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Video shows Zimmerman's account of fatal fight
hostednews ^ | MIKE SCHNEIDER

Posted on 06/21/2012 3:24:15 PM PDT by JoeProBono

ORLANDO, Fla. — George Zimmerman appears believable when he re-enacts for police what he says led to the fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin, but some of his statements are questionable, lawyers who reviewed the footage said Thursday. Even a detective who interrogated the neighborhood watch leader pointed out inconsistencies in his story, particularly Zimmerman's claim that Martin punched him and slammed his head onto the ground when the teenager had no prior history of violence.

The video and audio tapes released by Zimmerman's attorney give Zimmerman's most detailed account yet of what led to the Feb. 26 shooting, but it still leaves unanswered whether the shooting was justified. The evidence was released almost a week before Zimmerman's second bond hearing on a second-degree murder charge, and on the heels of unflattering telephone calls capturing Zimmerman and his wife talking in code about using money collected for a defense fund to pay credit cards.

In one of the audio recordings, detective Chris Sereno asked Zimmerman whether he was profiling the black teen, a claim Martin's parents have made. "You know you are going to come under a lot of scrutiny for this," Sereno said. "Had this person been white, would you have felt the same way?" "Yes," said Zimmerman, who has a white father and Hispanic mother. Zimmerman claims he shot the unarmed 17-year-old Martin in self-defense, under Florida's "stand your ground" law.....

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1 posted on 06/21/2012 3:24:25 PM PDT by JoeProBono
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To: JoeProBono

Tray had no history of violence?? Apparently they haven’t see the street fighting videos. Not exactly little boys playing in a sandbox.


2 posted on 06/21/2012 3:27:46 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

Also, how’s Zimmerman supposed to know what Trayvon’s “history” was? He never met him before and didn’t know him from Adam. Sounds like TM started establishing his “history” upside Z’s head on the night in question.


3 posted on 06/21/2012 3:30:28 PM PDT by Argus
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To: Argus

I don’t care what someone’s history is when they are currently, punching me to the ground, sitting on top of me, slaming my head on cement and looking at my gun while telling me I am going to die. Unless I am doing suicide by hoodie, I am going to shoot the idiot before he does me in. I don’t care his color or age, either.


4 posted on 06/21/2012 3:37:22 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: JoeProBono

hope Zimmerman did this reenactment in the presence of his attorney.Because he should have shut his damned mouth otherwise.

The P.D. in that community already proved it could not be impartial and the States Attorney was definetly biased against him.So he had nothing to gain and a lot to lose.

He better hope this reenactment doesn’t come back and bite him in the rearend.


5 posted on 06/21/2012 3:38:04 PM PDT by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: JoeProBono

It is obvious Zimmerman is innocent of all charges

And it is time for Gov Rick Scott and AG Pam Bondi to pull the plug on this case. If they do not...I will work to have them primaried out in 2014...or recalled sooner.

I would not put up with such Black Racist pandering from a Democrat...and surely will not put up with it from GOP.


6 posted on 06/21/2012 3:40:18 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Obama really was not born in Kenya...he was born in Greece. Look at the economy)
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To: JoeProBono
Even adetective who interrogated the neighborhood watch leader pointed out inconsistencies in his story, particularly Zimmerman's claim that Martin punched him and slammed his head onto the ground when the teenager had no prior history of violence.

What the hell is inconsistent about that?

7 posted on 06/21/2012 3:46:05 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: SeminoleCounty

Gov. Rick Scott


8 posted on 06/21/2012 3:52:57 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: JoeProBono
George Zimmerman is a political prisoner.

We're going to have to start assuming from here on out that Enemies of the State are going to be smeared in put-up jobs by the Fascist State Media, while true criminals like Eric Holder are defended to the last ditch by a media rearguard screaming "Raciss! Raciss!!" as they fall inexorably before the facts.

Angela Corey should be arrested for conspiracy, and Zimmerman freed this very day.

9 posted on 06/21/2012 3:54:41 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: JoeProBono

One thing is for sure watching this: George is NOT lying.

This is a straight up honest account given when he was sure that there were not going to be any charges.

Anyone who can watch this and have doubts or still think he is guilty (there are a few even here on FR) is brain dead.


10 posted on 06/21/2012 3:56:25 PM PDT by Waywardson (If you fear Obama..... vote for Romney. If you fear God... DON'T !)
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To: JoeProBono
Even a detective ... particularly Zimmerman's claim that Martin punched him and slammed his head onto the ground when the teenager had no prior history of violence.

LIE. He was recently expelled from school in part for punching out a bus driver.

11 posted on 06/21/2012 4:07:27 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: JoeProBono

“Zimmerman claims he shot the unarmed 17-year-old Martin in self-defense, under Florida’s ‘stand your ground’ law.”

Journalistic malpractice. If Martin had been pounding his head into the ground and looming over him then it is regular self-defense, not Stand Your Ground.


12 posted on 06/21/2012 4:15:21 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Argus
Also, how’s Zimmerman supposed to know what Trayvon’s “history” was?

If he was a good citizen he would have asked Martin (between bounces of his head on the sidewalk) if he had any history violence. Prior to that night, I mean.

13 posted on 06/21/2012 4:15:53 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Argus

“Even a detective who interrogated the neighborhood watch leader pointed out inconsistencies in his story, particularly Zimmerman’s claim that Martin punched him and slammed his head onto the ground when the teenager had no prior history of violence.”

This is supremely idiotic. That is not an “inconsistency.” It may make Zimmerman’s story more likely to be believe had Martin an arm’s-length rap sheet. But all he has to answer is “Hey, I didn’t ask him for his criminal history when he was bashing my head.”

What journalism school dropout wrote this dreck?


14 posted on 06/21/2012 4:19:02 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: JoeProBono
profiling the black teen, a claim Martin's parents have made.

You do use profiling every day. When you are hiring a person, do you want someone that looks like a bum, or a neatly dressed person?

15 posted on 06/21/2012 4:21:31 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (If we stay home in November '12, don't blame 0 for tearing up the CONSTITUTION!!)
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To: Ken H

Well Trayvon was a member of an illegal mixed martial arts fight club, and his videos are now all over the internet.

The claim of “no history of violence” is damned well contradicted by internet video.

The first rule of fight club is “Don’t talk about fight club.” posting video of your bouts is even more stupid.


16 posted on 06/21/2012 4:38:19 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: JoeProBono
Even a detective who interrogated the neighborhood watch leader pointed out inconsistencies in his story, particularly Zimmerman's claim that Martin punched him and slammed his head onto the ground when the teenager had no prior history of violence.

Is this detective so stupid to think that all fights and acts of violence make it into the history books at the local precinct. Unless GZ's injuries were self-administered, they came at the hands of someone who has a certain history of fighting with his fists.

17 posted on 06/21/2012 4:58:03 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Not to mention that at some point in their lives all known perpetrators of acts of violence commit one act of violence without having a prior history of violence. Doesn’t that cop know that?


18 posted on 06/21/2012 5:00:59 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: MrEdd
Well Trayvon was a member of an illegal mixed martial arts fight club, and his videos are now all over the internet.

I've never seen this. Do you have a link???

19 posted on 06/21/2012 5:26:42 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: JoeProBono
In one of the audio recordings, detective Chris Sereno asked Zimmerman whether he was profiling the black teen, a claim Martin's parents have made.

Trayvon profiled himself when he attacked Zimmerman. Actually his parents profiled him when they named him "Trayvon".

20 posted on 06/21/2012 5:32:24 PM PDT by Hacksaw (If I had a son, he'd look like George Zimmerman.)
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To: Tublecane

I’ve seen many Zimmerman haters claiming Stand Your Ground as the justification for Martin’s actions.


21 posted on 06/21/2012 5:34:50 PM PDT by kanawa
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To: kanawa

“I’ve seen many Zimmerman haters claiming Stand Your Ground as the justification for Martin’s actions.”

That seems to be the prosecution’s case, as well. Neither they nor the legions of confused internet posters have any evidence whatsoever that Zimmerman started the fight. And, no, “profiling,” following, talking to him, and getting out of your truck do not count as starting a fight.


22 posted on 06/21/2012 5:42:57 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: JoeProBono
He asked Zimmerman to explain why he doesn't have bruises on his body or broken ribs. The two dozen punches Zimmerman claims he took are "not quiet consistent with your injuries," Sereno said.

Hey Sereno, the blows were to the head, not the body. When you pummel somebody's face, you don't break ribs. You break noses and blacken eyes. He probably also had a concussion and didn't know it. The only thing inconsistent here are your stupid questions and that detective badge you're wearing.

23 posted on 06/21/2012 5:48:59 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: kanawa
I’ve seen many Zimmerman haters claiming Stand Your Ground as the justification for Martin’s actions.

The problem with that is that this was Zimmerman's ground not Martin's. Zimmerman lived there. Martin was a visitor, stranger, outsider coming into somebody else's living complex. As such he should tread more lightly. He didn't know anybody there and yet he acted like he owned the place.

24 posted on 06/21/2012 5:56:36 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: JoeProBono

Oh come on. This kid was in a street fight club. He was primed and ready to take on a guy half his size. He figured he would eff up Zimmerman with no probems til Zimmerman pulled his weapon and defended himself.


25 posted on 06/21/2012 6:08:41 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: JoeProBono

Oh come on. This kid was in a street fight club. He was primed and ready to take on a guy half his size. He figured he would eff up Zimmerman with no probems til Zimmerman pulled his weapon and defended himself.


26 posted on 06/21/2012 6:08:41 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: JoeProBono

Oh come on. This kid was in a street fight club. He was primed and ready to take on a guy half his size. He figured he would eff up Zimmerman with no probems til Zimmerman pulled his weapon and defended himself.


27 posted on 06/21/2012 6:08:41 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: JoeProBono

Oh come on. This kid was in a street fight club. He was primed and ready to take on a guy half his size. He figured he would eff up Zimmerman with no probems til Zimmerman pulled his weapon and defended himself.


28 posted on 06/21/2012 6:08:52 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: JoeProBono
Full re-enactment...

Part One

Part Two

29 posted on 06/21/2012 6:17:00 PM PDT by kanawa
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To: MrEdd
Agreed, but the newspaper is saying that Zimmerman's claim of getting his head bashed is an inconsistency because Martin had no prior history of violence.

That's simply a non-sequitur - whether Martin had such a history or not.

30 posted on 06/21/2012 6:44:49 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: kanawa


31 posted on 06/21/2012 7:35:24 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: Texas Fossil
LIE. He was recently expelled from school in part for punching out a bus driver.

Unless you have proof of the statement, yes it is.

32 posted on 06/21/2012 8:07:11 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the blind obedience of fools - Solon, Lawmaker of Athens)
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To: Oztrich Boy

Proof? No

Evidence? Possibly

Looks at Twitter post to Trayvon’s twitter account:

http://www.wagist.com/2012/dan-linehan/was-trayvon-martin-a-drug-dealer


33 posted on 06/22/2012 5:06:45 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Uncle Chip

Here is a story that pulls several of Trayvon’s video clips together.

http://rogersparkbench.blogspot.com/2012/05/watch-trayvon-martin-fight-club-video.html


34 posted on 06/22/2012 9:53:16 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Texas Fossil; Oztrich Boy
There is evidence on that twitter account that he did swing at a bus driver. It makes sense since he was suspended specifically for being in an area that was off limits to him.

Where could that have been??? classroom? office? gymnasium? closet? There are few if any areas in a school that fit this description of being off-limit to students but still accessible to them, and especially fitting an infraction worthy of a ten day suspension.

But when you are trying to get on a bus without paying or permission from the bus driver, and when refused access, subsequently swing at him for telling you to get off, then that bus fits the description for his suspension.

The Trayvon family could set this issue and others to rest by unsealing his school records, but they won't because they have things about Trayvon that they want to hide.

35 posted on 06/22/2012 10:26:25 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Agreed.


36 posted on 06/22/2012 10:29:59 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: MrEdd

Another enlightening moment. Thanks for posting. I wonder if detective Serino has seen what his “mild-mannered” Trayvon was doing during recess at school???

I think this could explain why in most of his older pictures, Trayvon doesn’t smile or does so with his mouth closed. In his younger pictures he had a great smile and his teeth looked perfect. But he may have taken enough hits to the mouth while club fighting that he had broken teeth and had to have dental work done, as is seen in some of his older pictures, like this “undated” one on wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin


37 posted on 06/22/2012 10:52:19 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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