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so-you-think-socialism-isnt-really-that-bad
http://clashdaily.com/2012/09/so-you-think-socialism-isnt-really-that-bad/#ixzz26SQCA0CX ^ | Alena Pavlik

Posted on 09/14/2012 8:02:05 PM PDT by virgil283

"Is socialism really so bad? That was a question from my hairdresser, when I told her after last election that Obama would change the USA and we would slowly become a socialist republic. And I said “YES“, because I know – I grew up in a socialist country, the former Czechoslovakia. After the government nationalizes everything, there is no private business left. You work for the government, your children go to government schools, you shop in government stores (you hardly find there what you need – shortages of everything all the time)."

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TOPICS: History; Reference; Society
KEYWORDS: socialism; sourcetitlenoturl
"I compare it to a ZOO where there is a fence so you cannot leave; but you won’t die of hunger"...."I could not believe the hundreds of signs I saw at the DNC Charlotte convention. FORWARD/NOT BACK. How about Michelle Obama asking all to keep on sacrificing for our own kids and grandkids (while she enjoys luxury vacations traveling in the large private jet paid for by us taxpayers)?

Read more: http://clashdaily.com/2012/09/so-you-think-socialism-isnt-really-that-bad/#ixzz26VF1P4Ie

Too many of us are clueless and simply follow the crowd,

1 posted on 09/14/2012 8:02:11 PM PDT by virgil283
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To: virgil283

...wait till the Chinese call in their chips.....


2 posted on 09/14/2012 8:05:14 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Doogle
...wait till the Chinese call in their chips.....

Exactly. No more worthless paper fiat money. They want our gold and our oil.

We are so fu**ed.

3 posted on 09/14/2012 8:11:15 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: virgil283
You can't change the minds of the people who have drank the Kool Aide.
4 posted on 09/14/2012 8:14:54 PM PDT by JimmyMc
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To: virgil283

This is an excellent, concise statement by Ms. Pavlik of the real-world results of the evil, socialist/communist ideology.

Nobody listens, except a few of us.


5 posted on 09/14/2012 8:15:50 PM PDT by WXRGina (Further up and further in!)
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To: virgil283

Most of the ignorant now living among us believe that Socialism/communism is all about “free stuff”. They are ignorant as to what communism really is and are clueless about how many people have died because of communism.


6 posted on 09/14/2012 8:20:59 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The United States of America apologizing to knuckledragging, cavedwelling Neandethals. Whodda thunk!)
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To: virgil283

Out of control government killed over 100 Million people in the 20th century.

Naw, not that bad.


7 posted on 09/14/2012 8:22:22 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: unixfox

Nope, we will keep our gold and oil and send them our nukes. We will launch them and they can figure out how to catch them


8 posted on 09/14/2012 8:24:16 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: unixfox
They want our gold and our oil.

Actually, they want our scrap IRON and STEEL.

Remember the CASH FOR CLUNKERS program?

What do you think happened to all those cars that they poured liquid glass into the engines ?

9 posted on 09/14/2012 8:25:18 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: virgil283
You don't have to donate money to make a difference.

If You Live in a Blue State, Here Is What You Can Do To Help Romney Beat Obama

10 posted on 09/14/2012 8:26:23 PM PDT by Ziva (Check out the great art blog at http://blog.RetroCollage.com/)
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To: MNJohnnie
We will launch them and they can figure out how to catch them

Because playing volleyball with nukes works out well for humans.

11 posted on 09/14/2012 8:32:05 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: virgil283

In all fairness, what we are calling socialism isn’t entirely accurate, because it is actually a combination of three things: traditional socialism, national socialism (fascism), and international socialism.

Traditional socialism does try to nationalize “all the means of production”, absorb all organizations, and strive to the one (political) party state.

But the great laboratory for traditional socialism, intensely watched by socialists around the world, Lenin’s Russia, was such an abject failure in every particular that even pragmatic Lenin discarded most of it in favor of better systems. However, his replacement, Stalin, decided to force through traditional socialism at whatever cost, and in completely defiance and disregard as to whether it worked or not. Or who it hurt. It killed millions.

And while the useful leftist idiots tried to embrace Stalinism, the smarter socialists decided they needed a new model. And right then, national socialism was all the rage, and seemed terribly efficient (though that was all smoke and mirrors).

So “Ol’ Frank” Roosevelt adopted a whole bunch of fascist economic ideas, and tried to integrate them into traditional socialist thought. The largest of these “public-private partnerships” still exists today in the American agricultural sector.

After the war, National Socialism was somewhat out of favor, but a new type of socialism was emerging. It actually started after WWI with the League of Nations, as a philosophy, but really got its legs after WWII. It was International Socialism.

Today it thrives in the Socialist International association of political parties from around the world, which the US Democrat party embraces, but unofficially, as “socialism” is still political suicide in the US.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_International

And in the US, socialist internationalism is supported by an enormous network of organizations, “think tanks”, “billionaire clubs”, and members of both political parties. It is far more subtle than either traditional socialism or national socialism, using concealment, deceit and guile masterfully.

In any event, this is why it is so difficult to assign traditional socialism to Obama, because that is only part of where he is coming from. He also wants to include some bits of fascist economics, but he mostly wants to advance the agenda of the international socialism.


12 posted on 09/14/2012 8:35:13 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: virgil283

Socialism=good for backward societies who has no conception of liberties and personal responsibility. I prefer socialist Afghanistan, Iraq and Lybia other this mess they have anyday.
Socialism=bad and a national suicide for any advanced society. There is no reason to start with it in America but it was started and progressing.


13 posted on 09/14/2012 8:38:11 PM PDT by cunning_fish (.)
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To: virgil283
I didn't click on the link, but does the hairdresser own her own business? If so she's an even bigger idiot.
14 posted on 09/14/2012 8:51:45 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: virgil283

All those damn nitwits who would vote for Obama! This is incredible. Democrats and republicans have a lot to worry about. We cannot open the door to these nut jobs for another four years! You can’t run the US like the stink pile Chicago or gag-a-minute San Francisco! Damn the media for treating Obama just like an ordanary option to vote for. What crap!!


15 posted on 09/14/2012 9:14:19 PM PDT by Route395
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To: virgil283

I like to ask pro-Socialist why they like a system that may have to lock them in, as with Communism.
When I was living in Slovakia, I often went to a spot on the Danube that happens to be directly across the river from Austria.
It was a popular spot for those willing to die in their attempt to leave.
The old concrete building with 3 gun ramps is still there, along with a monument, listing many of those that died as they tried to leave Communism.


16 posted on 09/14/2012 9:18:46 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

That’s not counting the Wars, either. Seriously.


17 posted on 09/14/2012 9:23:09 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: virgil283
"I compare it to a ZOO where there is a fence so you cannot leave; but you won’t die of hunger"....

It is the "evolution" of the People going from Free People to Slaves to Pets to Livestock that only exists for the benefit of the elite...

18 posted on 09/15/2012 4:39:37 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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