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Never seen before WW II pics

Posted on 07/30/2012 5:46:33 PM PDT by Bikkuri

I have a friend from Holland (Netherlands).. he showed me (never seen before) pictures of his grandfather (that was an SS), BUT he is really reluctant to show them because he doesn't want a bad image on his family (name)..


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It's now the first time I have seen many of the pics from him... but the ones he has shown me tonight brought tears to my eyes because of the quality and crispness of the photos..

I am posting this so that he sees the seriousness of this website (and will see that we will NOT tarnish his family name).

I told him about the people here that respect history (like myself) and will not hold it against him, nor his family.

I honestly hope he DOES make an account here and post the pics... but, I did tell him to make digital back-ups ... and store the originals in a safe location, unknown to anyone... to make him feel safe... and also to protect the actual pictures.

I HAVE seen the picture.. and they are amazing!!! I just hope that he follows though and posts them. I was able to capture 1 of the pictures, but I will not post it because he asked me not to.

Nahi, please post them.. you will NOT be criticized here because of something that happened 70 years ago...

1 posted on 07/30/2012 5:46:35 PM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: Bikkuri

Please post Nahi . Heck - my father-in-law was in the Imperial Japanese Army in WW2 .


2 posted on 07/30/2012 5:48:34 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: Bikkuri

I’d love to see them.

He could have someone else post the photos for him if he wants to gauge reactions.


3 posted on 07/30/2012 5:48:41 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Bikkuri

Alas, we still haven’t seen them.


4 posted on 07/30/2012 5:48:53 PM PDT by occamrzr06
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To: sushiman

I’ve decided to hate the Norwegians just for the hell of it.

Bunch’a damn herring shuckers.

Guess I’m an antinorwegite


5 posted on 07/30/2012 5:51:00 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Bikkuri
I told him about the people here that respect history (like myself) and will not hold it against him, nor his family.

Correct. What you have mentioned is a concept called corruption of blood, and in America we don't believe in that. The sins of a family member do not reflect negatively upon another individual in that family.

It's a very important distinction between American culture and others, some of which do perpetuate such absurdities...

6 posted on 07/30/2012 5:51:41 PM PDT by sargon (I don't like the sound of these "boncentration bamps")
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To: Bikkuri

I second the emotion. Please post your pictures, Nahi


7 posted on 07/30/2012 5:51:41 PM PDT by No One Special
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To: cripplecreek

I hate people who hate other people.


8 posted on 07/30/2012 5:53:39 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2

Pee or get off the pot.

Where are the photos? or delete the thread.


9 posted on 07/30/2012 5:55:38 PM PDT by mountaineer1997
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To: UCANSEE2

So you’re an antiantimite?


10 posted on 07/30/2012 5:55:51 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Bikkuri

ok, he is intersted.. but he doesn’t know HTML :/


11 posted on 07/30/2012 5:56:40 PM PDT by Bikkuri (Choose, a communist, socialist, or Patriot)
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To: Bikkuri

My family claims roots back before the founding of this country. They were southerners and, yes, slave-owners. We have copies of the wills, passing the slaves & their progeny from one generation to the next. I don’t consider it a bad mark on myself. I never owned slaves. History is history & we should just acknowledge that which happened & hope that our generation won’t make worse mistakes.

I’d be very interested to see the pictures.


12 posted on 07/30/2012 5:57:06 PM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: Bikkuri
I am posting this so that he sees the seriousness of this website (and will see that we will NOT tarnish his family name).

This may not be true in your friend's home country where the family name may very well be tarnished.

My instincts say let him be.

13 posted on 07/30/2012 5:58:17 PM PDT by sonofagun (Some think my cynicism grows with age. I like to think of it as wisdom!)
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To: Bikkuri

I vote no. I hate coy people.


14 posted on 07/30/2012 6:00:31 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Bikkuri
I am posting this so that he sees the seriousness of this website (and will see that we will NOT tarnish his family name).

No problem. Unless he doesn't show us the pictures.

I told him about the people here that respect history (like myself) and will not hold it against him, nor his family.

No problem. Unless he doesn't show us the pictures.

Nahi, please post them..

I will even make it a request. Please show us, we would really enjoy seeing them.

you will NOT be criticized here because of something that happened 70 years ago...

Yeah... unless you don't show us the pictures.

15 posted on 07/30/2012 6:01:18 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2

If you have no interest in seeing the pictures, just say so.


16 posted on 07/30/2012 6:02:56 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Roger Taney? Not a bad Chief Justice. John Roberts? A really awful Chief Justice.)
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To: Bikkuri

Nahi, no shame at all to post the photos. Please do.


17 posted on 07/30/2012 6:04:22 PM PDT by Rebelbase (The most transparent administration ever is clear as mud.)
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To: Bikkuri

The crowd’s getting hostile Bik. I’ll see if I can entertain them while you get the pics.


18 posted on 07/30/2012 6:04:46 PM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: Bikkuri
Photobucket
19 posted on 07/30/2012 6:05:16 PM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: Bikkuri

This is lame.


20 posted on 07/30/2012 6:05:16 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors,,, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: Bikkuri

OH... since Nahi would be what we call a NEWBIE or NOOB (I like newbie better), It is highly unlikely he is familiar with how to upload the pictures to a website (like TINYPHOTO or ICANHASCHEEZBURGER.COM, or whatever) and then how to include them in a post.

I would say you are asking an awful lot to expect him to be able to quickly do so.

Maybe it would be better if you asked him to just read this thread, and YOU ask FREEPERS how and where to put the photos and how to include them in a post (and they will be happy to tell you) and he can just read it and see if he can do it.

Is Nahi even a registered member?


21 posted on 07/30/2012 6:06:21 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2

I hate people who despise other nationalities and the Dutch!


22 posted on 07/30/2012 6:07:30 PM PDT by occamrzr06
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To: Bikkuri; Homer_J_Simpson

PING!!

We have a forum called "WORLD WAR II PLUS 70 YEARS". There are lots if history buffs here who would ABSOLUTELY LOVE to see those photos.

Please visit Homer's homepage for a run down on the topics discussed.

23 posted on 07/30/2012 6:07:37 PM PDT by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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To: Bikkuri
ok, He will hate me for this...






This is the pic I was able to get before he wiped the chat page (he owns the chatsite)..
24 posted on 07/30/2012 6:07:44 PM PDT by Bikkuri (Choose, a communist, socialist, or Patriot)
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To: mountaineer1997
Where are the photos? or delete the thread.

Sorry, wrong number.

: )

25 posted on 07/30/2012 6:07:57 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: cripplecreek
So you’re an antiantimite?

No.... I'm just being adamant.


26 posted on 07/30/2012 6:14:46 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Bikkuri

So, um, he’s a troop.

A troop from 60 some years ago, but a troop.


27 posted on 07/30/2012 6:15:29 PM PDT by occamrzr06
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To: Bikkuri

I had a good friend who was in the Airborne during WWII. He jumped behind the lines on D Day and into Holland. He was trucked into the Bulge. Tough fine little guy.

He went back to the town in Holland where he was pinned down by German fire and the bullet marks were still in a concrete stock watering tank he hid behind.

The entire town turned out and gave a celebration for him when they found out about his past.

Doubt the Germans would have been received well there.


28 posted on 07/30/2012 6:15:39 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Bikkuri

First he has to upload the photos to a server.

Then he can worry about the HTML (which we can help him with).


29 posted on 07/30/2012 6:15:39 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: ClearCase_guy
If you have no interest in seeing the pictures, just say so.

I don't know whether you're not getting my sarcasm, or I'm not getting yours.

30 posted on 07/30/2012 6:18:01 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Bikkuri

Ok,, it’s been many years since I ‘registered’ ... he is trying to register an account (he is a bit tipsy atm)..

He is asking how to make an account..

and he is worried about his English..


31 posted on 07/30/2012 6:19:31 PM PDT by Bikkuri (Choose, a communist, socialist, or Patriot)
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The crowd’s getting hostile Bik.

We're not being hostile. We're trying to encourage him and offer help in getting the photos online, if that is what he wishes.

Now... what was this entertainment you spoke of ?

32 posted on 07/30/2012 6:20:29 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Bikkuri

It looks like he was in the Weirmacht, not the SS. Had a cousin who was drafted into the SS at 16 and shipped to the Eastern front. He made it back to Germany one step ahead of the Russians. Had another cousin that was in Rommals Afrika Corps. captured there, and spent most of the war in a POW camp in the US. So, you can tell your friend we all have our skeletons.


33 posted on 07/30/2012 6:21:30 PM PDT by gunner03
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To: sonofagun

Hell, my Dad was a democrat. I never held that against him.


34 posted on 07/30/2012 6:23:11 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just hate our government. All of them. Republican and Democrat.)
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To: Bikkuri; SevenofNine
and he is worried about his English..

Well... we Freepers are pretty flexible. We can deal with it.

I'm not sure which language SEVENofNINE is even trying to use, but I usually understand him/her. (No offense ole' pal)

35 posted on 07/30/2012 6:29:21 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Bikkuri
that is NOT an SS uniform...
36 posted on 07/30/2012 6:29:39 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Bikkuri

Sorry peeps... still trying to walk hm through how to get a registerd account here..

and I have NO idea how long after that how long it will take to get his messages ‘accepted’ before they are posted :p

Not sure if any admin are awake atm


37 posted on 07/30/2012 6:30:48 PM PDT by Bikkuri (Choose, a communist, socialist, or Patriot)
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To: Bikkuri

That’s not an SS uniform. It has no Totenkopf badge on the cap. He’s wearing a regular army uniform (Wehrmacht).


38 posted on 07/30/2012 6:33:14 PM PDT by Shadow44
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Ya.. I told him that, while we are waiting for him to get ‘acceptance’, that he can upload the pic to the chat site.. I will DL them and upload to tinypic and post them... be, he is still reluctant (and I personally know that he doesn’t know HTML well :/)
I will try to assist him


39 posted on 07/30/2012 6:36:58 PM PDT by Bikkuri (Choose, a communist, socialist, or Patriot)
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This is the pic I was able to get before he wiped the chat page

So...

He had reason to remove the photos from the website. Which would make them unavailable to post on FR.

Someone else suggested that he transfer them to you, and let you post them, so that this would 'isolate' him as the source of the photos.

Which sounds good, except you've kinda blown that cover all over this thread.

Good thing no one reads FR.

40 posted on 07/30/2012 6:40:10 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Bikkuri

OK... he says he is now registered... BUT, he only sees my original post, nothing else.. is this something to do with ‘new members’ now?
(BTW, he says his name here is dapi something or another)


41 posted on 07/30/2012 6:41:54 PM PDT by Bikkuri (Choose, a communist, socialist, or Patriot)
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To: UCANSEE2; ClearCase_guy
"If you have no interest in seeing the pictures, just say so."

"I don't know whether you're not getting my sarcasm, or I'm not getting yours."

Photobucket

LOL!

42 posted on 07/30/2012 6:44:26 PM PDT by IYellAtMyTV (Je t'aime, faire du bruit comme le cochon.)
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To: Shadow44

Ok, he is still trying to get into here.. but he says that THAT pic was early.. he was later ‘promoted..


43 posted on 07/30/2012 6:46:20 PM PDT by Bikkuri (Choose, a communist, socialist, or Patriot)
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To: UCANSEE2

Read the whole thread and I’m still confused.

How is the posting of this pic going to connect to some family today? I see nothing to identify the guy. From what I can see, post all the pics you want, and if you don’t say who they are of nobody will be able to tell.

Unless one of his old buddies logs on, and that ain’t particularly likely.

I’m no expert on the subject, but as others have pointed out, I doubt that’s an SS uniform.


44 posted on 07/30/2012 6:46:30 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Bikkuri

Future ref....etc


45 posted on 07/30/2012 6:48:12 PM PDT by JoeDetweiler
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To: Bikkuri
be, he is still reluctant (and I personally know that he doesn’t know HTML well :/)

Good luck, and don't worry. We're all dealing with the End of the World, and Global Warming, so time is of no importance in this case. The thread won't go away unless we let it, and those of us who are interested will check back once in a while and bump the thread.

We're all here and happy to help, should you run into any obstacles.

46 posted on 07/30/2012 6:49:29 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: sargon; Bikkuri

Spot on, Sargon. The sins of the father do not rest on the innocent son. And that presumes there were sins on this father, which is not a given.


47 posted on 07/30/2012 6:50:41 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Bikkuri
OK, apologies... he is getting frustrated.. (remember, Dutch is his native language).. He says that if you want to quesdtion him, to chat with him:

http://www.internationalchat.eu/rooms/

I personally know he is NOT trying to promote his site (he does own and pay for it.. no ads).. I've known him for about 3 years... I am on live with him now.. I will try to get some more pics... I know that the pics are excellent quality.. I am risking my own name here peeps..
48 posted on 07/30/2012 6:51:48 PM PDT by Bikkuri (Choose, a communist, socialist, or Patriot)
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To: Bikkuri

Looks more professional than the gold spray paint on the marching mumbling 0bot yoots uniforms


49 posted on 07/30/2012 6:52:43 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: Bikkuri

That fellow isn’t in the SS.


50 posted on 07/30/2012 6:54:04 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (I'm for Churchill in 1940!)
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