There were TWO UFO crashes at Roswell, claims former Air Force official who says he was there

DailyMailOnline UK ^ | 6 August 2012 | Daily Mail Reporter

[LucyT]

Sixty-five years after a UFO allegedly crashed in Roswell, New Mexico, a retired Air Force official has spoken out to say that not only did the shocking incident really happen – but it happened twice. an unusual object fell from the sky and crashed to the ground in Roswell.

Military authorities issued a press release after the shocking incident, saying: ‘The many rumours regarding the flying disc became a reality yesterday when the intelligence officer of the 509th Bomb Group of the Eighth Air Force, Roswell Army Air Field, was fortunate enough to gain possession of a disc.’

But, just 24 hours later, the military retracted their earlier statement and claimed the object they had first thought was a 'flying disc' was a weather balloon that had crashed on a nearby ranch.

The media and the public accepted the explanation without question. Since then, conspiracy theorists and officials such as French have called into question the military's line on the incident.

‘There were actually two crashes at Roswell, which most people don't know,’..."

[Red Steel]

I don’t know if it is permanent.

[Bon mots]

Can't have a UFO thread without this gentleman...

Stanton Friedman said that there were two all along, and it was supposedly a new powerful radar being tested that brought down the little grey men.

[Flotsam_Jetsome]

Thanks for the Ping.

"But, just 24 hours later, the military retracted their earlier statement and claimed the object they had first thought was a 'flying disc' was a weather balloon that had crashed on a nearby ranch."

That's because the "UFO" debris found actually was the remnant of a crashed device called a "corner reflector" that was being used to detect, at long-range, Soviet nuclear blasts, and that project was probably secret enough to warrant intervention, story-wise on the part of the government.

I used to do electronics warfare for a living, and am quite confident the wreckage shown in this photo

is easily identified as most likely what's left of such a construct.

Here's a picture of one that's intact:

They are used to capture and focus faint radio signals into a stronger signal. In order to carry one aloft that was large enough to be very sensitive and yet light enough to be borne there by a weather balloon, it needed to be constructed out of light materials, like say aluminum foil or mylar hung on a balsam wood frame, which appears to be the very thing shown in the first photo.

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I read the thread where Quix got the Zot. Seemed pretty permanent to me at the time. I believe there was an Opus involved and everything.

[OwenKellogg]

I read the thread where Quix got the Zot. Seemed pretty permanent to me at the time. I believe there was an Opus involved and everything.

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Opus here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2902837/posts

[Shimmer1]

That perfectly states how I feel too. Thank you for writing it.

[Las Vegas Dave]

Pinging the unidentified aerial phenomena list (ufo) ..

May 8, 1950-This is one of the most famous UFO pictures ever taken.
Photographed by Paul Trent, and first witnessed by his wife.
They were published in a local newspaper in McMinnville, Oregon.
Shortly thereafter, the Trent photos were published in Life magazine edition of June 26, 1950.
The rest is history.
(NOTE: These photos have been deemed authentic for over 50 years.
The analysis of the McMinnville photos by Dr.Bruce Maccabee PhD, can be found at
http://brumac.8k.com/trent1.html )

Those interested in the uap/ufo ping list, please Freepmail
LasVegasDave (freepmail works best)
if you would like your name added to the list.
( Approximately 200+ freepers are currently on the ping list ).

[Flotsam_Jetsome]

Yep, that's the one. The "Quix's Latest Opus Installment" would seem at first blush to suggest the remote possibility of a return, but the fact that the thread was started by The Man Himself and referenced the FLeebagger site tells me

that well, let's just say it doesn't look good at all.

[The Working Man]

This idiot is delusional. Whatever else may be true there were NO particle beam or directed energy weapons in 1947.

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This is the same era, (WWII and post WWII), that the story of the “Philadelphia Experiment” came out of. I think it was the destroyer escort Eldrige (sp) was the vessel. In any case the government was spending a lot of money on “kooky” ideas, like the Atomic Bomb.

[Hardraade]

That’s only until you add the dilithium crystals.

[Sirius Lee]

You couldn’t fly through space without it.

I don't think the classic saucers fly through interstellar space. They're more like scout shuttles to and from the mother ships like the ginormous ones over Hudson Valley, Phoenix and Stephenville.

[airborne]

[rodguy911]

No no,swamp gas, now repeat after me everything all millions of sightings are all swamp gas. Then show the tin foil hat and make fun. Remember swamp gas. That’s all it is.We are the ultimate of all beings. There could never be anything out there beyond our intellect.....

[rodguy911]

Yeah you got it buddy. Its all swamp gas and 1952 at the capitol building in dc never happened.Last year at O Hair never happened,and all the other millions of sightings of ufos and uso’s, just more swamp gas.No sense upsetting everything we “know” to be true....

[Dr. Bogus Pachysandra]

“The weapon itself was very doable and was more than theory in the 40’s.”

Tesla?

[rodguy911]

Just ignore the writing on the other side of the paper Gen. Ramey is holding in his hand,its all swamp gas.

[BreezyDog]

I think Quix opussed out...

[BreezyDog]

Didn’t someone analyze the letter in his hand and retrieve some words?

[texas_mrs]

I will believe in ET when he lands in public view and makes contact with humans.

All my life I've had the same belief. Then the 'Stephenville lights" event occurred right where I live. I didn't see any of it, it was after dark and I was inside cooking supper, but I did hear the jets afterward. Still, that didn't convince me, only made me look up in the night sky whenever I was outdoors.
Then, the following February, my daughter and I were headed to Dublin from Stephenville. It was not yet dusk. We wouldn't have seen it if it hadn't happened right in the line of sight down the highway we were traveling. Lights just suddenly 'came on', all of them at the same instant, and whatever they were on would have to have been HUGE. Larger than several blocks, I would say, and a plane traveling in that area would have been a speck against it. We both saw it at the same time and said something like WHAT THE HECK IS THAT!? The lights stayed on several seconds, then blinked off. Stayed off maybe 5 seconds, then came on AGAIN. After a few seconds, they went off again and never re-appeared. It was obvious they were all on the same object, yet nothing could be seen, either while they were on OR off. From the first pulse, to the second, it was noticable that the thing was rotating clockwise and slightly downward and was circular. Still gives me chills. I hope it's ours.

I've had one other sighting since this, but it was totally different yet unexplainable and was also reported by others on MUFON besides myself.

[rodguy911]

Exactly,its how we learn most of what we know about the topic by chance happening. But don’t try and convince anyone here. They are waaay too invested in tin foil hats. Just let them wear them and keep telling them its swamp gas.

[rodguy911]

Don’t waste your time here. It was all swamp gas. No other entity exists in the entire universe that is superior to us.