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UFO For Sale, Check It Out
E=Bay ^ | Aug 8 2012 | dyanamae2001

Posted on 08/08/2012 2:32:16 AM PDT by Yosemitest

You gotta' see this, located at Henderson, NV, United States!


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; UFO's; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: aircraft; experimental; ibtz; nuttery; project; ufo
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Wow, now I know the source of some of those weird sitings.
1 posted on 08/08/2012 2:32:29 AM PDT by Yosemitest
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To: Yosemitest

Go to eBay to see the real item for sale. It is NOT the one in the picture.


2 posted on 08/08/2012 2:35:27 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Yosemitest

“For sale is UFO on other photos with full aluminum construction in green color and black leather covered wings.”

AWEsome
......

“About our knowledge, what we know just from rumor by mouth, there existed two prototypes of this aircraft. The previous one which was actually flying and then was donated to the Air force of India during the 60’s and 70’s which was used to train the fighter pilots and what happened with this aircraft nobody knows and it disappeared in time”

Even more awesomeness.


3 posted on 08/08/2012 2:41:33 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Gaffer


NOT A UFO AND NEVER WAS!
4 posted on 08/08/2012 2:43:39 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth again.)
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To: Gaffer
I tried to post that photo, but I couldn't get it, and the photo posted is the closest to it.

5 posted on 08/08/2012 2:46:49 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: equaviator

Okay, you name that aircraft. Identify it, if you can.


6 posted on 08/08/2012 2:48:29 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: Yosemitest

It’s hard enough to get a “flying wing” aircraft to be stable with fly by wire, that thing looks like a decommissioned old crop duster that someone took and wrapped a swimming pool cover over the wings to make it look “cool”.

For sale. One semi-circular death machine, never used. Inquire within...


7 posted on 08/08/2012 2:51:46 AM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (With (R)epublicans like these, who needs (D)emocrats?)
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To: Yosemitest

Understood. However, the one for sale is a very very crude facsimile of the one the USAF had in its photo. This must have been a very early prototype from a bidder who didn’t get the job.


8 posted on 08/08/2012 2:53:19 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: equaviator

Never said it was.


9 posted on 08/08/2012 2:54:21 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Dr.Zoidberg
After 26 plus years of USAF air traffic control and 4 years of FAA air traffic control, I would guess that it was aerodynamically neutral (at best) or unstable.
Here, read this:
10 posted on 08/08/2012 3:00:05 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: Yosemitest

“For sale is UFO on other photos with full aluminum construction in green color and black leather covered wings.”

If it doesn’t have cup holders, forget it!


11 posted on 08/08/2012 3:07:51 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: Yosemitest

How many light years does it have on it?


12 posted on 08/08/2012 3:08:54 AM PDT by Catmom
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To: Yosemitest
An excerpt of the long story in the link : THEY DO EXIST Jack and Harold learned that some experimental jet aircraft were being stored at the base salvage/scrap-yard. These particular aircraft had already been decommissioned/declassified, and were parked directly outside, and NOT in a hangar. ................... "My gosh! Those are Flying Saucers! Those things really do exist!". There, parked outside on a taxi-way near the base scrap-yard, were four flying wing discs, measuring 20, 40, 70 and 116 feet in diameter. ...................... Because they were the last remaining of their model, the Master Sergeant of the Non-Commissioned Officer's Club telephoned the Adjutant General's Office for permission for Polaroid photographs to be taken.......................The Master Sergeant stated to Jack that he was not sure what these aircraft were for, but thought they might be some sort of "test" aircraft. The General's Office suggested that Jack use higher quality official Air Force photographs available at the Adjutant General's library at MacDill. .....................Jack was issued for his article, the highest security clearance ever given to any civilian publisher due to his prior work with SAC/TAC/Navy/Army bases. Under armed military guard, Jack was personally shown literally hundreds of official U.S.A.F. photographs of these aircraft in formation flight, on the tarmac, and was shown portions of motion picture footage of these aircraft in flight. Jack was allowed to select those photographs best suited for the up-coming NCO Club newsletter article, and obtain additional detailed information concerning the discs. ...............

Yeah, last time I looked when in the AF back then, the Master Sergeant of the NCO Club called all the shots about secret military aircraft. As for the highest clearance granting - just plain BS, there's still such a thing as NEED TO KNOW.... Lastly, all the pictures in the link are computer graphics generations. Apologize for the length of the excerpt - tried to cut as much as possible but one has to get a sense of just how poorly documented the site's recounts are.

13 posted on 08/08/2012 3:14:08 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Yosemitest

As long as the USAF knows what it was (then and now) it’s not a UFO.

Don’t make the mistake of assuming that just because the public doesn’t know what it is, that it was ever a UFO.


14 posted on 08/08/2012 3:16:41 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth again.)
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To: Gaffer
Take a look at the one for sale's cockpit and glass and compare it to the cockpit of this TBF Avenger.
I think it's close and it's possible one might have been used to construct the one for sale.
15 posted on 08/08/2012 3:17:14 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: Yosemitest

Yes, it looks like it could be.


16 posted on 08/08/2012 3:19:11 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: equaviator
The public couldn't identify it, hence it's an "unidentified flying object".
Enjoy the humor.
17 posted on 08/08/2012 3:20:42 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: Gaffer
I've had several co-workers that spent time at “Dream-Land”
and the military was experimenting with some pretty weird stuff in the 60’s and 70’s, out in Nevada.
18 posted on 08/08/2012 3:23:21 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: WKUHilltopper

That’s not leather. It’s radar absorbing paint.


19 posted on 08/08/2012 3:26:20 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: Yosemitest

Oh yes....the AF was adventurous and full of grits back in the post war years (and for some efforts, a couple of decades afterwards). They’d just won a war, feeling their oats, moved into the jet age - made tremendous advances in altitude, speed, endurance, etc (expanding the flight envelope). America was rich, the superpower with money to burn.

Then, science began to give way to politics - jobs. B-2 was overbloated because of California jobs and jobs in key districts, Osprey, C-17, KC-135 replacement, et al were more politics than procurement.


20 posted on 08/08/2012 3:30:36 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Yosemitest

“Enjoy the humor.”

It IS to laugh!


21 posted on 08/08/2012 3:38:15 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth again.)
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To: Gaffer
My co-workers were there during the U-2 and SR-71, and the for project Tacit Blue.
Now what comes after the US secret 'space plane': X-37B ?
22 posted on 08/08/2012 3:40:04 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: Yosemitest
I knew the gummint wuz sellin some shuttles, but?...


23 posted on 08/08/2012 3:43:08 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Vaquero
Now that's MORE THAN JUST a Land Rover!
24 posted on 08/08/2012 3:45:46 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: Yosemitest

Skunkworks projects (U-2 and SR71) IIRC.

I was stationed at a place (Kadena) where the SR flew almost daily, headed west. We called them the “Habu” at the base, locally. There were also one or two U-2s around.

There’s the old tale of how Kennedy was going to announce the new 3000 MPH plane, the RS71. He said “SR71” and they ended up changing the designation.

What’s next? Well I don’t believe it’s a hypersonic vehicle to move stuff or people from one place to another. I could believe a kill vehicle with something like a daisy cutter / bunkerbuster , or even an EMP on board for a one-way trip.


25 posted on 08/08/2012 3:51:23 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Yosemitest
100% of the final sale price will support Aura Humanitatis-

About this nonprofit:
Church of Scientific Theology is a scientifically based church for the 3rd millenium - with its own very specific theological theory Scientific Theology. A complex of ideas, believes and teachings, based on scientific ways of thinking like logical analysis and scientific methodology of evidences and proofs - which teaches that there is a strong connection between scientific and a theological idea of God.

26 posted on 08/08/2012 3:53:40 AM PDT by airborne (MY HEROES DON'T WEAR CAPES. MY HEROES WEAR DOG TAGS ! ! !)
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To: Vaquero
Hey, let's send Barack Obama to Mars in that thing. I'm sure NASA will be glad to help, since Obama's helped them with their missions.
27 posted on 08/08/2012 3:55:35 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: Gaffer
EMP is my bet.
I've done several tours at Osan and Kunsan, and "Black Cats" have a problem of their tails falling off during launch.
I've seen more than one pallet of "Black Cat" Kitty Litter.

EMP or after reentry, biological agents would definitely be my bet, special delivery to our Muzzl'em co-farts.
28 posted on 08/08/2012 4:00:46 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: Yosemitest
Is their an aerodynamic engineer in the house?

1. The vehicle in the e-bay ad is a more-or-less ground effect machine that probably doesn't work: the construction appears to be pretty good and those wing fences are their to control the flow of air over the wings but it is likely to be unstable in the roll axis anyway, if it has enough power to get off the ground at all. And no, it doesn't have a TBF canopy..

2. The "Air Force Saucer" in the photos has no powerplants and no visible control surfaces. Attractive but would not work, Keemo Sabe.

29 posted on 08/08/2012 4:02:09 AM PDT by Chainmail (Warfare is too serious to be left to the amateurs)
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To: airborne
The Church of Scientific Theology, yeah, I remember some young airmen that got screwed up with some of their celebrities and their teachings against marriage and eating meats.
They're sorta' messed up on drugs in that "Church".
30 posted on 08/08/2012 4:07:41 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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Now that we see them......

are they now IFAs?

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31 posted on 08/08/2012 4:11:05 AM PDT by devolve (-------------------- ------- "...maybe a little blow..." - Barack Hussein Obama Junior -------------)
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To: Yosemitest

That’s an Sabre isn’t it?


32 posted on 08/08/2012 4:21:13 AM PDT by Cheapskate (Play loud and carry BIG sticks!)
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To: Chainmail
I'm not an "aerodynamic engineer" but I've taken both aircraft aerodynamics, and aircraft performance courses, and have a B.S. in Aerodynamics, but my major is in Air Traffic Control.
There is some doubt about those flying photos, posted here.
Don't be in too much of a hurry to dismiss it.
33 posted on 08/08/2012 4:21:27 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: Cheapskate
The F-86 is a good aircraft of its day.
I was in the tower at Kunsan the day a SOF Major of the USAF got his "Check Ride," a High Speed Taxi from a ROK SOF.
After his High-Speed taxi was over, the ROK SOF stepped off the wing of the F-86 and the Major did a 180 and took off.
He landed about 55 minutes later and had a smile on his face that lasted over two weeks.

Check out The McConnell Story (1963).
You will enjoy Joseph C. McConnell and Beautious Butch.

34 posted on 08/08/2012 4:42:17 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: devolve

I think only one of the flew and the other was a hanger queen.


35 posted on 08/08/2012 4:44:19 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: devolve

I think only one of them flew and the other was a hanger queen.


36 posted on 08/08/2012 4:44:36 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: Chainmail
CORRECTION: LINK CORRECTED.
37 posted on 08/08/2012 4:57:48 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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“We called them the “Habu” at the base, locally.”

I’ll bet there are few here that know the origin of that moniker.

Ever run into a real Habu while at Okinawa? Fast, aggressive and deadly.


38 posted on 08/08/2012 5:39:31 AM PDT by panaxanax (Voting 'Third Party' will ensure a Communist-Marxist-Socialist dominated Supreme Court!)
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To: panaxanax; Gaffer; Yosemitest
Habu.org
39 posted on 08/08/2012 6:20:01 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: Yosemitest
UFO in Outer Banks NC
40 posted on 08/08/2012 6:30:45 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: Yosemitest
See? You proved my point...This stuff is all just the fabrication of people with excellent imaginations and above-average photoshop skills. The only real "saucers" were the AVRO saucer which was unstable and underpowered and the Grumann XF5U "Flying Flapjack" which never got past the taxiing stage.

The payoff with the alleged USAF "Saucer" is the outlandishly oversized fin and the lack of any evidence of power sources (Vanna, can you give me an intake?)...and I love those ridiculous multiwheel landing gear! Imagine the fun of designing those things to retract efficiently into that thin section wing..

41 posted on 08/08/2012 6:59:18 AM PDT by Chainmail (Warfare is too serious to be left to the amateurs)
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To: Yosemitest
Okay, you name that aircraft. Identify it, if you can.

F-86 Sabre.

42 posted on 08/08/2012 8:33:55 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: panaxanax

Yes, I have actually. There used to be fights between Habu and Mongoose.


43 posted on 08/08/2012 9:33:04 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

I spent 3 years on the island in the mid-60’s and I also saw the Habu vs. Mongoose battle it out. Poor Habu always lost.

One year at the Kadena Carnival the old Okinawan guy that was running the match got bitten and died right before our very eyes. Needless to say, my days of exploring the local caves came to an abrupt halt.

Thanks for the memories.


44 posted on 08/08/2012 10:29:26 AM PDT by panaxanax (Voting 'Third Party' will ensure a Communist-Marxist-Socialist dominated Supreme Court!)
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“We called them the “Habu” at the base, locally.”

I’ll bet there are few here that know the origin of that moniker.

I do. I was a pre-teen Army brat in the mid-sixties, and lived just south of Kadena for some years. I once caught a baby Habu and tried to pickle it in rubbing alcohol. You wouldn't believe the stink when I opened that jar a year later .. LOL

45 posted on 08/08/2012 11:56:55 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: panaxanax

Sounds like you and I were on Okinawa in the same time period. We were there from late ‘63 to late ‘66. I used to love watching the Habu versus mongoose cage matches. Never saw a handler get bit, though. That must have been horrifying.

I spent a lot of time exploring caves myself. Did you ever get into that limestone cave the Army tried to seal up (again and again)? I’m trying to remember the name of the area where it was located, but sheesh, that was 46 years ago.

I still have great memories of the place. Didn’t want to leave when we were called back stateside.


46 posted on 08/08/2012 12:04:38 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

I was there as a brat also at Kadena 59-62, I just sent an email to Panamax re: my extensive forays in the boonies exploring creeks, gullies, caves, revetments, etc. I was later stationed there as a buck sergeant in 69-71 but my exploring was confined mostly to the Koza strip outside gate 2 ;)


47 posted on 08/08/2012 12:19:49 PM PDT by Gaffer
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Well, pleased to meet you, fellow Oki.

My younger brother had the same experience as you did. He returned to Okinawa after joining the Marine Corps. I think he spent about two years there. He hated the place the second time around.

Me, I’ve got nothing but great childhood memories. Like you, I spent a lot of time exploring the caves, jungles, gorges, beaches, etc. It was a fantastic playground for a young boy.


48 posted on 08/08/2012 12:41:33 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: JimRed
The one for sale is NOT an F=86 Sabre.
49 posted on 08/08/2012 1:27:28 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: Windflier

I didn’t want to leave either. The best times a kid could ever dream of could be had on Okinawa. We also lived south of Kadena near the beach. Our “house” was nothing more than a flat-top concrete box with shudders that covered the windows during the Typhoons.

I would move back there in a minute and live as a native, but far too many grandkids and family here to relocate.

I think the cave you are thinking of was called Gokosenna or something like that? Like you said, it been a long time. I never got into that one. Guess it was huge and went on for miles underground.

We’d see the Habu when exploring and they weren’t afraid to chase you. You’re lucky you didn’t get bitten.

Thanks for allowing me to re-live the best part of my youth.


50 posted on 08/08/2012 1:41:42 PM PDT by panaxanax (Voting 'Third Party' will ensure a Communist-Marxist-Socialist dominated Supreme Court!)
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