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Does Your Job Really Require Algebra?
RCM ^ | 08/08/2012 | Jacob Vigdor

Posted on 08/08/2012 4:34:06 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Rebelbase
I've got an early 60's edition of The American Practical Navigator. It amazes me that one young man, Nathanial Bowditch, wrote this book in the late 18th Century and helped to make America a Sea Power.

I, too, possess a copy of that book. I acquired it back in the eighties, faced with an interesting problem in database marketing. We had a list of several million consumers who were good prospects of our client, who had a network of retail outlets. The idea was, let's send out computer letters to the consumers, informing them where the nearest outlets were. But that would have needed a table of nearest stores by zipcode. Which we didn't have.

However, someone on our team latched onto a database linking five-digit zip codes to latitude / longitude pairs (trivial in the Google age, but required connections of the non-ISP variety in the eighties). Obviously, the answer was to compile a list of nearest stores based on zipcode and use that. Simple: just calculate the distance from the customer's zip to the nearest outlets' by zip. That's where Bowditch (and the IBM 360 floating point instruction set and Fortran 4H libraries) came in (with some assembly language trig simplifications in the interest of computational efficiency).

Of course, it didn't work out too well. Some of the results were positively embarrassing. E.g., folks on Long Island needed boats to reach those near stores in Connecticut. But, for most of the country, it was fine, and the marketing campaign was judged successful.

61 posted on 08/08/2012 10:20:21 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Eye of Unk
I don’t need algebra, this is my job, and its only part of my skills. Too much emphasis on kids for narrow field expertise, and when those jobs are scarce they starve or become dependent on the Feds.

You never know when you're going to need a new skill. The trick is to know when you need a new skill and to have what it takes to add the skill to yourself or buy it from whomever (the judgement between those two choices being yet another skill, LOL).

62 posted on 08/08/2012 10:32:21 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Georgia Girl 2; jboot
S.M.S.G. alum myself. Find a fourth and we can play double deck pinochle.
63 posted on 08/08/2012 11:37:01 PM PDT by kitchen (Over gunned is better than the alternative.)
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To: discostu

>> Nope, not in the software industry.

That’s funny given all the symbols, statements, and functions.


64 posted on 08/09/2012 12:12:07 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Gene Eric
>> Nope, not in the software industry.

That’s funny given all the symbols, statements, and functions.

It depends on what you do. If you are working on top of the stack building web pages or user interfaces, he's mostly right. If you are further down in the stack developing interfaces or function libraries, less so. And if you are programming at the base you must live and breathe higher math. I spend my time in the middle writing stored procedures and data mining functions. The math is frequently challenging.

65 posted on 08/09/2012 6:02:03 AM PDT by jboot (OPSEC. It's a killjoy, but it may save your life someday.)
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To: Eye of Unk

Are they hiring at your concrete batch plant? My husband was a foreman for wetcast and drycast; form construction, reading blueprints, the fineries of concrete—until the worldwide company got smart and closed their plant in upstate NY. He left about a year before they closed for good and is now doing HVAC.


66 posted on 11/20/2012 6:10:05 AM PST by AbolishCSEU (Percentage of Income in CS is inversely proportionate to Mother's parenting of children)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

I think there are two kinds of people in the world - those who like algebra and those who like geometry.

I loved algebra. Loved doing the homework. It was so much fun. Geometry on the other hand I didn’t like. It seemed to me all about putting numbers into formulas. Very boring but probably useful if you’re going to sell carpet for a living.

I have never used geometry since high school. I use algebra every day.


67 posted on 11/20/2012 6:41:36 AM PST by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: cynwoody

I just went to my mailbox and found an article that’s relevant to this discussion.

Here is a link to the article: http://www.mauldineconomics.com/frontlinethoughts/where-will-the-jobs-come-from

John Mauldin writes some interesting articles.


68 posted on 11/20/2012 6:50:12 AM PST by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: SeekAndFind

When I took algebra I hated the “mixture” problems. That is, combining various materials to achieve the right mixture at the optimal price. I got out of school and then spent the next 7 years doing those. Ouch.


69 posted on 11/20/2012 6:55:13 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: AbolishCSEU

We are seasonally shutting down in a week or two, and will open back up for a limted basis after the first of the year. The season for us here in Alaska usually starts in may until november.


70 posted on 11/20/2012 7:04:29 AM PST by Eye of Unk (A Civil Cold War in America is here, its already been declared.)
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To: Just another Joe
You cannot treat students as a cooky-cutter assembly line, which is what almost all schools try to do nowadays.

The US Department of Education has said that it is a violation of civil rights to divide students according to abilities. Seriously.

71 posted on 11/20/2012 7:05:06 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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