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WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD VOLUME 37 SEPTEMBER 14, 2012
Free Republic | Sept. 14, 2012 | greeneyes

Posted on 09/14/2012 11:18:57 AM PDT by greeneyes

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks. No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread ... there is no telling where it will go and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us!

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Greetings from Missouri. We have a very crisp cool day today. Perfect to get some heavy work done outside. Burn order was lifted for the county, since we have had sufficient rain to make everything green again.

I have a few good tomatoes, all are green, so hope to have at least one batch before frost. Lemons are starting to turn from green to yellow.

Have a great weekend. God Bless.

1 posted on 09/14/2012 11:19:06 AM PDT by greeneyes
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To: greeneyes; Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler; SunkenCiv; HungarianGypsy; Gabz; ...

Pinging the List.


2 posted on 09/14/2012 11:25:31 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Thanks for the ping...

Question of the day... Cause I just don’t know

Bermuda Grass will not stay away tilling just makes it thicker and it seems even more robust after a till.

Other than pulling it which is futile at best.
What are my options?
My elderly neighbor said spray it with a herbicide but I do not want to hurt the soil... He said it will not but I want a second opinion.
Thoughts anyone?


3 posted on 09/14/2012 11:36:54 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (How do you say Arkanicide in Kenyan?)
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To: greeneyes

Woohoo! It’s been in the 80s the last two days and raining! Of course, now that the tomatoes finally have ripe ones on the vines, it’s too soggy to harvest them.

Had a toad in the garden this week. He and the lizards are welcome to feast all they want. Something has been digging holes.

I read somewhere that Dollar General has seed packages for 90% off.


4 posted on 09/14/2012 11:37:06 AM PDT by bgill
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To: greeneyes

Good afternoon. I’m clinging close to home to da;y managing my Mom’s business. Because I have POA to pay her bills and her mailing address was switched to here, etc., her health plan switched her to another group. I can’t get anyone in 2 offices to talk to me about it. Grrrrr.


5 posted on 09/14/2012 11:42:03 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Joe Biden is reported to be seeking asylum in a foreign country so he does not have to debate Ryan.)
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To: Rightly Biased

Nothing kills Bermuda. When the world ends, the only thing left will be Bermuda grass and fire ants. The roots are too deep. If you’re trying to put in a garden on top of where Bermuda is, just prepare yourself for a lifetime of headaches. You just have to live with it. Good luck.


6 posted on 09/14/2012 11:42:51 AM PDT by bgill
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To: bgill

Well isn’t that encouraging....

I have heard if you want a good stand of bermuda put in a calichi driveway or plant a garden...

I have had pretty good luck with it until this year and the durn bermuda will just not stay away... Its overwhelming this year.


7 posted on 09/14/2012 11:48:06 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (How do you say Arkanicide in Kenyan?)
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To: greeneyes

82 degrees in Torrance, CA.
No answer to the Bermuda grass question.

Random other question. Do some cactuses grow really slowly? Last year I threw dragon fruit seeds in a pot and 8 sprouted. They are now about 1.5 inches tall. That’s it. Eventually, a dragon fruit tree should be perhaps 5 feet tall. At this rate of growth, I’ll be passing on this plant in my will before it ever grows up and has fruit.


8 posted on 09/14/2012 11:50:22 AM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: Rightly Biased

I don’t know anything about Bermuda Grass, except that it can be invasive. Maybe one of our more expert gardeners can chime in, if they post to the thread.


9 posted on 09/14/2012 11:57:15 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: bgill

I love dollar general. I’ll have to check it out and see if we have the same deal. Almost everything should be pretty good for next year, except maybe corn.


10 posted on 09/14/2012 11:59:17 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Does anyone know if the date on seed packs at the store really matter. I have seen some with an end of year date 12/12 will they still be good next year.


11 posted on 09/14/2012 11:59:20 AM PDT by Ratman83
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To: afraidfortherepublic

My sympathies to you. I had POA for my Dad, and he lived with me for the last 5 years of his life. It was a Bittersweet time.

Just be thankful your Mom has you to help her. You are about to get a real education on health care for the elderly in this country - even before Obama Care.


12 posted on 09/14/2012 12:04:01 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Rightly Biased

In my experience, the only non-herbicidal way to get rid of Bermuda grass is to physically remove the plants themselves.

Dig/turn it and remove as much soil from the roots as practical, then dispose of the plants.

Then, periodically dig up the remnant roots that resprout; the more of the root you can get each time the less remains to resprout.

Eventually, the remaining roots will die because they never can replenish their stored nutrients as you keep pulling the “green sprouts” at every opportunity.

It’s tedious.


13 posted on 09/14/2012 12:06:36 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: greeneyes
Thank you for the ping. This side of MO got rain again off and on all day yesterday and last night. Everything is soggy, but that sure is no complaint.

I am making grape and plum jelly today until I get all the juice done. My tomatoes have finally stopped producing by the bushel basket, so have a very manageable amount to eat at my pleasure. There is almost as much green grass now as there is dead grass in the yard. Right now it is 63 degrees and feels awesome.

14 posted on 09/14/2012 12:06:43 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Please help Todd Akin defeat Claire and the GOP-e send money!!!!!)
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To: Ratman83

I used to have a list of seeds and their viability. IIRC most of them are good for 3 or 4 years and some longer. Especially if vacuum packed and stored in the refrigerator.

However, corn was listed as only a 2 year viability, but even corn should be ok for next year. I usually do get seeds at end of year sales, and plant them in grow pots indoors the next spring to make seedlings for transplant.


15 posted on 09/14/2012 12:09:29 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Just mythoughts
We just got some rain this morning. Hope we have a sunny day tomorrow. I want to get some gardening chores done, and start planting the winter garden.
16 posted on 09/14/2012 12:14:10 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Just mythoughts

Frugal tip - make plum and grape butter from the leftover pulp.


17 posted on 09/14/2012 12:18:48 PM PDT by bgill
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To: greeneyes

I’ve got horseradish to harvest, but aside from that I’ve given up for this year. I’ll clean up and burn after we get a good hard freeze. Try again next year.


18 posted on 09/14/2012 12:19:44 PM PDT by Augie
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To: greeneyes; Ratman83

Here’s a list of seed viability. Most will last several years.

http://www.growingyourownveg.com/vegetableseedviability.php


19 posted on 09/14/2012 12:24:03 PM PDT by bgill
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To: greeneyes

Central Texas finally got some rain during the past 24 hours. I recorded just under 3” and several reports to the north were 6” - 8”. Temps will stay in the 60s today.

Several boat docks were demolished on the smaller feeder streams into Lake Travis. Areas around Johnson City got close to 7” and all that feeds into the lake.


20 posted on 09/14/2012 12:25:43 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 ("It's better to vote for a Republican you don't know than wind up with a dim you don't like".)
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