 2:54:13 PM PDT by Daffynition (Self-respect: the secure feeling that no one, as yet, is suspicious. ~ HLM)
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To: absolootezer0

Good question. I played a chromed f-key trombone in school while all the other trombone players had standard brass (non f-key) trombones and I never had any complaints from any of my directors/teachers.


59 posted on 09/25/2012 2:54:16 PM PDT by RatSlayer
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To: All
"This whole thing is like telling Axl Rose he has to use some guitar from Kmart"

Axl Rose would sound MUCH better if he used a guitar from Kmart. He's talentless, but noisy.

60 posted on 09/25/2012 2:54:57 PM PDT by politicket (1 1/2 million attended Obama's coronation - only 14 missed work!)
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To: politicket

To be a competent and ABLE TO PERFORM with some aplomb in public, a certain amount of egotism is expected. And yes, artistic temeraments are given passes. An orchestra is not the place to teach conformity.

I see I’ve run across another brainless Philistine who knows nothing about music.


61 posted on 09/25/2012 3:03:32 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("On the ascent of Olympus, what's a botched bar or two?" -Artur Schnabel)
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To: Emperor Palpatine
I see I’ve run across another brainless Philistine who knows nothing about music.

I see I've run across someone who likes to attack others without reason - @SSWIPE!

You are obviously an egotistical pianist - the kind I abhor. Your previous ignorant comment about Steinways shows how big your head truly is - and not filled with brains.

Name me ONE string player in a major orchestra who is not a principal or assistant-principal and plays on a distinctly different color violin as a matter of course. They don't exist - ignoramus.

Please don't think that you're the only one in the world with a music background - you're not...and there are an ENORMOUS number of gifted pianists who would put you to absolute shame!

62 posted on 09/25/2012 3:18:03 PM PDT by politicket (1 1/2 million attended Obama's coronation - only 14 missed work!)
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To: politicket

Yes, in many of Europe’s majors you’ll see stringed instruments of all hues.

BTW, I’m right about current Long Island Steinways. If you must have one make sure it was made in Hamburg.

But they still cant hold a candle to the “Three B’s”, Baldwin, Bosendorfer, and Bechstein.

Egotistical? Somewhat....but you should see Gavrilov or Kissin in full meltdown mode for something truly entertaining.


63 posted on 09/25/2012 3:28:48 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("On the ascent of Olympus, what's a botched bar or two?" -Artur Schnabel)
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To: Emperor Palpatine
Yes, in many of Europe’s majors you’ll see stringed instruments of all hues.

Name me one player that can be verified. I was just over in Germany and the Czech Republic and saw nothing of the sort (especially blue).

BTW, I’m right about current Long Island Steinways. If you must have one make sure it was made in Hamburg.

I agree, but the Hamburg manufactured Steinways can be fine instruments

But they still cant hold a candle to the “Three B’s”, Baldwin, Bosendorfer, and Bechstein.

Newer Baldwins can be terrible. I agree that Bosendorfer and Bechstein can be great instruments if well maintained.

64 posted on 09/25/2012 3:39:26 PM PDT by politicket (1 1/2 million attended Obama's coronation - only 14 missed work!)
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To: hitkicker

I’m sorry I read that incorrectly.

However, I know there are a lot of crappy instruments these days that are colored and “look cool”.

http://musicalwholesale.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=116

They are known to be horrible!!!!

I play the flute, and my daughter has played it for years.


65 posted on 09/25/2012 5:03:26 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: Emperor Palpatine

I’ll just leave this here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NirRMrpbCFQ&sns=em


66 posted on 09/25/2012 6:11:52 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Exit148

She might have received passing glances from the audience, but most people focus on their own kids/grandkids at school concerts.


67 posted on 09/25/2012 9:10:54 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Talisker

No private school would allow a purple violin in a classical ensemble. You should be applauding a school district that has some principles.

Classical ensembles are about blending in and letting the music speak. They are very conservative in terms of appearance, and that is the professional standard..

If you’re doing pops, rock, etc, it’s a different matter.


68 posted on 09/25/2012 9:39:37 PM PDT by sunrise_sunset
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To: sunrise_sunset

“No private school would allow a purple violin in a classical ensemble. You should be applauding a school district that has some principles.”

Orchestras do NOT have instruments that all perfectly match in color, etc, even given the same type of instrument.

Conformity for the sake of conformity is inappropriate.


69 posted on 09/26/2012 7:53:10 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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70 posted on 09/26/2012 9:49:33 AM PDT by CedarDave (Presstitutes: Journalists who refuse to ask hard questions and who report by omission or distortion)
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To: luckystarmom
I think the issues is more with quality than the color of it.

I took some violin in school, I had a Stradivarius. The fiddle didn't sound good because I didn't play very well. Some of the other kids who had (mostly) Suzukis sounded a lot better.

71 posted on 09/26/2012 9:01:41 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (I will not comply.)
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