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Galaxy Cluster Stuns Scientists—Supermassive and Spewing Out Stars
nationalgeographic.com ^ | August 15, 2012 | Andrew Fazekas

Posted on 08/15/2012 11:05:48 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

It seemed too good to be true: a superbright newfound galaxy cluster possibly more massive than any other known, forging fresh stars nearly a thousand times faster than normal.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.nationalgeographic.com ...


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: astronomy; galaxies; phoenixcluster; science; space; starfactory; stars; stringtheory; xplanets

1 posted on 08/15/2012 11:05:59 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

so what’s 5.7 billion light years between friends?

I can never grasp the numbers, time, distances in astrophysics.


2 posted on 08/15/2012 11:15:25 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Berlin_Freeper

3 posted on 08/15/2012 11:29:34 PM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: onyx
The Phoenix Cluster

Phoenix Cluster

4 posted on 08/15/2012 11:51:59 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Siri: Paul Ryan 2016)
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To: SunkenCiv

Astronomy ping


5 posted on 08/16/2012 12:02:52 AM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Bflr


6 posted on 08/16/2012 12:05:00 AM PDT by colinhester
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Awesome!
Thank you very much, dearest Berlin_FReeper!


7 posted on 08/16/2012 12:10:07 AM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

The tour of Phoenix has more than 300 views than the other, (I can understand why) but none are racking up more viewing numbers. I watched the “tour” twice.


8 posted on 08/16/2012 12:14:03 AM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Berlin_Freeper; fieldmarshaldj; Perdogg; DarthVader; GOPsterinMA; AuH2ORepublican

Is Michelle’s home planet of Kashyyyk in one of those galaxies?

She’s a Wookie from Kashyyyk but she lives on Earth, that does not make sense!


9 posted on 08/16/2012 12:29:46 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: onyx

Such a pretty wonderment.
My pleasure, onyx. :)


10 posted on 08/16/2012 12:32:08 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Siri: Paul Ryan 2016)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

And just who the heck dcides what is ‘normal’. L-rd, but ‘scientists’ are so egotistical! As IF the entire universe operates the way they say it SHOULD, and if it doesn’t, well, that’s just abnormal.


11 posted on 08/16/2012 12:36:12 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Stunningly beautiful. God’s creation.


12 posted on 08/16/2012 12:41:04 AM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Impy

You’re right. I think that it’s clear that we must acquit.


13 posted on 08/16/2012 2:59:30 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: MestaMachine

Let’s grant that God gets to decide what’s normal. When a phemenon outdistances other members of it’s class, it’s abnormal. Einstein was abnormally gifted and persistent, by any standard.

This finding is provocative because it appears, to my untutored mind, to challenge conventional cosmology because it’s an outlier. Conventional cosmology claims that there is no center of the Universe, that one patch of the universe, on a large enough scale, is pretty much like any other.

But what if it’s not? That will stand cosmology on it’s figurative head.


14 posted on 08/16/2012 3:50:43 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The Democratic Party strongly supports full civil rights for necro-Americans!)
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To: MestaMachine
Get a grip on yourself - it's just compared to what has been observed (not dictated by scientists) in other cases.
15 posted on 08/16/2012 3:58:52 AM PDT by Moltke ("I am Dr. Sonderborg," he said, "and I don't want any nonsense.")
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Is this where a black hole empties out?


16 posted on 08/16/2012 4:08:03 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Corollary - Electing the same person over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

WOW! And what the scientists are seeing (at 5.7 billion light years from Earth) all happened nearly 600 million years before the Earth was even here!


17 posted on 08/16/2012 4:24:43 AM PDT by 762X51
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To: Moltke

I wish I had a nickle for everytime a scientist has said, “We must rethink this.”
My fortune would surpass the richest man on earth and then some.


18 posted on 08/16/2012 5:30:50 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: EDINVA
I can never grasp the numbers, time, distances in astrophysics.

Heck, I can't even truly grasp 1000 years or miles - I wonder if there's a human being alive who can. Scientists very confidently publish these numbers - millions / billions of years / light years - their "standard" models need these incredible numbers in order to be somewhat credible. How wrong can these models be when they completely ignore so many possibilities - especially the possibility of a creator?

Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, - Romans 1:22

19 posted on 08/16/2012 5:41:02 AM PDT by nomodem
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To: Impy

LOL!!! >;0)


20 posted on 08/16/2012 6:40:05 AM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

BFLV


21 posted on 08/16/2012 6:54:16 AM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: nomodem

Seriously! I can never square the universe - the numbers or the photos - with folks who insist there is no Creator. That disbelieve can only be a vanity (or fear) of the professed atheist.


22 posted on 08/16/2012 7:44:38 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Berlin_Freeper

23 posted on 08/16/2012 7:46:41 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: KevinDavis; annie laurie; Knitting A Conundrum; Viking2002; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Mmogamer; ...
Thanks Captain Beyond.
 
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24 posted on 08/16/2012 3:26:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Thanks Captain Beyond.

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25 posted on 08/16/2012 3:27:57 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: EDINVA

The easiest way to think about this is to consider that (according to the way we measure distance) the universe is about 14 billion years old. That means that the galaxy discovered is approximately 5.7/14 = 40% of the radius of the universe away from us...

It will take a long time for us to get there to check it out in person... barring, of course, the super-ultra-hyperdrive device I am working on.


26 posted on 08/17/2012 9:35:47 AM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: brytlea; cripplecreek; decimon; bigheadfred; KoRn; Grammy; married21; steelyourfaith; Mmogamer; ...

Thanks Captain Beyond, it’s an ‘extra, extra’ ping to APoD members, should have done this when it first appeared. One of two topics about this. :’)


27 posted on 08/18/2012 8:26:02 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: 762X51; EDINVA; SunkenCiv
WOW! And what the scientists are seeing (at 5.7 billion light years from Earth) all happened nearly 600 million years before the Earth was even here!

Like EDINVA, it is impossible to grasp these numbers and distances. What stood out for me in the NatGeo article and put things into better perspective was this.

It's so massive, McDonald said, that our own galaxy group—not quite a cluster, at about 30 galaxies, including the Milky Way—has only about 0.1 percent the mass of Phoenix.

The Milky Way Galaxy



Number of stars within 50 000 light years = 200 billion

And even this is a stretch for the imagination.

28 posted on 08/18/2012 8:53:38 AM PDT by NYer (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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To: NYer

Deputy Barney Fife should pop up in the digital displays at these observatories shouting, “it’s BIG! Big big!” ;’)


29 posted on 08/18/2012 5:53:35 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Lol! Thanks for that ping and post :-)


30 posted on 08/19/2012 2:21:28 PM PDT by NYer (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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