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New Discovery in George Zimmerman Case
Talkleft ^ | September 18, 2012 | Jeralyn Merritt

Posted on 09/20/2012 6:23:21 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

The state released some of its 6th and 7th round of discovery in the George Zimmerman case to the media today. The material was released about a month ago to the defense. Not everything released to the defense is included.

Of interest to those following the timeline of events the night of the shooting is the release of the event reports with times of the 911 calls. The primary one is here.

The conclusions in the DNA reports of the gun, holster, trigger and slide are pretty much a retread of previously released reports. Contrary to what some news outlets are reporting, they don't hurt Zimmerman's case since Zimmerman never said Trayvon Martin grabbed or even touched his holster or gun. He said he sensed or felt Trayvon reaching towards his gun after it became exposed while they were struggling on the ground, and that he grabbed Trayvon's hand to prevent him from getting to his gun. Obviously, Martin's DNA would not be on the holster or gun if Zimmerman stopped his hand from reaching them. [More...]

One of the drawings included appears to be that of Witness 6 (John), from his March 20 interview. The drawing is consistent with what he has said all along -- that he saw two males wrestling on the grass and then on the sidewalk. At both points, the male with the black shirt (Trayvon Martin) was on top. It appeared to him the man on the bottom (George) was struggling to get up.

The released material does not include cell phone records, which the state claims are exempt. The state obtained records on three phones: Zimmermans; Trayvons (belonging to Tracy Martin); and Witness 8 (Trayvon's phone friend Dee Dee.) It obtained Dee Dee's records by subpoena.

(Excerpt) Read more at talkleft.com ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: trayvonmartin; zimmerman
The medical report says the toxicology report was included with the autopsy and medical examiner's report. So why wasn't it released?
1 posted on 09/20/2012 6:23:29 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

This was self-defense-period.


2 posted on 09/20/2012 6:24:53 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: fortheDeclaration
The prosecution releases documents like GZ's school records that it never should have. Then they refuse to release the toxicology report, their star witness's phone records, and the cell tower pings which would verify the accuracy of those phone records. If they don't fit, they must acquit.

The Miami Herald and Orlando Sentinel and other media should be going to court to compel the state to release these records.

3 posted on 09/20/2012 6:36:25 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

>> they refuse to release the toxicology report, their star witness’s phone records, and the cell tower pings which would verify the accuracy of those phone records.

I think they’ve been released to the *defense team* — just not to the public.


4 posted on 09/20/2012 6:47:25 AM PDT by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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To: Nervous Tick
I think they’ve been released to the *defense team* — just not to the public.

But Florida's public records law does not permit them to do that. It must all be made public except photos. Here from the article:

Nor does today's discovery include the report of Trayvon Martin's toxicology testing by NMS labs. Discovery previously released included the conclusion of the toxicology report, but not the actual tests. I'm not sure why those are exempt under the public records law. They don't depict the victim or the shooting. Here is the Volusia County Medical Examiner's webpage on disclosure of the contents of the autopsy report. Trayvon's autopsy was performed by their office. The state's public records law web page states:

While autopsy reports are public record, autopsy photos are confidential. An agency may not delete information from a public record in the absence of a statute providing for the confidentiality or exemption of such information. Nor may an agency refuse to release an entire record because it may contain some confidential or exempt information; rather the agency is required to redact the exempt material and release the rest of the record.

The medical report says the toxicology report was included with the autopsy and medical examiner's report. So why wasn't it released?

5 posted on 09/20/2012 6:58:13 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Nervous Tick
I think they’ve been released to the *defense team* — just not to the public.

That information would make it even harder to get an unbiased jury.

6 posted on 09/20/2012 6:58:28 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Uncle Chip
So why wasn't it released?

They didn't want the potential jury to look unfavorably on 'the rebel, er, the victim'?

7 posted on 09/20/2012 7:02:20 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Uncle Chip

The Da doesn’t have to release anything to the media or public until trial if they so wish.

They’re only obligation is to release all info to the defense.

Maybe the DA is sandbagging some of what they have until they can get it in front of a jury. If the DA gets an “OJ Jury” Z is toast, regardless of what the true facts are.

Kind of like reverse-jury nullification.....


8 posted on 09/20/2012 7:09:35 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("On the ascent of Olympus, what's a botched bar or two?" -Artur Schnabel)
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To: Emperor Palpatine
Maybe the DA is sandbagging some of what they have until they can get it in front of a jury.

They're not sandbagging incriminating evidence which they don't have. They are sandbagging the exculpatory evidence that they don't want presented to a jury or the court of public opinion.

If the DA gets an “OJ Jury” Z is toast, regardless of what the true facts are.

That's why it should be as Hispanic as possible and exclude all emperors.

9 posted on 09/20/2012 7:20:18 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
"Purple drank" is a slang term for a recreational drug popular in the hip hop community in the southern United States. Its main ingredients are prescription-strength cough syrup containing codeine and promethazine, mixed with a soft drink and some hard candy to improve its flavor. The purplish hue of purple drank, and thus its name, comes from dyes in the cough syrup.

Here are the ingredients of "Lean", a variant of "Purple Drank". Look familiar?


10 posted on 09/20/2012 7:20:46 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

It sounds disgusting.


11 posted on 09/20/2012 7:22:59 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Uncle Chip
Slight correction: the Robitussin DM displayed is the "lite" version of Purple Drank. The full strength contains this sort of cough medicine:


12 posted on 09/20/2012 7:24:51 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Its main ingredients are prescription-strength cough syrup containing codeine and promethazine

That might explain why TM missed 53 days of school his last year.

He came down with a lot of colds from being out there in that notorious Florida sunshine with its warm nights and wasn't well enough to make it to school.

13 posted on 09/20/2012 7:34:15 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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That might explain why TM missed 53 days of school his last year.
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great info.
...one question? did he miss 53 days, in the partial year at the time? or was that for the last completed year?
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none of which should matter, if the witness say Trayvon on top, and with the injuries of Zimmerman, this should never have been prosecuted...


14 posted on 09/20/2012 7:45:22 AM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Uncle Chip; trisham

Apparently, Purple Drank is right up there with “lead poisoning” for killing rappers, especially when boosted with alcohol. References to it abound in rap music.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purple_drank#Notable_deaths_from_use

Trayvon’s Facebook posts indicate he was actively seeking other ingredients to make a batch of lean, namely Promethazine with Codeine VC, “Sizzurp” (slang for this type cough syrup, also used for Purple Drank and variants.)

Rapper Lil’ Wayne rather graphically described how addictive it is on MTV. “It ain’t that easy - feels like death in your stomach when you stop doing that sh*t. You gotta learn how to stop, you gotta go through detox. You gotta do all kinds of stuff.”


15 posted on 09/20/2012 8:04:50 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
I don't think I could gag down a tablespoon. I also hate codeine. Why anyone would risk death drinking this vile concoction is beyond me.

The entire "rap culture" is completely foreign to me, and how it has lasted so long is a mystery.

16 posted on 09/20/2012 9:05:04 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy; Beach_Babe

<>Trayvon’s Facebook posts indicate he was actively seeking other ingredients to make a batch of lean <>

Like those here:

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/05/25/warning-missed-sept-29th-2006-trayvon-martin-could-have-been-saved-but-no-one-noticed-he-was-just-like-thousands-of-other-children-from


17 posted on 09/20/2012 9:15:03 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
He should have requested help from the "IT" department.

They probably had several extra "skillets" Thugvon could have used.

At least, according to the Reverend Al Sharpton, that is...
18 posted on 09/20/2012 10:22:38 AM PDT by MarineDad
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