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N.J. bans driver's license smiles
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| Sept. 20, 2012
Posted on 09/21/2012 6:54:46 AM PDT by JoeProBono
TRENTON, N.J., - New Jersey officials said the ban on smiling for driver's licenses is due to facial recognition software designed to prevent fraud.
Mike Horan, spokesman for the New Jersey Motor Vehicle Commission, said people posing for driver's license pictures are asked to refrain from smiling or making other facial expressions so as not to confuse the facial recognition software, the Philadelphia Daily News reported Thursday.
The spokesman said the software, which was adopted in January, is designed to prevent anyone who already has a license from getting a second document under a different name.
"That could be someone trying to steal someone else's identity to get insurance benefits, or someone trying to get out of a DUI by getting a license under another name," Horan said. "This helps us weed out fraud."
Jan McKnight, a Pennsylvania Department of Transportation spokeswoman, said her state also uses the software, but smiling is not a problem.
"You can smile in Pennsylvania," she said.
TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: driverslicense; facerecognition; identitytheft; nj; nosmiling
To: JoeProBono
That’s just nuts. I smile most of the time. :)
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posted on
09/21/2012 7:02:13 AM PDT
by
RedMDer
(https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
To: JoeProBono
We can’t smile in PA it has always been that way.
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posted on
09/21/2012 7:02:20 AM PDT
by
angcat
(ROMNEY/RYAN 2012)
To: JoeProBono
The person who making doing the “no smile” rules, apparently has a very small idea as to how fascial recognition works.
The ratio of the width of your eye, the distance between eyes to nose, along with angles, eye to chin, position of nose to chin, position of ears on the face, shape of the face, lines in the chin, cheeks - these are things that do not typically move and are not affected by hairstyle, makeup or wigs.
Further, some camera’s use infra-red lenses that can see-through your sunglasses, wigs and makeup (and many other articles of clothing - by the way).
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posted on
09/21/2012 7:02:45 AM PDT
by
Hodar
(A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
To: RedMDer
Never fear, this rule is meaningless. Nobody ever smiles in a NJ DMV office. Trust me.
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posted on
09/21/2012 7:03:56 AM PDT
by
pepsi_junkie
(Who is John Galt?)
To: JoeProBono
My passport picture looks like I’m half dead and angry enough to strangle an annoying mid-level bureaucrat who has nothing better to do that p@#( me off. So it is perfect for getting through customs in any country. :-)
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posted on
09/21/2012 7:06:25 AM PDT
by
KarlInOhio
("Government is the only thing that we all belong to"=implicit repeal of the 13th amendment for all.)
To: RedMDer
Virginia started this a few years ago. Every photo looks like a mug shot. Very unattractive!
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posted on
09/21/2012 7:07:59 AM PDT
by
HokieMom
(Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
To: pepsi_junkie
In Maryland, our licenses expire on our birthday and many people wait until then to renew. Happy Birthdays have been song to each other. LOL.
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posted on
09/21/2012 7:07:59 AM PDT
by
RedMDer
(https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
To: RedMDer
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posted on
09/21/2012 7:08:06 AM PDT
by
JoeProBono
(A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
To: JoeProBono
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posted on
09/21/2012 7:09:15 AM PDT
by
RedMDer
(https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
To: Hodar
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posted on
09/21/2012 7:10:47 AM PDT
by
JoeProBono
(A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
To: JoeProBono
Is that an auto driver’s license? It also says, “Class D Boat”. Same license for both, maybe?
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posted on
09/21/2012 7:11:19 AM PDT
by
carriage_hill
(Libs, dems, unions, leftist scum & murderous muzzies - are like bacteria: attack, attack, attack!)
To: pepsi_junkie

NJ DMV
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posted on
09/21/2012 7:15:26 AM PDT
by
JoeProBono
(A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
To: carriage_hill
D Boat’s the guys street name
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posted on
09/21/2012 7:17:27 AM PDT
by
JoeProBono
(A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
To: JoeProBono
NJ would be happy with my TX drivers license. Not only am I not smiling it looks like I am crying and I have 2 black eyes. The expired license was the best photo I have ever taken, this new one is the worst. I was waiting for the woman to tell me to get ready when she said “that’s it you can go now”!
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posted on
09/21/2012 7:19:16 AM PDT
by
Ditter
To: Ditter
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posted on
09/21/2012 7:23:21 AM PDT
by
JoeProBono
(A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
To: JoeProBono
To: JoeProBono
“Organ Donor”? I feel sorry for the poor soul who ends up with that idiots brain.
To: JoeProBono; tanknetter
Dang, Joe.
That’s EXACTLY the way I’ve always pictured you!
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posted on
09/21/2012 7:42:46 AM PDT
by
Cletus.D.Yokel
(Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
To: JoeProBono
The spokesman said the software, which was adopted in January, is designed to prevent anyone who already has a license from getting a second document under a different name. That's the DMV software. But of course the photos will be used in the facial recognition software which will soon be tracking our movements everywhere.
To: JoeProBono
The State Trooper who took our pictures after we finished drivers’ ed in high school instructed us not to smile. When one of the gals insisted on smiling, he said something to the effect of “I don’t think you will be smiling when you get pulled over by a police officer”.
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posted on
09/21/2012 7:49:35 AM PDT
by
Arrowhead1952
("It's better to vote for a Republican you don't know than wind up with a dim you don't like".)
To: Lonesome in Massachussets
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posted on
09/21/2012 7:49:35 AM PDT
by
JoeProBono
(A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
To: JoeProBono
You know what's fascinating about that chart is that, to me, that does not appear to be a measurement of trustworthiness - it appears to be a measurement of masculine vs. feminine features. The guy on the left merely looks meaner than the guy on the right, but that doesn't necessarily correlate to "less trustworthy". The feminized guy is less threatening, maybe, but a milquetoast will screw you over as fast as a mean guy, sometimes faster because he doesn't have the guts to withstand things like peer pressure and intimidation.
As far as trustworthiness goes, I have more trust in masculine men because they tend to be the types who actually live by their word, whereas the feminine-looking guys seem to be the ones who just go with the path of least resistance. Looking at the scale at the top, the ones I would pick out as being more trustworthy-looking would be the ones just to the left of neutral.
This sort of "science" is probably the result of years of anti-male propaganda which have attempted to equate masculinity with criminal behavior.
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posted on
09/21/2012 8:03:16 AM PDT
by
fr_freak
To: JoeProBono
I wouldn’t live in that ****ing state ! Been there a few times and it is nice to leave NJ.
To: JoeProBono
Those are 2 distictively different faces. The skull shape is different, the indentation between the nose and the forehead are different, the shape of the jaw is different, the eyes are different in position, as well as shape. Facial recognitions would not identify these two different individuals as the same person - because they aren't he same person. You posted traits that people find "trustworthy".
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posted on
09/21/2012 8:29:26 AM PDT
by
Hodar
(A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
To: Hodar
>You posted traits that people find “trustworthy”.
I posted a silly picture
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posted on
09/21/2012 8:33:36 AM PDT
by
JoeProBono
(A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
To: HokieMom
Every photo looks like a mug shot
That's the plan. Will be a snap to convince the jury that you're guilty when declared an Enemy of the State.
To: JoeProBono
Half a mustache and black eyes but at least he is smiling. :D
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posted on
09/21/2012 9:14:36 AM PDT
by
Ditter
To: pepsi_junkie
As someone who just renewed my license this week, I agree with you.
What a bunch of bureaucratic, stupid, nasty people at the NJ DMV!
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