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Is there any hope left? (Vanity)
June 1, 2012 | mind freed

Posted on 06/01/2012 10:28:09 AM PDT by Mind Freed

I'm getting closer and closer to believing that we are now just waiting for God to end the world. More and more I find myself HOPING that God will come soon to end all of this. Having two sons makes it even harder because how could I want the end of the world when I have two beautiful sons who I want to watch grow? How can I have two sons grow in this society is also an alarming cause for scare. Our government is making decisions on when it's okay to kill a baby, our president is giving praise to a dictator, for God's sake The Green Lantern is now gay, there's been two cases of one man eating another man in the same week, we have children being raised in homosexual households, marriage is no longer a holy communion. I'm at the point where I don't see a return; our society has lost all moral value. I think this has gone way past who our president is. This has reached a point of losing God in our country. Getting rid of Obama (which would be a HUGE step) will not fix all of the country's problems. We need a spiritual revolution. I don't want to give up on our country, and as God fearing man, I can not give up on our country. Is there any hope left? Yes, but it all rests in God's hands.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: disgust; hope; morality; society

1 posted on 06/01/2012 10:28:24 AM PDT by Mind Freed
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To: Mind Freed

The Lord helps those who help themselves. Your attitude implies helplessness, like a child waiting for his mommy to come and rescue him. This isn’t the first time that the world has been set on fire. Just be ready to do your duty when the time comes. Actually, the time is pretty much now.


2 posted on 06/01/2012 10:32:48 AM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Mind Freed

I’d say that compared to being a Ukranian peasant in 1933, a Polish Jew in 1940, or a Carthaginian in 146 BC things are still pretty spiffy.


3 posted on 06/01/2012 10:33:47 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Mind Freed
I'm getting closer and closer to believing that we are now just waiting for God to end the world. More and more I find myself HOPING that God will come soon to end all of this.

Sorry, we don't get to abdicate our responsibility that easily. Quit waiting for God to end it, start acting to fix it. That is our job.

4 posted on 06/01/2012 10:34:40 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Mind Freed

It also rests with Christ within you. Be like the servant who turned one talent into five and make a difference one person at a time.


5 posted on 06/01/2012 10:35:11 AM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: Mind Freed

The only way to change this country is to get involved. Join a local Tea Party group. Find like minded folks at your church. Go to your local PTA meetings. Go to rally’s. Speak your mind. Never give in and don’t give up.


6 posted on 06/01/2012 10:37:23 AM PDT by HOYA97 (twitter @hoya97)
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To: Mind Freed

I think he speaks for many, if not all of us.


7 posted on 06/01/2012 10:38:02 AM PDT by RoadTest (There is one god, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.)
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To: Mind Freed

Bad news, but the end times are going to be a lot worse than what we’re experiencing now.

Maybe it’s time to turn the news off for a while, get around positive people and go talk to your Pastor (or other)

You’d be amazed how your attitude changes when you check out of the news and talk radio for a week or two.


8 posted on 06/01/2012 10:38:08 AM PDT by No Socialist
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To: Tijeras_Slim
I’d say that compared to being a Ukranian peasant in 1933, a Polish Jew in 1940, or a Carthaginian in 146 BC things are still pretty spiffy.

Pretty much take any group from any time in history, and our worst complaints seem pretty spiffy compared to what they dealt with. I am under then belief that people are getting weaker and weaker.

9 posted on 06/01/2012 10:38:23 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: No Socialist

Good comments. I agree.


10 posted on 06/01/2012 10:39:21 AM PDT by RoadTest (There is one god, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.)
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To: fr_freak
“The Lord helps those who help themselves. “

That is not a Biblical based quote by the way.

11 posted on 06/01/2012 10:40:30 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (We are the 53%. 47% of Americans pay no taxes; end the free ride...)
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12 posted on 06/01/2012 10:40:51 AM PDT by evets (beer)
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To: Mind Freed

Reject Obama! Reject Romney! Reject all evil!

And, trust God.


13 posted on 06/01/2012 10:41:12 AM PDT by Tau Food (Tom Hoefling for President - 2012)
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To: mnehring

True, but on the other hand, none of the groups I mentioned had to put up with the Kardashians either.


14 posted on 06/01/2012 10:41:24 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Mind Freed

You need to snap out of it, NOW. Call your clergyman and discuss this with him, or call a healthcare worker and discuss it with him. But you are thinking very black thoughts and they may have consequences in your personal life.


15 posted on 06/01/2012 10:42:03 AM PDT by Piranha (If you seek perfection you will end up with Democrats.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

http://rovemonteux.net/2010/02/08/the-horrors-of-roman-brutality/

Citizen of Constantinople in 1453.

Things on this earth are grim. They have always been grim.

But no Black Plague, no marauding armies raping children. So not too terrible here and now.

But keep your guns and anti biotics handy tomorrow may be worse.


16 posted on 06/01/2012 10:42:20 AM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: mnehring

I think there are many who feel as you do, the world is not home. sure we can try to bring our faith into everyday life but the reality of man is falling, we cannot concrete the earth and make things better, we cannot just get along without being brutally oppressed, and all other forms of government are corrupt more than our own..

While I agree with do all you can I do think prayer and an eye out for the fruits of the spirit can bring changes the world has never experienced except at the time of Christ..

we need God, man has failed..


17 posted on 06/01/2012 10:42:31 AM PDT by aces
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Or the infestation of Jersey across the country including the dreaded Snooki.


18 posted on 06/01/2012 10:42:42 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Mind Freed

I will lift up mine eyes unto the hills, from whence cometh my help.

My help cometh from the Lord, which made heaven and earth.


19 posted on 06/01/2012 10:43:16 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: mnehring

Yup, we are spoiled. Previous generations would say “my God, I will take your troubles over mine any time, you spoiled rotten wimps!”


20 posted on 06/01/2012 10:45:22 AM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: Mind Freed

Maybe I should have worded this differently instead of going with my first instincts. I wrote this after reading news stories and listening to the news. It hurts to see how perverted our society has become. In the bible Daniel said that we should have a heart for God. Part of that is being hurt by all the things that would hurt God. I don’t think we have it worse than others have had it and I’m not giving up. I just want this country to turn back to God. It’s important who we have as President, I would never argue that. I’m just saying that without God being part of it, we’re going to go farther down the hole. I do pray and I do get involved. I’m just praying that more will start.


21 posted on 06/01/2012 10:45:34 AM PDT by Mind Freed (Maybe Obama was the Wright choice... Let's wait till everything Ayers out.)
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To: DariusBane

First case of Boubonic Plague of 2012....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2890060/posts

About 5 miles from me. No marauding armies, just the occasional drunk driver.


22 posted on 06/01/2012 10:46:21 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: ArrogantBustard

You can rest with assurance that your help may or may not come here in this life or this earth.

That is why the martyrs cry for justice.


23 posted on 06/01/2012 10:46:54 AM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: Piranha

I don’t think Christ was all rosey and happy about his time in this fallen realm either..Hating evil is a good thing..Man don’t know a thing..we need God to solve our issues..clergy, a suit and tie or any other substitute just doesn’t cut it.

But that does not mean we should not keep striving to better ourselves physically and spiritually..

I consider the downtrodden to have a better perspective of how bad this hell hole is..this is not life, this is mankind creating and waking up enough to say Daddy?


24 posted on 06/01/2012 10:47:33 AM PDT by aces
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To: Piranha

I posted a comment saying that I have should have worded this differently. I’m not suicidal; I’m just upset at all the things that are happening. I’m not giving up at all.


25 posted on 06/01/2012 10:48:00 AM PDT by Mind Freed (Maybe Obama was the Wright choice... Let's wait till everything Ayers out.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

LOL, and your drunk driver is probably a cop or a judge!


26 posted on 06/01/2012 10:48:16 AM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: Mind Freed

There’s always hope for personal salvation which is all that really matters to God. There is no collective salvation.

Look at Lot, God offered to save Lot and his family but only if they did as they were told. His wife looked back and she alone was destroyed.


27 posted on 06/01/2012 10:49:26 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: DariusBane

Of course!


28 posted on 06/01/2012 10:50:48 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: HerrBlucher

This isn’t a joke, but I actually see people think that if their internet service or favorite website goes down for a few minutes, they start screaming they are being persecuted.


29 posted on 06/01/2012 10:51:01 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: HereInTheHeartland
“The Lord helps those who help themselves. “

That is not a Biblical based quote by the way.


OK, but it is certainly a reasonable conclusion one may reach from reading the Bible. It also has been an idea that has driven much of the success and independence of the American people over the last couple of centuries.
30 posted on 06/01/2012 10:51:45 AM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Mind Freed

I could probably find, oh, about 3 or 4 billion people who would like to trade their troubles for yours. Shall I start making some calls?


31 posted on 06/01/2012 10:52:21 AM PDT by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: Mind Freed

Oh, just grow a pair, will ya...


32 posted on 06/01/2012 10:55:33 AM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: Mind Freed

Life stinks.

Make the best of it.


33 posted on 06/01/2012 10:56:17 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DariusBane
I trust that my help will come when and where The Lord deems it appropriate ... That's His problem.

My problem? Choose ye this day ...

As for me and my house, we will serve The Lord.

Viva Cristo Rey!

34 posted on 06/01/2012 10:56:57 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Nicely said!


35 posted on 06/01/2012 10:58:25 AM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: Mind Freed
1st world problems. Who gives 2 turds about what gays do or what happens in comic books or movies. Don't watch it. Unsubscribe from cable and stop going to the movie theater. I am not a Christian so I have no input on the whole end times prophecy. But .. it seems to me that if there is a God of the Christian persuasion, sitting up in heaven looking down at a guy in the richest country in the history of the world, he might get a little offended by that guy's request for Him to end it all.

Since you seem to be greatly offended by sodomy, here's an idea. Everyday some poor bastard who somehow got on the wrong side of the law is getting raped in prison. Again, I am not a Christian, but I highly doubt Jesus would approve of that type of punishment for minor crimes like possession of marijuana. Why don't you become some kind of advocate against cruel and unusual punishment.

Don't give a rats ass about people who got on the wrong side of the law regardless of circumstance? Well, I can understand that sentiment, so find something else to do. Sitting around waiting for the end times in a country that has unprecedented wealth seems absolutely ridiculous to me. The historic norm is starvation, regular bouts of disease, and state sponsored murder, rape and slavery.

36 posted on 06/01/2012 10:59:17 AM PDT by douginthearmy (Obamagebra: 1 job + 1 hope + 1 change = 0 jobs + 0 hope)
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To: Mind Freed

I think a lot of you who replied missed the point of what I was trying to say. But oh well, I’m not a butt-hurt liberal who has my feelings hurt very easily and believe that all are more then entitled to your opinions. With that being said. I hope you all have a great weekend.


37 posted on 06/01/2012 11:01:21 AM PDT by Mind Freed (Maybe Obama was the Wright choice... Let's wait till everything Ayers out.)
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To: douginthearmy

See, we need a “like” button.

You may be a heathen but you speak some hard truths that need saying.


38 posted on 06/01/2012 11:03:24 AM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

“I’d say that compared to being a Ukranian peasant in 1933, a Polish Jew in 1940, or a Carthaginian in 146 BC things are still pretty spiffy”

Or 90% of the rest of the world today.


39 posted on 06/01/2012 11:17:05 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: Mind Freed

Oh, come man up.
If your hope rest in what others do, you are in sad shape.
You have it good.
You are NOT watching your children starve to death because some war lord refuse to distribute food.
You are not watching your children go blind because some despite thinks the simple eye drops are a capitalist plot.
You are not watching your children be crippled by polio because some religious fanatic says its Christians to disable their future warriors.
You are not having your wife dragged out into the street and commanded to denounce Christ or she dies, you refuse and a bullet is put in her brain.
You are not living in the age of plague, where 80% of the European population died.
You are not writing your whining post from a nazi death camp.

Instead of focusing on yourself, crying in self pity. Take a shower, man up and do something. Make changes in your family, on your street, in your city, in your county, in your state, then the nation.
Most of all change your heart and mind set.


40 posted on 06/01/2012 11:20:36 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Mind Freed
We really don't know if this is the time the prophets have written about. But if it is, it also means the beginning of a new age. We have to get through this period of tribulation. So prepare as best you can; enjoy every day with those you care about. Life has always been fragile, short, and precious.

We may yet wise up and follow what God told us to do in 2 Chronicles 7:14, "if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land."

If not, stand firm, keep the faith. There are things worse than mortal death...

41 posted on 06/01/2012 11:21:10 AM PDT by Errant
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To: Mind Freed

I think a lot of you who replied missed the point of what I was trying to say.

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Or perhaps you worded your point poorly. Not sure how anyone can misinterpret your words: “More and more I find myself HOPING that God will come soon to end all of this.”


42 posted on 06/01/2012 11:24:20 AM PDT by dmz
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To: Mind Freed

A friend of mine came up with the best line I’ve heard in the last few months, and in his honor, I’ve elected to adopt it for my new tagline.

“This stuff is nothing compared to the Middle Ages”.


43 posted on 06/01/2012 11:29:29 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through is nothing compared to the Middle Ages.)
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To: Mind Freed

You should go read all of Ecclesiastes.


44 posted on 06/01/2012 11:37:40 AM PDT by red-dawg
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To: Mind Freed

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2014:26-27&version=KJV

John 14:26-27

King James Version (KJV)

26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.


45 posted on 06/01/2012 11:44:40 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Mind Freed
Give thanks in all circumstances, for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus. 1 Thessalonians 5:18

Having two sons

Children are a blessing from the Lord, thank God for them. Many people have no one.


Two sons grow in this society is also an alarming cause for scare

Thank God He gave you the wisdom and discernment to see the truth of the times we live in. If He gave you a mind and heart to see this, won't He give you what you need to teach your boys the truth. You are not like the sheep walking around ignorantly watching reality shows and adorning Hollywood, obama....


Our government is making decisions on when it's okay to kill a baby

Only 41% of the public believe abortion is ok. That number is down. We can vote in and out our political leaders. No one can force us to vote for someone who is pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage....Our God knows what is happening and is with us, to guide us and give us peace beyond understanding.


Our president is giving praise to a dictator

Our president will be held accountable to the God and the American people (those who care) for his actions.


The Green Lantern is now gay

The left is desperate and now is inventing gay super heroes. They are losing and know it.


There's been two cases of one man eating another man in the same week

There always have been despicable social-paths/psychopathic personalities we just did not hear about it. Man is fallen and some embrace satan and don't even know it.


We have children being raised in homosexual household

They will be held accountable, but we must pray their eyes are open to the truth of what they are doing.


Marriage is no longer a holy communion.

Man cannot destroy what God has created. Man will try to corrupt it, but he can't stop the holiness of it.


I'm at the point where I don't see a return; our society has lost all moral value.

If man is beyond the point of no return, Jesus will return. If not, they say people must hit rock bottom to repent. Turn your eyes to heaven to see the hand of God.


I think this has gone way past who our president is.

It's never about one man, it's about who we are as God's people and what we are called to do. Sounds like you have a calling.


This has reached a point of losing God in our country.

They can try to take God out of the public square, but they can't remove Him from our hearts. In fact, they say when a government tries this, they end up with a spiritual revival.


Getting rid of Obama (which would be a HUGE step) will not fix all of the country's problems. We need a spiritual revolution.

You hit the nail on the head. WE NEED A SPIRITUAL REVOLUTION. I use to think that getting the right person in office will help fix our country. No man can change the hearts of people, but God can use that man to change hearts. That is why many have been upset with not having a strong pro-life, pro-family....candidate. God appoints rulers & sometimes these rulers push us to God or can try to push God out. I fear romney will bring in false gods. So maybe, all that is happening is a blessing in disguise. We are only on earth maybe 100 years. We will be heaven or hell for eternity. God wants people to be right with Him. He will do whatever it takes to bring people to Him. (God is not willing that any should perish.)


 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14

I don't want to give up on our country, and as God fearing man, I can not give up on our country. Is there any hope left? Yes, but it all rests in God's hands.

Exactly. We trust in God, not ourselves because every man will fail us.

Remember: "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven" Matt 5:10

46 posted on 06/01/2012 11:58:59 AM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: Linda Frances

Now, that’s one fine post. Thank you for that!


47 posted on 06/01/2012 12:16:00 PM PDT by Nea Wood (When life gets too hard to stand, kneel.)
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To: Mind Freed

For many, many decades, the word HOPE has been a political code word that means “vote Democrat.”

Why? Because while it sounds positive, it’s actually one of the most destructively disempowering concepts in language. When one is “hoping,” one is impotent, one has surrendered power to wishing to be saved. And that is EXACTLY the state of mind Democrats want you to be in - craven, powerless wards of the state.

Stop “hoping.”

As Yoda says, “do, or do not - there is no try.” If you learn from everything you do, there is no failure. If you pray, you give yourself to God, and accept the response - that is not hoping, that’s doing. And when you’re done praying, go do what you have to do, whatever it is (even if that means resting).

Control your mind - or it will be controlled for you. THAT is the real battle.


48 posted on 06/01/2012 12:27:56 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Mind Freed

“Is there any hope left? Yes, but it all rests in God’s hands.”

That God will render His judgement is part of the hope that Christianity offers- that those who deserve His rewards receive them, and that those who deserve His wrath receive that.

From Revelations Chapter 7:
13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?

14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.

16 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.

17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.

Those of us who serve Him have nothing to fear- and those who choose not to will get their due also. Just remember to follow His ways and not those of man. Take comfort that our Lord knows what He is about, even when we don’t.


49 posted on 06/01/2012 3:26:54 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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