Posted on 06/02/2012 7:16:29 PM PDT by ak267
As the landmark Supreme Court decision looms next month, Republicans have been privately considering a plan to reinstate some popular provisions of “Obamacare” if it’s struck down.
The revelation sent conservative advocates — who have demanded nothing less than total repeal — into a tizzy, which forced House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) to reaffirm his commitment to “repealing Obamacare in its entirety,” declaring that “[a]nything short of that is unacceptable.”
But more evidence is emerging that Republicans believe that’s not tenable.
Rep. Allen West (R-FL), a tea party darling, told ThinkProgress that he supports preserving three popular provisions of the Affordable Care Act — the same three that his party’s leaders are reportedly considering.
“You’ve got to replace it with something,” West said. “If people want to keep their kid on insurance at 26, fine. We’ve got to make sure no American gets turned back for pre-existing conditions, that’s fine. Keep the doughnut hole closed, that’s fine. But what I just talked to you about — maybe 20, 25 pages of legislation.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cZhj2mU_tfE
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He’s dead to me. Period.
good grief more bs from some TPM and some lefty who worked for the guardian and huffington commie post .
why do you fall for this carefully cooked up Press releases from Obama lefties ??
read the source of this bs .
a left wing websitev and a leftist Brit from the huffington post !
the tpm post is pure Dem crap meant to screw West !
did you see the youtube clip...from his own words.
you get rid of Obamacare...all of it! You don’t “pick and choose” for it will only regenerate over time.
Nothing less than a full repeal of “Obamacare”, and the T.Kennedy influence of government legislated out of our medical system is acceptable to me.
We have to get the Nanny out of Government. Make it too small for Nanny to move in, and take over bossing everybody about.
What do you expect when the father of Obama care is at the top of the ticket? Take one for the team!
The whole party is dead to me.
its smallls like a Dem media video hit job . so why are you posting edited video crap here ?
TPM is left wing website !
The “Donut Hole” is useful, it FORCES people to care about the cost of the drugs they are taking, consider generics, consider other drugs as a replacement, etc.
It is a really dumb idea to get rid of the “donut hole” as Part D is the ONLY government program, in history, to come in below budget projections.
The Donut Hole has a great deal to do with that fact.
The “Donut Hole” is useful, it FORCES people to care about the cost of the drugs they are taking, consider generics, consider other drugs as a replacement, etc.
It is a really dumb idea to get rid of the “donut hole” as Part D is the ONLY government program, in history, to come in below budget projections.
The Donut Hole has a great deal to do with that fact.
The “Donut Hole” is useful, it FORCES people to care about the cost of the drugs they are taking, consider generics, consider other drugs as a replacement, etc.
It is a really dumb idea to get rid of the “donut hole” as Part D is the ONLY government program, in history, to come in below budget projections.
The Donut Hole has a great deal to do with that fact.
This probably is phoney, but I do believe that Obamacare, if it survives the Supreme Court, won’t be repealed even if the Republican Parry takes control of the House and Senate and Romney somehow becomes President. There are too many liberals and socialists in both parties.
Where was it edited? Did they alter his voice? Alter his words? Where? He said what he said to the reporter.
Simply put, it won’t work. If they have kids insured to 26, close the donut hole, waive pre-existing conditions AND LET THE MARKET DICTATE THE PRICE, then there will be a “victim-induced” scream fest (usual suspects) when they see the bill. And the “parade of victims” will be a cinematic production.
The Republicans will then be in a jam to find way to “fund” the areas they let survive.
Either West was talking too fast for his head, pandering to his senior citizen voting base or this was a trial balloon by the chicken-shit GOP leadership. One person says one thing while leadership says another. The optics don’t look good.
Either way, if the bill is struck down or gutted, the GOP will need a plan for the inevitable battle by the DEMS who will scream for something to replace it. The GOP wants reforms and “market place” solutions...then what is it? They need to get in front of this.
Norm’s back on the plantation ready to kiss Massa’ Mitt’s butt.
I did not know that Mr. West is a socialist appeaser. I hope someone can find evidence that this story is false.
Last year, my kidney doctor put me on Procrit, a specialty drug. I reached the coverage gap in July. The drug subsequently cost me $300 a month till the end of the year. There is no generic equivalent, and Canadian pharmacies don't sell it. So I had to pay the full price. $1500 is a lot of money when you're on a fixed income. And I've heard of even worse scenarios for life saving drugs such as those for cancer.
Fortunately, I no longer take Procrit. Turned out it wasn't helping at all. I told the doctor I'm not taking a costly drug if it isn't working. But I'm lucky to have the option of discontinuing the med. For some patients that is not an option.
You gotta remember that the Pubbies are just right-wing Leftists.
Repeal the whole thing. Not one shred should survive.
People should buy the insurance they desire at the price the market provides. Remember, it is “Insurance”, not “medical care”; two very different things.
Insurance is paid protection against monetary loss. Medical care is what you actually receive. I should be able to buy the insurance I want, to cover those I choose, in a manner I want at a price the FREE MARKET DETERMINES.
If I can’t afford something, I can’t buy it. It should not be given to me “free” (paid by someone else). If I “need” something to live but can’t afford it, charity may help but I CANNOT DEMAND it for free. Life is tough. Can’t afford your meds, too bad.
Why do so many think that they should get something they can’t pay for? The brilliant Dr Walter Williams had an article prescribing this sickness of forced labor. When you demand it for free you are stealing the labor of your neighbor.
Yep.
He was full of possibilities and genuine hope. It sure didn't take long for this loser to get infected by DC.
Oh well.
” - - - “You’ve got to replace it with something,” West said.”
WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
REPEAL AN ABOLISH FOREVER ALL OF OBAMA”CARE” !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stand with us on this, Allen West, or you stand without us.
However the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Obama Care) is nothing more than the cure being systemically worse than the symptom.
Congress expressed its dereliction of duty and responsibility when Pelosi admitted that the bill had not even been read in its entirety.
If the Supreme Court finds one or more parts unconstitutional, keeping any part(s) of the bill is untenable! To say otherwise is indefensible.
I don’t support any of it. If any of it is left in; it will be like a cancer spreading.
Why? None of the things he said had anything to do with us being forced to take government-controlled health care...
“If people want to keep their kid on insurance at 26, fine. We’ve got to make sure no American gets turned back for pre-existing conditions, that’s fine. Keep the doughnut hole closed, that’s fine. But what I just talked to you about — maybe 20, 25 pages of legislation.”
Donut hole good and works - nothing wrong with making folks aware of generic drugs, especially if they're on the tax-payers dollar.
The phrase was 'if folks want to keep their kids on insurance at 26, who cares" (or similar) - nothing about government paying for it.
Waiving preexisting conditions is a contentious item - if you or yours had some conditions that prevented your ability to obtain insurance, and couldn't afford to pay out of pocket for everything, would you just want to let yourself and/or yours roll over and die?
One saves money, one is a personal parental choice, and the other needs to be addressed as a form of "death panel" which is something you would agree is really bad about Obama-Care.
And the RINO Renaissance shifts leftward... I have no confidence that this monstrosity will be repealed, even if the Republicans take Congress and the Presidency.
The real problem is the laws that make “socialized medicine” and mandatory insurance the remedy. For example, hospitals being legally obligated to treat some patients who cannot pay.
Next? You have proven my point!
If the drug involved had cost you NOTHING? You would probably still be taking that drug!
I do not think you understand the issue.
I KNOW you do not understand my post and my point.
Part D was a much better program, on balance, the way George Bush designed it.
Eliminating the “Donut Hole” is a Democrat idea, a very bad idea.
trebb, you can spin this all you want, but keeping something from Obamacare is just leaving the door open for it to come back bit by bit. Med D already has a footprint obligation of one-trillion and it won’t get any smaller. Gov’t grows yet again.
Kids covered to age 26? It’s none of the government’s DAMN business dictating age. That can be negotiated by the customers and the insurance company. By having the gov’t dictating terms, it only acts as a first step to dictating other edicts. We’ve got enough of those already.
Pre-existing conditions should be market priced or have special pools admined by the states but Obamacare threw the baby out of with the bathwater on that front. By having pre-existing patients on the rolls, it skews the concept of an insurance pool. If you have PE’s entering the market, it will be a drain on private insurance system without properly pricing the the product. Leave the solutions up to the states, the insured, and the companies to decide. Keep the Feds out of it. Again, another doorway for the Fed to insert themselves.
So trebb, don’t try to sweet talk it and realize that keeping something out of Obamacare is just begging for future congresses to use as an excuse to grow it yet again. One only need to see the bastard case known as Romneycare (which now needs stimulus money to keep afloat).
I did go to the act and search what you were writing about. But admittedly as a lay person, no I don't understand the nuances of the prescription coverage. All I read is more "subsidies" in almost every part of the act
The way I understood your writing, was that which you were expressing was in the new act.
Again my bad, my apologies, Thank you for clarifying.
No problem.
I appreciate your honesty and your concern.
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