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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
Here is a link to 72 minutes of a presentation Habermas made fairly recently regarding many of the hundreds of cases he and his associates have collected: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skGf_vsthl8
42 posted on 06/05/2012 8:20:05 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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During the first few minutes of Gary's presentation, he explains the different levels of ‘death and dying’ and why the more final the death appears (no brain waves, no heartbeat, for several minutes and possibly even hours) the more stunning is the NDE and testimony of the recipient.

There are, to be sure, testimonies from persons who experience an 'out of body' phenomenon, which are fascinating stories and many times include evidentiary data. But the more 'dead' a person is, medically, and yet they recover and relate experiences while in that 'deadness' are the real clues to a brain/soul-spirit connection.

43 posted on 06/05/2012 8:27:23 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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Can’t wait to check it out! Thank you


46 posted on 06/05/2012 8:56:35 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: MHGinTN

Just finished listening. Amazing evidence. Thanks again.


47 posted on 06/05/2012 11:10:14 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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